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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 20:15 GMT
#3121
Vote austin if you are unsure, dude is scum
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 20:39 GMT
#3135
On July 15 2013 05:35 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Vote austin if you are unsure, dude is scum
You're sure I'm scum. How do you feel about snb?


mislynch
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 20:40 GMT
#3136
either that or scum is bussing some one after we started discussing votes, thats always a possibility. Seems stupid but sure why not
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 20:42 GMT
#3139
On July 15 2013 05:41 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 05:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 15 2013 05:35 austinmcc wrote:
On July 15 2013 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Vote austin if you are unsure, dude is scum
You're sure I'm scum. How do you feel about snb?


mislynch
Why? Why do you read him as town?


I don't read him as town, I just don't trust these last second bandwagons especially the people that are on it. I was the first person to write a case on SnB or at least one of the first to draw suspicion on him, it's only then that people started coming out of the woodwork to throw shit at him. That's scummy.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 20:43 GMT
#3141
On July 15 2013 05:42 austinmcc wrote:
So he's either a mislynch (town) or scum bussing (scum). Congratulations, snb is almost certainly town or scum. What do you think he is and WHY?


sorry this game isn't as easy when I don't know who is town and who is scum like you do
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 20:50 GMT
#3145
I've said why. I dont trust a single person on SnB's list. Nobody, no one. Ace was my only town read from there and now with the stutters thing I don't trust anyone there.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 21:02 GMT
#3155
Austin are you trying to prove im town or something? Thanks I guess. Pretty much sums up my town play

I thought you were town until you mentioned the raiding thing, which makes zero sense


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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#3182
There are actually quite few lurkers now. The only people left that I would classify as lurkers are gumshoe, strongandbig, and CA
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 21:58 GMT
#3249
why does this look like another scum bus again, why the fuck would gumshoe just ninja vote randomly as scum other than to give his teammates a chance to gain some towncred? If he's town he isn't playing to his wincon so he's either gamethrowing or scum :/

I feel like the only outcome here is that they told gumshoe to do this so the rest of them could get cred.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 22:01 GMT
#3260
great gamethrowing. So done with this game
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 22:02 GMT
#3265
scum please kill me tonight, i am a tired and weary old man in this game

my new role is old man kenpachi
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 22:05 GMT
#3274
we can't win this game just like I said last night. Scum is more active than town I know this for a fact now. GGWP
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#3280
On July 15 2013 07:07 johnnywup wrote:
IT'S NOT OVER YET GUYS PLEASE STOP TALKING LIKE THAT


The game is balanced around everyone playing to their wincon. You can't win when town are actively sabotaging the game.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#3281
I just have no motivation to play after that, don't expect me to be that active anymore
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 15 2013 19:33 GMT
#3358
gonna have to agree with geript. Koshi is scum or just...wow. Pretty much disagree with that entire post he just made. I went through the list of people in this game and realize I dont trust a single person. Hard to narrow it down to a team of scum.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#3360
Oats is also a lot afk, but Oats is considered town, but I would like to see him more active. SnB is not putting enough time in this game, he could be scum very easily.

lol this is great. So popular opinion dictates Oats is town so I won't try to mislynch him, but SnB is scum for the same reason, and hey magically everyone is suspicious of him too!

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 15 2013 19:36 GMT
#3361
On July 16 2013 04:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As much as I love being confirmed town and not obligated to post anything useful, here are some rationales

Stutters All he's done is lurk and admit his role is to give fake nukes to people. As a towny, this role has questionable use other than trolling. He could give them to scummers but scummers already have silent nukes. So he could just give it to someone he thinks is a scummer and watch who he hits, learning who is town through multiple layers of WIFOM, enough to make the reads those nukes give questionable. If he gives them to towns, well that just hampers the town effort.

Note that a Cheap Chinese Nuke Manufacturer could be a blue role. You vig your townreads and hope that they can kill a scum or two with your nukes, but no guarantees the nukes work. A Toy Store has no benefit to town.

Chezinu I just don't like him. First he speaks in ways that make no sense to me and then he lurks for the second half of the game. His voting patters combined with general ninjavoting suggest to me, as well as spoilering his townreads, suggest to me that he doesn't actually want to push anything and can just settle for someone else pushing the wrong person and then piggybacking on that wagon.

strongandbig contributes nothing and is happy with contributing nothing.

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 23:26 strongandbig wrote:
Hi newbmen

I want to lynch vayne today. Or possibly Austin, or if someone writes a big case on someone else I'll consider it. I don't want to lynch ace yet but I guess I will actually have to look into his filter if people really want to go for him. Can someone summarize or make explicit the case on him?


Back when I was playing 5 games at the same time this guy would've been textbook scum to me, except then I learned that Vayne did exactly the same thing in Roulette and rolled town. Maybe he's lazy, just like me. So no, I don't think he's a scummer.


I contributed a lot to this game unlike roulette (except endgame where I sealed the victory with avoiding my mislynch)

I have written quite a lot on this game so no im not lazy at all here
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#3364
So here we go incase I get a courtesy deathwish - My final reads from this point out, we have enough information.

Koshi

Austinmcc

Chezinu

Majugarzett

Pretty sure there's 6 scum so I am unsure of the last one.

