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On July 14 2013 13:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 13:55 johnnywup wrote:
Oh shit, you're right. Fuck. Okay, in that case it's possible they're both townie but it just seems so likely that they aren't. It's possible though. Okay, going back to the plan I said a couple posts ago then. I've got an idea that we should lynch one that's not Maju/Stutters. If the nuke lands, we have a probably dead scum and another alive confirmed scum. If it doesn't land, we have a semi-confirmed townie and an alive probable scum. I'm not sure if this is better than lynching maju, because he's probably scum, but we'd get no info out of that. Stutters isn't black or white in that case. Anyone's thoughts? Stutters gave Ace the nuke on N1?
I thought D2, and no one d1
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To be honest my role was ambiguous, it says nothing about what radiation does.
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On July 14 2013 14:35 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 14:20 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 14 2013 14:15 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 14 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 14 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
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dud = shit that doesn't work no. You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless. compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch. What are you trying to hide? Where does it say it doesn't actually launch? It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud. Ok I will try to explain it You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes. You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless. Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL. see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread. Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever) You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct? I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy But if what you're saying is true then Stutters has lied about his claim. There is no town motivation I can think of for that which makes Stutters scum 100%. The first thing I thought of when I saw his few different roleclaims was that he was trying to make a play like rayn did, thats always a possibility. He could have been trying to fuck with Ace but now Ace is fucking with him. So you think it's possible that after being caught with the real roleclaim he THEN lied and is not a Toy Store. Alright I suppose I follow but that is some convoluted shit right there. There is certainly some 'really fucking unlikely' going on there, and I don't think it's on the same level as Roulette at all. What do you think the correct play is, Vayne? The correct play is to consult the hosts but since its a strictly closed setup the second best action is probably to leave it untouched right now and see what Maju flips or if he even flips at all. It should be something we talk about tomorrow not today
So you want to lynch MG and not see if the nuke hits?
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Because I didnt read the part where he says if he flips at all...
No I am town IO
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On July 14 2013 15:19 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 14:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
Lynching outside of the situation, not lynching MG. that is my stance Say Stutters?
No it should be austin or z-bosan, the whole point of letting the nuke fall is to see if stutters is lieing.
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On July 14 2013 17:12 MajuGarzett wrote:Once again I have to reiterate I am definitely not the best choice to lynch. This would be true even if there wasn't a chance I would die from a nuke. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 06:57 Xatalos wrote:
MajuGarzett
1) His first content-post is very... weak and careful, basically focusing to just doing something for the sake of doing something and staying off the radar
2) Same theme continues with his second content-post during D2... weak and careful, nothing decisive or new to the discussion
3) Lots of useless fluff that appears semi-contributive on first look
4) A vague show of "interest" to rayn's claim, then conveniently going away until the matter was more or less already resolved
That is basically the case against me and it really has nothing solidly scummy. Just some tendencies that can easily be explained by my inexperience with mafia. Geript shot down a nuke heading towards a player most people believed was scummy and neglected to use his power on much more townie people who were being nuked. Due to this he effectively caused an entire day of discussion to be wasted. It was the best thing that could happen for scum. Yet somehow there are 6 votes against me and only 1 against him. Xata advocated the lynch of austin just as much as mine and since then there has been further evidence against him while the case against me has remained stagnant. Despite this there is only one vote against him. CA has gone the majority of the game doing nothing on the excuse that he is drunk and new to the game. Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 20:11 CaucasianAsian wrote:Dinner went quicker than expected On July 09 2013 19:39 jampidampi wrote:I don't think rayn lauched the nuke. On July 07 2013 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Nuke: Xatalos If he had a nuke, why wouldn't it have been launched here? Unless the nuke could be launched only by a PM to the hosts, rays nuke should have been launched at Xata early D1. On July 07 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyone who has a nuke available nuke geript. He's scum. On July 07 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU ASAP! HE IS NUKING TOWN! ANTI-NUKE! WHATEVER!
