EPTMZ: So Ace is supposedly a good scumplayer. And you are saying he is really easy to figure out as town when he is town. How the fuck does that make sense?
On Dandel: We are not lynching Dandel. He is most likely town.
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MZ: So Ace is supposedly a good scumplayer. And you are saying he is really easy to figure out as town when he is town. How the fuck does that make sense? On Dandel: We are not lynching Dandel. He is most likely town. | ||
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Xata, reasonable would be the word i would describe Ace atm. That certainly does not make him town and MZ is either scum or really wrong with his reasoning. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:38 austinmcc wrote: You asked if I could see Areason. You didn't ask for a good one. But he gave a reason, and that's what it was. As far as whether it's a good or bad reason, I don't care. His reasoning behind the nuke, IF THERE IS A NUKE, isn't telling on his alignment to me. I assume the fuel that powers that nuke's flight is fun, not scumhunting/fake scumhunting, and that it would be fun for either alignment of chez to fire off the "revenge" nuke. Well of course there always can be a reason. "Because i can". Anyways nuking Xatalos does not make any sense from town PoV and that's why Chezinu is scum. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Inactive Dandel is scum Dandel Apathetic Dandel is scum Dandel Let's not let him slide here. So Dandel, who is usually as town the most disruptive person (besides Oats) in thread tried a new scum-strategy? That's what you are trying to sell us? | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Read your post again slowly. I'll let you figure it out. No, you answer it. Are you seriously saying Dandel's answer in a large game like this as mafia is that he is going to be even more lurky / aphatic (as you put it) than usually as mafia, when it's really easy to mimic his town play as there is a lot of shit going on at every moment? | ||
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We are lynching into Chez/NG/WoS/ON/Maju today. That's my preferred order of their scumminess. Chez & NG are like totally scum. I'm off to bed. kthxbye. | ||
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On July 08 2013 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote: NG NG is scum. He says both WoS and vayne are scum then votes Onegu for being bad. then he gets into rayns face for NO Reason. This guys scum guys To expand on this, this set of quotes: On July 08 2013 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now you are making zero sense. Elaborate please. NG says he noticed Onegu's posts about Chezinu but not mine. Then he says he apparently did see my posts after all? When i ask him to clarify, he does not answer. scum. Chezinu: After the possible nuking period is over (in some hours), i expect you to give your clear reasoning for nuking Xatalos over anyone else in the game. If you do not give that, i will be lynching you until you die and i encourage everyone else to do so. Right now you are only flip-flopping around the question, saying "i am dead already" (lol, people take this at face value??). I don't care if you had to launch your nuke or not, i care about why Xatalos was in your opinion the best target of all the people. Oats i am not scum. Why do you think Johnny is scum? Alakasam is either scum or terribad. | ||
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On July 08 2013 16:54 geript wrote: This just in. FirmTofu is like confirmed town unless that was a completely constructed post. FirmTofu was confirmed town from his post where he talked about me. | ||
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But yeah, if we are not lynching Chezinu we are lynching NG. | ||
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On July 08 2013 16:59 geript wrote: I'll look back at that but I didn't remember and didn't have it down. On July 08 2013 04:54 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I've got plenty of time now and I've finally got my computer back. I have skimmed through the thread and I'd just like to point out a few things before posting my mega post(tm). Two main people have been targeted as lynches today. Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread. I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later. Scum QT has been talking about me, that's for sure, because at that point i had something like 3 pages of filter. Assuming that, FirmTofu's statement does not make sense from scum pov, because here are my town games: TL Mafia games: LoTR Mafia - town - bombed N5 (~2years ago, my first game ever) RED Team's Prize - town (third faction) - hit by prplhz N3 Ego Mini Mafia - town - survived, won, caught Oats Boardwalk Empire Mafia: PYP - town - hit N1 TL Mafia LXI - town - hit N2 Carnival Cruise Mafia - town - hit N1 Les Mafia - town - hit N1 Basterd mini mafia - town - hit N1 Based only on that list and my assumption about scum QT, do i come out as "relatively weak town member"? | ||
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"Carnival Cruise Mafia - town - hit N1" And no Ace, Vivax vigged vayne, scum hit me. | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:17 Oatsmaster wrote: rayn is weak, anyway I feel that cocky rayn is town rayn. Rayn is chez your top scumread? How do you even know i am weak? Do i need to be right on everything on D1 for you to consider me strong? About my reads: We are lynching into Chez/NG/WoS/ON/Maju today. That's my preferred order of their scumminess. Chez & NG are like totally scum. Yes, Chezinu at the top if he does not explain why Xata was the best target to nuke. If he gives a reasonable explanation, NG as close second. People who are town: geript, Dandel, vayne, FT, Abenson, Gumshoe, Xatalos, MZ (if he dies to nuke he is definitely gonna flip town), jampidampi (weak read),. Everyone else is null or null leaning scummy. | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:28 FirmTofu wrote: When I say "weak", I mean it's easy to find dirt on you to pursue a lynch off of. That doesn't make you a bad player by any means. You attract attention, good and bad, making you a prime target for the scum. Scum also probably generally find it easy to convince others to vote for you. I obviously haven't played in all the games you mentioned, but maybe you have witnessed this phenomenon in your own games. It remains to be seen whether this is how you should play, but so far I'd say it's been working. I am always under pressure as either alignment. That's how i work. I gather most of my reads based on how people interact with me and why do they do what they do. I don't care about pressure in case i have enough time to actually play the game. There is always going to be some strong town member who actually figures out why i do what i do in case i am not able to convince idiot!town. But sure as hell i am not an "easy mislynch" and that's why people are afraid to vote for me (in this particular game, scum). | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:30 FirmTofu wrote: Could you elaborate on why you think Vayne is town? If your read is weak, please have a look at my case against him and reconsider. This post of Vayne's... On July 08 2013 02:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Even if johnny does flip town, there's been a lot of decent discussion on it so it gives us a bit to work with as a day 1 lynch. Given how easy the bandwagon was, I would look at the people defending him for absolutely zero reason if he flips town. Scum tryin' to get dat town cred. On the same token we can also analyze the people that are saying one thing and lynching john on the other once the flip occurs. If he flips scum, then there's not much to say. Rayn is probably town if he flips scum for being just about the only person to defend him. .. is so surreal i don't see how he could possibly twist everything like this if he was mafia. Other than that he has been reasonable with his explanations and straight up proposing targets, more than many others in thread. | ||
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