Somewhere between Alaskazam, Z-Boson, and Stutters I guess....maybe Johnny.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 15 2013 20:26 GMT
#3373
On July 16 2013 04:52 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 04:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
gonna have to agree with geript. Koshi is scum or just...wow. Pretty much disagree with that entire post he just made. I went through the list of people in this game and realize I dont trust a single person. Hard to narrow it down to a team of scum.

You don't trust anyone?


not really lets go through

koshi - dont agree with any of his opinions, seems like he's being told by some one else what to say as his reads and stuff are completely outdated and only fit a motive that is clearly not town; he is holding on to lynches on people that others want to but gives the same reason for other people being lynchable but since town is okay with them he is too!

Oatsmaster - generally way more involved than this, but he has defended town with his anti defenses and stuff...shrug mostly comes down to inactivity making me slightly weary. Once he got his towncred he checked out of the thread and that worries me.

Stutters - All this fake claiming nonsense, doesn't really help his cause

Z-Boson - Same as koshi, keeps ancient/outdated reads that look to serve some outside purpose. He's kind of flying under the radar too for the most which isn't condemning but is strange

Sentinel - OK I can maybe trust sentinel, thats about it.

Ace - Thought he was confirmed town until his connection to the whole stutters thing and his last second "im good with gumshoe" now not so sure.

Majugarzett - uh yea, about him. why is he still alive

Johnnywup - My first reads are usually good but I stayed away from him after he picked it up. As of late though I am suspicious due to paranoid reasons as since then he's gone completely under the radar.

Onegu - Immune one claim, hasn't done much shrug. no reason to trust him

Geript - Thought he was scummy by actions and posts but people keep throwing these ridiculous conspiracy theories at him that sound batshit insane if he was actually scum. Hard to tell whats going on there.

strongandbig - Thought he was suspicious then out of nowhere people start chiming in how he is super suspicious and almost gets lynched but then people switch to gumshoe last second. Hard to believe yourself when you got people coming out of nowhere to agree with you.

CA - lurker

Alakasam - complete nonsense filter, wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum

WaveofShadow - He seems to be town but then some of his posts really throw me off. Think he is town but another paranoid thing.

Chezinu - scum

Austin - scum
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 15 2013 21:40 GMT
#3407
On July 13 2013 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 07:00 s0Lstice wrote:
TARGET LOCKED IN. FINAL COUNT.

geript (0): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion

johnnywup (0): VayneAuthority, Xatalos, WaveofShadow, TanGeng, Abenson, OriginalName

Chezinu (2): raynepelikoneet, Onegu, Ace, TanGeng, Abenson, Xatalos,
raynpelikoneet, jampidampi, gumshoe

WaveofShadow (0): geript, johnnywup

Onegu (1): Nirvana.Gabo, MajuGarzett

austinmcc (0): Xatalos

raynepelikoneet (0): Alakaslam

Z-BosoN (0): Chezinu

Dandel Ion (8): johnnywup, WaveofShadow, OriginalName, Ace, VayneAuthority,
strongandbig, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam, Stutters695, Nirvana.Gabo

Nirvana.Gabo (1): Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, jampidampi

ghost_403 (0): Alakaslam, Chezinu

VayneAuthority (2): FirmTofu, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, FirmTofu, Chezinu

CaucasianAsian (1): geript, Z-BosoN

Oatsmaster (0): Chezinu

jampidampi (0): Chezinu

OriginalName (11): austinmcc, Chezinu, raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, FirmTofu,
Alakaslam, geript, ghost_403, Chezinu, geript, TanGeng, gumshoe, johnnywup, Onegu

Alakaslam (0): geript


TARGET: OriginalName has been obliterated!



alright so lets roll through this finally, just some food for thought.

On the ON lynch we have rayn, Xat, and Tang who flipped town. We also have Dandel/xig which flipped scum.

To switch the lynch, which is between Chezinu and dandel (which was a scum or scum lynch btw) austin comes in and drops a case on ON as things are looking dire. Chezinu immediately votes for it, when he could have just voted for dandel to save himself. After a few more town like rayn are on aboard, a firestorm of votes begins. Now that we know who is town in those votes...


First voter - Austin = scum.

second voter - Chezinu = scum.

third voter - Rayn = town.

fourth voter - dandel = scum.

fifth voter - Xat = town.

sixth voter - FirmTofu = town.

now where it gets interesting. Alaskazam votes for it then immediately goes back to a useless lynch, realizing that they don't need his vote and he does not want to be associated with this lynch.

Alaskazam = scum.

The remaining = Geript, ghost(Koshi), Gumshoe, Johnnywup, Onegu

Most of the scum have got to be here -_- doubt its the ones towards the end because there's no reason to vote onto a mislynch after its already secured.

Obviously I am wrong on some of these reads but lets really look into their motives here...


If this isn't explaining why I think chezinu is scum then I dont know what is.

How many lies of austin are you guys going to go let unnoticed, he will do anything in his long convoluted posts that nobody reads to sling shit when he writes things that are blatantly false. If he's town he is just as bad as gumshoe. dude isnt reading the fucking game.
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