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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 17:53 GMT
#2279
On July 12 2013 02:52 Xatalos wrote:
You mean that strongandbig's claim makes jampidampi more likely scum and thus MajuGarzett more likely town?

That is correct.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 17:55 GMT
#2280
I've got to run to class. Hopefully, town gets its head screwed on straight before I return.

LISTEN TO XATALOS
He knows what he is talking about. He is extremely likely to be town. He is playing in the best interest of town.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 18:49 GMT
#2295
I'm on my phone and reading the thread. Xatalos' logic is sound. Ace cannot be lynched today. Vayne is an excellent lynch. I'm going to try and vote him on my phone now.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#2304
I'm thinking he's claiming Kenpachi, but he could also be leaving room for a war protestor claim. I don't think this changes anything. Xatalos' logic is perfectly sound and this claim does nothing to refute it.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 19:00 GMT
#2307
geript, if you are town, you are playing against your alignment. How can you honestly say that jampidampi is the most likely to be town out of all the immune one claims?

I had a town read on you all game until now. Ugh.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 19:05 GMT
#2315
On July 12 2013 04:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:58 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm thinking he's claiming Kenpachi, but he could also be leaving room for a war protestor claim. I don't think this changes anything. Xatalos' logic is perfectly sound and this claim does nothing to refute it.


ok this is the first post you've made where I think you might actually be scum. He's town but who cares kill him anyway because another player is using a methodical approach instead of scumhunting?

What?

I never said you're town. Where are you getting this? Im saying your claim could just as easily come from scum as a fallback option and therefore changes nothing about my read on you.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 19:10 GMT
#2319
On July 12 2013 04:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote:
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Do Not Nuke Alakaslam Or Onegu


believes their claims when breadcrumbed

does not believe my claim when breadcrumbed, I am conveniently the guy he has been tunneling all game.

ERROR, HUGE CONTRADICTION IN MOTIVES

Firmtofu is scum.


Totally different situations. Alakaslam and Onegu specifically hinted to one specific role. They have multiple posts breadcrumbing their roles. I don't have a strong case on either one of them. I have a strong case on you. There is strong logic that indicates you are scum and/or that your lynch would tell us a lot about other people's roles.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 19:15 GMT
#2322
On July 12 2013 04:11 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 04:09 Xatalos wrote:
1) Are there other than Radiation nukes in the game?

Artanis: Yes

2) Is a plain "nuke" the same as a "Radiation nuke"?

Artanis: No

I even clearly tell of this fact on the thread for everyone to see:

On July 09 2013 00:30 Xatalos wrote:
Uh oh. I just got confirmation that there are other types of nukes than Radiation nukes - and a plain "nuke" is not the same thing as a "Radiation nuke". That means I have a good chance of dying, but also a good chance of gaining KP. Hmm. Well, I'm pretty sure that Meapak is town too, so maybe it would be better to protect him, Oatsmaster.


WHY THE HECK DID YOU DEFEND WITHOUT CONSULTING ME FIRST GERIPT????? ARE YOU SCUM AFTER ALL?????

Get off the high horse. No way in hell I make this play as scum. No way in hell I could even be scum this game. Way too active. I made the decision because I knew it wouldn't be popular but it's the right decision.

You still haven't explained why you made the assumption that all nukes are radiation nukes. Why are you getting all defensive? Justify your actions from a town perspective.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 19:18 GMT
#2326
Gotta put my phone away. Listen to Xatalos and Austin. They are speaking sense
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#2351
Hey out of class but still on phone. We need everyone that is on the Vayne wagon to get their asses on the jampidampi wagon now. We've only got 2 hours till lynch so this needs to happen ASAP.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 20:10 GMT
#2355
Anyone voting maju has to believe that there are at least 4 town-sided immune ones in the game. Do you seriously believe this?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#2360
On July 12 2013 05:10 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:10 FirmTofu wrote:
Anyone voting maju has to believe that there are at least 4 town-sided immune ones in the game. Do you seriously believe this?

why would i have to believe that in order to think he's scum?

Because voting maju means that you declare maju to be more scummy than the most scummy of the immune one claims (jampidampi).

