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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:37 GMT
#294
Ace can you see why gumshoe is town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:40 GMT
#300
On July 07 2013 08:35 Ace wrote:
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On July 07 2013 08:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:28 Ace wrote:
This feels very familiar. Didn't rayne get lynched because people jumped the gun on him in Carnival Cruise?

Didn't read/play cruise. Explain similarities.


Rayne caught pressure in CCM early on even though imo he wasn't screwing shit up. I thought he got lynched but he got vigi'd by Vivax I think.
[/quote]
I have never got lynched, vigged or any other town-killed as town, and i won't.

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On July 07 2013 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ace, thoughts on geript/MZ/Xata and what i said?


I don't see what the big deal is. You asked geript what makes you scum, when he did you countered with a response on your play in Hydra 2. Seems legit to me.

1) You think Hydra 2 is a legit way to describe my scum-meta?
2) You think the first 20 minutes of the game (when it's clearly seen that mostly what i say are jokes) is comparable to the worst scumgame i have ever played?
3) Is the thought process valid, legit and all ok?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:43 GMT
#302
On July 07 2013 08:40 Ace wrote:
@rayne: I don't see why not. I dont have a scum read on anyone yet. Xatalos thinks you are trying to tie him and gumshoe together. I thought your beef was with geript. You suspect gumshoe though?

I don't, where do i say so?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:48 GMT
#308
On July 07 2013 08:44 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 08:05 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:47 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now you want to lynch me because of the first 20minutes into the game i decided to joke (mostly).

I think you're misunderstanding what I've been doing. I just wanted to skip past the mafia foreplay and get straight into the calling scum phase.

On July 07 2013 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see a town motive for not reading the thread. Do you?

So you're trying to soft call me scum for not reading the thread carefully in the first ~50 min. Isn't that a bit hypocritical

First part: I don't understand? Explain.

I'm on a time crunch before I have to work tonight and wanted to get past the jovial joking trolling foreplay phase of mafia and skip straight to the scumhunting/scumfucking part of it.

Second: What? That was about M_Z.

So write more clearly.

On July 07 2013 07:48 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is supertown.

explain. This is like the scummiest statement you've made so far.

Why?

You have a supertown read on a person who I consider to be completely null. I want you to explain that shit so that I can either A understand the read or B call you scum for having a town read on a completely null player. Capice.


Going back his first post is explain, then his second is why he wants the read. Sure he does put some soft scum reads in there, but I think the requests are clear and reasonable.

You are right. I misread that (or actually i took the accusative parts and missed the rest of his posts). My fault.

What do you think of M_Z not reading the thread at all and calling me out for defending WoS?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:50 GMT
#310
Ace, this post you mean?

On July 07 2013 08:40 Ace wrote:
@rayne: I don't see why not. I dont have a scum read on anyone yet. Xatalos thinks you are trying to tie him and gumshoe together. I thought your beef was with geript. You suspect gumshoe though?

I don't. I think gumshoe is supertown. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:51 GMT
#311
On July 07 2013 08:49 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:44 Onegu wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:05 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:47 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now you want to lynch me because of the first 20minutes into the game i decided to joke (mostly).

I think you're misunderstanding what I've been doing. I just wanted to skip past the mafia foreplay and get straight into the calling scum phase.

On July 07 2013 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see a town motive for not reading the thread. Do you?

So you're trying to soft call me scum for not reading the thread carefully in the first ~50 min. Isn't that a bit hypocritical

First part: I don't understand? Explain.

I'm on a time crunch before I have to work tonight and wanted to get past the jovial joking trolling foreplay phase of mafia and skip straight to the scumhunting/scumfucking part of it.

Second: What? That was about M_Z.

So write more clearly.

On July 07 2013 07:48 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is supertown.

explain. This is like the scummiest statement you've made so far.

Why?

You have a supertown read on a person who I consider to be completely null. I want you to explain that shit so that I can either A understand the read or B call you scum for having a town read on a completely null player. Capice.


Going back his first post is explain, then his second is why he wants the read. Sure he does put some soft scum reads in there, but I think the requests are clear and reasonable.

You are right. I misread that (or actually i took the accusative parts and missed the rest of his posts). My fault.

What do you think of M_Z not reading the thread at all and calling me out for defending WoS?


How does this change your read on geript?