plz On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-. Rayn calling for others to be nuked. If he had a nuke why wouldn't he nuke them himself? On July 07 2013 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jampidampi look at MZ and tell me what do you see. Here he's asking opinions on Meapak 10 min before mods confirmed the launch. If he's trying to get permission to fire the nuke or confirmation for his scumread wouldn't he wait until after the responses to fire the nuke? If he had already set his mind on nuking Meapak, why ask others for their opinion on Meapak? On July 07 2013 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 18:31 geript wrote:
@rayn... was that you? No it was not me. I think town should claim all their nukes so that we can tell for sure if there is an unclaimed nuke that's from scum. I don't see any downside doing so. Either way if this nuke to MZ is from town, please claim it whoever shot it. If nobody claims it probably means MZ is town, i was wrong, and mafia is trying to frame me. Rays first post after the launch. If there is no downside for claiming a silent nuke why wouldn't you claim it right then? The bolded is especially odd. If you launched the nuke, why would it pop in to your mind that scum are trying to frame you by nuking your scumread who is actually town? Is it possible that there is a required role where you must claim unclaimed nukes? If not, then maybe he just wanted to stir up some action. In either case, I am really interested in why WoS has a town read on Maepak. That type of post is exactly what I'm being suspected for yet no one cares when CA does it. I feel town has been very stubborn in advocating my lynch and has began to tunnel. Look at the evidence and I don't see how it is possible to think the case against me is stronger than any other. Add to this the fact that I might die from the nuke and lynching me becomes completely foolish. Johnny even just finished an analysis proving so which disregards the fact that there is only poor evidence against me. If people truly think I am scum, think of this nuke on me as a bonus. Its a regular day with a regular lynch plus an XX% chance (the accuracy of the nuke) of hitting scum. If you lynch me you completely waste the point of a nuke. It makes far more sense to vote for the actual scummiest person here and see if the nuke hits. If it doesn't hit, lynch me the next day and no lynch discussion has been wasted. Also if you lynch scum and the nuke hits and I'm scum you're definitely reducing their kp instead of killing one person and maybe reducing kp. So, no matter what you think of me, lynching me today is an awful decision. In my opinion right now I think Geript is the scummiest. That nuke shot based on an assumption that was obviously wrong that, if truly innocent, he put absolutely no effort into researching, wasted a days discussion and flew in the face of what others in the thread were trying to accomplish. ##Vote Geript
Wierd vote choice here, geript isnt getting lynched. I dont like what geript did and some of his positions but I dont see scum makeing big waves like that. This just makes me think you dont want to bus you scum buddy austin.
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On July 14 2013 17:01 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude. I'm Like always on top here. Y
Thats what she said.
Sorry couldnt help myself.
Alakaslam can you do some scumhunting please? I think you could be the fifth scum I dont like your lie, I dont like your votes, and I dont like your lack of doing anything. It is possible you are 3p survivor. As your actions make you unlikely to be lynched or NK.
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On July 14 2013 21:54 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 21:06 geript wrote:
A few things to note before I head off for D&D.
Maju has "magically" forgotten why he was suspected by many in the first place: who, how and why he chose to shoot his nuke. Xat's points on him are just gravy. I think the thing that proves Maju as scum for me is how he's approached why people think he's scum. He's taken Xat's point which are really the bread and butter for why he's a suspect but things that aren't at the core of the issue for why we're lynching him and only addresses though. Additionally, his post makes huge illogical leaps but not in any sort of illogical manner. When town loses their shit, they lose their shit baby and the bathwater. When scum "lose their shit" they have a distinct purpose in losing their shit so they don't lose they keep the bathwater while trying to toss the baby so that they look nuts. This is that exceptionally odd sense of the in between.
A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel.
About the nuke... I wanted to wait as long as I felt I could to address this but look at how Ace is handling the nuke he shot off. It seems very telling to me that Ace hasn't tried to move the lynch either. I don't think it's anything, but Ace who shot the nuke isn't even treating it as being real. Which I thought funny. I don't get the whole baby thing... that sounds creepy and crazy.. let me try and understand. Town will lose their shit aka brown, they will lose their baby = something very special, and bathwater which may or my not be brown depending on the time period of the bath taking. Scum tosses baby, once again very creepy. something precious... could it be nukes or votes? Exceptionally odd encryption indeed. What type of poetry is this?Now this, "A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel." makes some sense. Thank you for being the first person to answer my question that I asked twice.
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We shouldnt be lynching lurkers at this point, it really should be austin, z-bosan, or S&b as they have much more scummy posts and actions than a lurker.
Anyone not agree on z-bosan, he waffles so much haveing scum reads or votes on half the people in this game.
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Gumshoe ninja vote on stutters
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On July 14 2013 23:12 Koshi wrote:
There are too many targets... Sentinel can you make a good case on somebody? You are like the only confirmed town atm.
How is he confimed town he hasnt done much at all and it is possible his nuke was a bus nuke on dandel/xigzag.
@Sentinel how did you get a nuke and do you have more?
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Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe.
