Pretty sure I'm not going to get lynched anytime soon. But still doubt that nuke came from Scum as I'm at least a suspect. I can see a Townie doing it to speed up the lynches, or 3rd party who just wants to kill everyone. Maybe this is the same person that fired an anonymous nuke at MZ and this is why they haven't claimed. Claiming a nuke on me right now would have resulted in them being looked at as slightly Town in my eyes. They are hiding for a reason.

Ace

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July 10 2013 22:46 GMT

#1980

Xatalos you're kinda hasty with the judgement. You shot that nuke didn't you?

Ace

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July 10 2013 23:16 GMT

#1985

just yesterday you were willing to believe the nuke came from scum after rayne's lie, and now you conveniently believe it came from 3p?

Also most everyone DID NOT assume rayne's plan was legit. Go back and read that day. You are stretching the truth of what actually happened.

Ace

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July 10 2013 23:17 GMT

#1986

wow another lie. I was focused on talking about policy?

Really?

Once again, go back and look at how we got into the no lynch thing. I NEVER said anything about no lynching. Look at who brought up that discussion when they questioned me.

Ace

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July 10 2013 23:24 GMT

#1988

Xalatos has been reading the thread. There is no way he could be that off base with how this game has been going. You can re-read those parts of the day yourself and see.

Like I said earlier, that is some hasty judgement. He somehow knew rayne was pulling a plan? fine. But to say "most everyone" knew it also? Thats bs. To say I was pushing no lynch policy discussion, as if it that is a scum trait, is dumb. Especially when I wasn't. He's been reading - he KNOWS that isn't how it happened.

Ace

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July 10 2013 23:40 GMT

#1990

me of course

and then Xalatos, DI/Xig/, Onegu for now.

Special moments:

The ON lynch, rayne's fake claim, and the early nukes Day 1.

Ace

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July 10 2013 23:51 GMT

#1992

oh and yes look at austin's posts about Oats

Ace

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July 11 2013 00:54 GMT

#2003

On July 11 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote:

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Maaaaan, how come your reads aren't my read. I don't like xatalos for mafia, and I don't really think Onegu is scum, based on the roles that make sense for him to be kind of sort of dancing around having.

Well I want Stutters to chime in on this too. I'm not calling Onegu scum, he was one of the guys I pointed out on the wagon earlier and I went through his filter. Lets see what Stutters comes up with.

also he is a notorious lurker. better give him as much stuff to contribute while he is around.

Ace

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July 11 2013 00:59 GMT

#2007

well it is the way it is. I'm also going to probably nuke someone before I die since I got a PM stating I received a nuke. Right now I want to target one of the lurkers. In the event you or Xalatos (if he is town) go down this will become a lurkfest.

Ace

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July 11 2013 01:04 GMT

#2010

he's pretty much Chezinu jr. If you can understand him good luck. I dont have a strong town read on him but I can't recall him doing anything that pops out to me as negative.

Ace

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July 11 2013 01:13 GMT

#2015

lol wow a gift from Oats! - if it works.

@geript: um...trust you to do what? I trust no one.

Ace

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July 11 2013 01:23 GMT

#2019

If he really stops a nuke heading my way why would I nuke him? Explain your entire thought process. If he is scum, that means he's stopped nukes heading towards me and MZ and both of us are Town. That is a wild dumb trade for Town cred.

Ace

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July 11 2013 01:30 GMT

#2025

oooo I see, it was on Xat.

Which would mean he stopped a nuke on his scum buddy if you believe Xat to be scum?

Also we don't know if Town does not have 2 anti-nukes. Some people believe hidden nukes can come from Town. Lets wait to see what the hosts post before doing anything.

Ace

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July 11 2013 01:44 GMT

#2027

Oats needs to speak up in any event.

Ace

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July 11 2013 14:03 GMT

#2170

On July 11 2013 17:55 FirmTofu wrote:

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I would just like to say that Ace's post claiming he "received" a nuke sounds like bullshit to me.

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Both OriginalName and Alakaslam have provided us with very similar roles that both state that they can give out nukes but only on night 2. Ace is saying he received a nuke on night 1. I find this highly unlikely. Ace is probably lying, making me believe he is scum.

Help me with this.

There are 2 roles that say they can produce nukes, and you do not know if Alasklam is Town. So you extrapolate that me having a nuke before night 2 = me being scum. There is no evidence that nukes can only be produced on Night 2. Whoever gave me the nuke can own up to it and solve this.

I've got 2 issues here with this;

1.) you knew this hours before this post and was active. You didn't claim this until jampi got nuked - why?

2.)Really? When did I say that?

Ace

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July 11 2013 14:11 GMT

#2171

On July 11 2013 21:18 jampidampi wrote:
Well, gumshoe was gone for a long time aswell and he has done jackshit. Why wasn't he considered for nuking?

because a few people threw your name around and you became a "popular" target. Like I said before it made sense to nuke a lurker.

I'm also starting to think our lack of knowledge about roles has led to some faulty assumptions that have people trying to act like they are scumhunting but bullshitting. There are some conclusions being skipped that just aren't possible.

people have told you they can spread radiation which would infect other targets. If you buy these people as pro-town, you should know they have potential anti-town powers. This should also logically follow that there may be Town players stealth nuking but not claiming. I also said I received a nuke but it's not determined if it came from Town/Scum/3P. Firmtofu automatically assumed I must be scum based off of two roles that can produce nukes Night 2. He does no analysis of these roles but instead assumes I'm lying about it and must be scum.

There is a lot of critical thought missing here.