Not sure yet, there is a lot of time. I'm off to bed soon (in like 1h), i'll reread him tonight or tomorrow if not possible tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:55 GMT
#315
Ace what do you think of Xatalos? Why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:58 GMT
#318
johnnywup, how much mafia have you played?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:58 GMT
#319
On July 07 2013 08:57 Ace wrote:
I think your posts are clear, he is confused by them. He seems genuinely lost.

atm town or scum and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2013 23:58 GMT
#320
don't give this wishy-washy shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:03 GMT
#324
On July 07 2013 09:00 Ace wrote:
You already know I don't give strong reads most of the time so don't act surprised.






I consider Xatalos town atm by the way


Actually Xatalos is almost definitely town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:05 GMT
#326
On July 07 2013 09:00 johnnywup wrote:
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On July 07 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnnywup, how much mafia have you played?

I've played like 3-5 games before this but I think they were like a year ago

Do you have anything that stands out as scummy in thread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#327
On July 07 2013 09:04 Xatalos wrote:
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On July 07 2013 08:56 johnnywup wrote:
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.


Who are you implying is scummy based on that?

(As a sidenote, how can there be no scumtells and yet be scummy activity at the same time........)

Bah, you are asking questions too straightforward.
You never catch scum with that on D1, use your imagination. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:13 GMT
#332
On July 07 2013 09:08 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:00 Ace wrote:
You already know I don't give strong reads most of the time so don't act surprised.






I consider Xatalos town atm by the way


Actually Xatalos is almost definitely town.


I'm happy you feel that way. Now, please clearly answer these two:

A) Why is gumshoe "supertown"?
B) What did your earlier post about me and gumshoe mean exactly?

a) i explained that in the very post
b) see a)

- If gumshoe was mafia and you town - why would gumshoe tell you, a town player, how to meta-read him better as he has claimed he is always a "wild card" who is unreadable?
- If gumshoe is town and you town - makes sense, you don't waste time on him if you believe him, and he is telling the truth
- If you are both mafia - why say that in thread? actually why would either of you enter that discussion (pointless) in thread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:14 GMT
#334
EBWOP: b) see a) and below
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:16 GMT
#336
On July 07 2013 09:11 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:04 Xatalos wrote:
On July 07 2013 08:56 johnnywup wrote:
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.


Who are you implying is scummy based on that?

(As a sidenote, how can there be no scumtells and yet be scummy activity at the same time........)

Bah, you are asking questions too straightforward.
You never catch scum with that on D1, use your imagination. :D


Whats wrong with asking for information to come to light, at the very least we get an insight into his thought process, by posting this you cover for JW and make it so he doesnt have to give his answer at all.

What's the point of this question as i asked basically the same thing (without revealing my intentions) than Xatalos did from JW?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:23 GMT
#341
Chez if you really had a nuke and launched it that was a fucking bad target.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:26 GMT
#344
On July 07 2013 09:22 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:08 Xatalos wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:00 Ace wrote:
You already know I don't give strong reads most of the time so don't act surprised.






I consider Xatalos town atm by the way


Actually Xatalos is almost definitely town.


I'm happy you feel that way. Now, please clearly answer these two:

A) Why is gumshoe "supertown"?
B) What did your earlier post about me and gumshoe mean exactly?

a) i explained that in the very post
b) see a)

- If gumshoe was mafia and you town - why would gumshoe tell you, a town player, how to meta-read him better as he has claimed he is always a "wild card" who is unreadable?
- If gumshoe is town and you town - makes sense, you don't waste time on him if you believe him, and he is telling the truth
- If you are both mafia - why say that in thread? actually why would either of you enter that discussion (pointless) in thread?


Ok, now I think I understand. You should have been clearer from the beginning. So basically both me and gumshoe are "supertown" for having that exchange..... Well, not sure if I agree with your logic, but at least there is a clear logic (the lack of which bothered me most until now).

Although why this then?

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On July 07 2013 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos:
There is a significant difference how people act as scum or as town.
I say X is town. Town players usually ask me to provide some evidence on that, and base their read on me based on that evidence. Scum say "you are scum, you can't have a townread on him based on anything".

geript is scum for that, are you?

No, you are town for nuking Chezinu. I am town and for what i posted pre-game and in my first post, i do not think any scum had balls to even fake-nuke Chezinu in case i really nuke them back.

gumshoe is town for his exchange with you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:27 GMT
#348
SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU ASAP! HE IS NUKING TOWN! ANTI-NUKE! WHATEVER!

plz
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 00:29 GMT
#354
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-.
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