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On July 14 2013 23:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sent if you can you should nuke somebody else today to make our lynch options easier.
arent we past the 12hr now?
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On July 14 2013 23:26 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 23:20 Onegu wrote:
Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe. Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them. Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided. You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me?
At this point yes, first there is no way to confirm your claim. Second it is possible he is town and you are scum and can shut down factories, so seeing if the nuke lands gives us more info.
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On July 14 2013 23:34 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 23:31 Onegu wrote:On July 14 2013 23:26 austinmcc wrote:On July 14 2013 23:20 Onegu wrote:
Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe. Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them. Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided. You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me? At this point yes, first there is no way to confirm your claim. Second it is possible he is town and you are scum and can shut down factories, so seeing if the nuke lands gives us more info. Yes, it is possible. However, in that case, you need to account for the lack of silent nuke today. In the world where I am scum and stutters is town, you need to believe his claim, think I'm a scum war protestor, AND think that the silent nuke is being held...solely to get a lynch on stutters?
You are trying to read into a closed set up, maybe a total of 2 scum got 1 silent nuke each, or 1 scum got only 2 silent nukes. Or its 3p lauching silent nukes there is no way to know.
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We really need to agree on a lynch. I disagree with everything geript has done and suggested, but it seems almost to obvious for him to be scum.
Are ninja votes a scumtell?
I really prefer a austin lynch, with everything xata posted, plus I dont like his claim or his defense as there is no way we can or should read things into a closed setup. Unless someone claims to have shutdown a nuke maker, he should be the target since I cant get anyone on z-bosan.
Vote: Austin
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On July 14 2013 18:20 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 17:12 MajuGarzett wrote:Once again I have to reiterate I am definitely not the best choice to lynch. This would be true even if there wasn't a chance I would die from a nuke. On July 13 2013 06:57 Xatalos wrote:
MajuGarzett
1) His first content-post is very... weak and careful, basically focusing to just doing something for the sake of doing something and staying off the radar
2) Same theme continues with his second content-post during D2... weak and careful, nothing decisive or new to the discussion
3) Lots of useless fluff that appears semi-contributive on first look
4) A vague show of "interest" to rayn's claim, then conveniently going away until the matter was more or less already resolved
That is basically the case against me and it really has nothing solidly scummy. Just some tendencies that can easily be explained by my inexperience with mafia. Geript shot down a nuke heading towards a player most people believed was scummy and neglected to use his power on much more townie people who were being nuked. Due to this he effectively caused an entire day of discussion to be wasted. It was the best thing that could happen for scum. Yet somehow there are 6 votes against me and only 1 against him. Xata advocated the lynch of austin just as much as mine and since then there has been further evidence against him while the case against me has remained stagnant. Despite this there is only one vote against him. CA has gone the majority of the game doing nothing on the excuse that he is drunk and new to the game. On July 09 2013 20:11 CaucasianAsian wrote:Dinner went quicker than expected On July 09 2013 19:39 jampidampi wrote:I don't think rayn lauched the nuke. On July 07 2013 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Nuke: Xatalos If he had a nuke, why wouldn't it have been launched here? Unless the nuke could be launched only by a PM to the hosts, rays nuke should have been launched at Xata early D1. On July 07 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyone who has a nuke available nuke geript. He's scum. On July 07 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU ASAP! HE IS NUKING TOWN! ANTI-NUKE! WHATEVER!