By voting, you not only are making a statement on who is scummy, you are also making a statement on who you don't fin scummy.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 20:15 GMT
#2363
On July 12 2013 05:12 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:10 FirmTofu wrote:
Anyone voting maju has to believe that there are at least 4 town-sided immune ones in the game. Do you seriously believe this?
This is false, misleading, and in general theme with a lot of your recent posts. If you can, try to ignore all the claims and all the everything else and just scumhunt normally.

Maybe there are boatloads of immune ones, maybe there aren't. But we don't know which are town and which are scum, and nobody's claim magically makes them town or scum. We should not be using our second lynch of the game as some kind of speculative poke into a group of people claiming a role. We should be using it to lynch someone we think is scum.

Why is maju NOT scum?

I will get to this as soon as I get on a computer. Read my conversation with Xatalos for a few reasons why. I'm glad you're holding me accountable for this Austin.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 21:04 GMT
#2398
I think jampidampi wins the tiebreaker because I voted him before Vayne voted maju. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 21:10 GMT
#2409
For all those who believe XigXag is scum, how do you see his flip factoring into this whole debate of MG/jampidampi/Vayne?

Just curious to know before the flips so we can get an idea of where everyone stands.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#2413
On July 12 2013 06:10 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 06:03 Xatalos wrote:
On July 12 2013 05:41 geript wrote:
ok so Xat, let's talk about maju vs jampi.

Maju:
1. Both town/scum reasoning for launching nuke neutral
2. Both town/scum reasoning for nuke target (seeking approval for if it will land vs confirming for a solid target) neutral
3. Original points for voting Onegu are super weak scummy
4. Continues to attack Onegu for thinking Chezinu scum based on reasoning that quite possibly makes Chezinue scum -- makes no sense as town scummy
5. continued tunneling without any sort of progression on the read scummy
6. Out of the nowhere suspicion on Jampi scummy

Xat would you agree with this analysis of his filter?


2. Not sure what you mean here (?)
3. True, but I can't say that my original points against johnnywup were good either (pretty null IMO, slightly scummy at most)
4. I agree his stance on Onegu/Chezinu seems weird - first votes Onegu for pressure voting Chezinu, then starts saying that Chezinu hasn't yet given real answers (weird, maybe scummy)
5. Yeah can't say that he feels like figuring new stuff out this game (scummy)
6. Actually he never said he suspected jampidampi, he just obeyed what people (FT, me etc.) said - where did you get that he suddenly suspected jampidampi? (?)

@6 You don't fire a nuke at someone who you think is town.

Unless all nukes are radiation nukes and you are firing at an Immune One.

Haha jk geript
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 21:22 GMT
#2421
It's funny that maju has to get over here and save his own ass. Not sure if we can get anymore votes on jampidampi unless that happens.

#summon Chezinu
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 21:29 GMT
#2431
On July 12 2013 06:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Actually I just went back to I swear this is mini mafia and cross analyzed jampi there where he got mislynched day 1 and his play here is very different. I am fairly convinced he is scum now.

When he flipped town there he actually gave reasons for his scum/town reads and contributed to the thread before he died, here he is a lot angrier/slinging shit. He only came back to the thread once he realized he was saved by geript.

##unvote

##vote: Jampi

Holy shit what? I did not expect this out of you.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 21:31 GMT
#2435
On July 12 2013 06:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 06:29 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 12 2013 06:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Actually I just went back to I swear this is mini mafia and cross analyzed jampi there where he got mislynched day 1 and his play here is very different. I am fairly convinced he is scum now.

When he flipped town there he actually gave reasons for his scum/town reads and contributed to the thread before he died, here he is a lot angrier/slinging shit. He only came back to the thread once he realized he was saved by geript.

##unvote

##vote: Jampi

Holy shit what? I did not expect this out of you.

He agreed with you! You must now become best friends.

Yeah... I just moved him from scummy to null read. What is happening...
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 11 2013 21:40 GMT
#2446
These last few votes on Jampi reek of bus gasoline. We need to keep an eye on geript, Vayne, and Koshi even if jampidampi flips scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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