plz On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-. Rayn calling for others to be nuked. If he had a nuke why wouldn't he nuke them himself? On July 07 2013 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jampidampi look at MZ and tell me what do you see. Here he's asking opinions on Meapak 10 min before mods confirmed the launch. If he's trying to get permission to fire the nuke or confirmation for his scumread wouldn't he wait until after the responses to fire the nuke? If he had already set his mind on nuking Meapak, why ask others for their opinion on Meapak? On July 07 2013 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 18:31 geript wrote:
@rayn... was that you? No it was not me. I think town should claim all their nukes so that we can tell for sure if there is an unclaimed nuke that's from scum. I don't see any downside doing so. Either way if this nuke to MZ is from town, please claim it whoever shot it. If nobody claims it probably means MZ is town, i was wrong, and mafia is trying to frame me. Rays first post after the launch. If there is no downside for claiming a silent nuke why wouldn't you claim it right then? The bolded is especially odd. If you launched the nuke, why would it pop in to your mind that scum are trying to frame you by nuking your scumread who is actually town? Is it possible that there is a required role where you must claim unclaimed nukes? If not, then maybe he just wanted to stir up some action. In either case, I am really interested in why WoS has a town read on Maepak. That type of post is exactly what I'm being suspected for yet no one cares when CA does it. I feel town has been very stubborn in advocating my lynch and has began to tunnel. Look at the evidence and I don't see how it is possible to think the case against me is stronger than any other. Add to this the fact that I might die from the nuke and lynching me becomes completely foolish. Johnny even just finished an analysis proving so which disregards the fact that there is only poor evidence against me. If people truly think I am scum, think of this nuke on me as a bonus. Its a regular day with a regular lynch plus an XX% chance (the accuracy of the nuke) of hitting scum. If you lynch me you completely waste the point of a nuke. It makes far more sense to vote for the actual scummiest person here and see if the nuke hits. If it doesn't hit, lynch me the next day and no lynch discussion has been wasted. Also if you lynch scum and the nuke hits and I'm scum you're definitely reducing their kp instead of killing one person and maybe reducing kp. So, no matter what you think of me, lynching me today is an awful decision. In my opinion right now I think Geript is the scummiest. That nuke shot based on an assumption that was obviously wrong that, if truly innocent, he put absolutely no effort into researching, wasted a days discussion and flew in the face of what others in the thread were trying to accomplish. ##Vote Geript Wierd vote choice here, geript isnt getting lynched. I dont like what geript did and some of his positions but I dont see scum makeing big waves like that. This just makes me think you dont want to bus you scum buddy austin.
Wierd timeing there stutters...
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Wait stutters why did you say you were voteing geript in thread but voteing MG?
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On July 15 2013 02:20 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 12:00 Onegu wrote:On July 13 2013 22:58 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 13 2013 13:00 Onegu wrote:On July 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 13 2013 12:29 geript wrote:On July 13 2013 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why weren't you pushing me before that?
Why didn't you make a case on me?
You limply left your vote on me until nearly the end of D1 for basically zero reason and then you jumped on board the ON fail-wagon.
I seem to remember you in one of our earlier games (I can't remember which it was, I looked) saying something about how you never pushed a read all game as scum. It's funny because this reminds me of that play. The endless early tunnel also reminds me of your scumplay in The Game, as I mentioned earlier. Have you gotten better overnight? No, you've gotten better over the course of quite a few scumgames that you've had.
Let's assume you ARE town right now, however. Let's also assume MG is being nuked and he is not on the table. Who is your scumread? I was pushing you before that. I never ended up casing you up because each time I tried there were people who I found to be more scummy and you had a mixed filter. Besides, on top of dick move analysis you just did patented WoS conspiracy theory so I really couldn't careless. Give me a second to read filters and update reads. I've been thinking about the kills last night and no one has talked about FT being NK'd which seems odd to me as this is his second? game afaik. I want to lynch MG instead of being nuked... besides him I need to look at austin, ace and a few others. At least one of Onegu/Alakaslam is scum. Maybe both. I'll explain more later. If you were town you'd care a hell of a lot more about me pushing you. Also Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ aren't alignment indicative. Did it in Les, did it in Basterd. I'll grant you the dick-move analysis but the weak as fuck suspicion I didn't like when you kept bringing it up for no apparent reason. I don't see any reason to drop a scumread you've had all game for one post. Makes no sense. Z-Boson, I could lynch you too so by all means, keep telling me who 'we're not lynching today.' I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him and like xata said he could be 3p, but to be honest I would like a nuke on MZ and a lynch on S&b or z-bosan This is the third time you mention you'd love to lynch me. While I'm flattered, what is stopping you from making a case on me? Also, why do you want to lynch me even if I'm null? Who are your top scumreads? So in thismgame you have had scum reads on Ace,, Austin, Alakaslam, WoS, Johnnywup, Rayne, Vayne, Koshi, and S&B, and maybe chezinu as you have a post about if anyone disagrees with him being scum. But your votes have been on CA for lurking, and Jamp for cookies So out of 25 people you have had scum reads on 10 of them and voted for 2 more, you are waffleing so much and barely contributing, you have had one good post on reads and the others are just basicly saying you feel someone is scum. VOTE  -BOSAN lolwut don't contribute? I contribute more than you. In fact, my earlier contribution put me back to null on you And now just because I baited you into voting for me you easily do so?? And your case is that I have had many scum reads, even though right now I have like 3-4? You're pathetic. Or scum. Have to see which.
You have had 10 (11 if you count me) scum reads but your votes havent been on one of your reads. And your actions after you list made me feel scum on you which I said.
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