Pages 1 and two of M_Z's filter. Rayn struck me as foolish and M_Z was pointing out things rayn was saying. Rayn wanted to lynch Chezinu really badly which I'm not ready to do.
When M_Z was talking about me it was a learning experience, so I posted real quick. Not realizing, of course, that M_Z dropped rayn in the same post XD
On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU! Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-.
Nobody listen to this.
This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash.
See I agree with M_Z. Directing town KP is like directing blue roles. A no-no. M_Z is pointing this out, but he could do that as scum too I realized later (very recently).
On July 07 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: - If gumshoe was mafia and you town - why would gumshoe tell you, a town player, how to meta-read him better as he has claimed he is always a "wild card" who is unreadable? - If gumshoe is town and you town - makes sense, you don't waste time on him if you believe him, and he is telling the truth - If you are both mafia - why say that in thread? actually why would either of you enter that discussion (pointless) in thread?
Here's my problem with this line of reasoning. Because meta is essentially worthless except for forming accusations or putting the icing on a nice big case, I don't think that talking about how to 'appropriately' determine someone's meta is pro-town or pro-scum. Scum can use it as a distration; town can use it to better give information and help solidify towniness. But it's not a way to get a town read imo.
Right now, I would be down for the following lynches. I will explain more about why tomorrow after d&d WaveofShadow Onegu Vayne austin caucasainasian
It's not in itself, but if someone (in this case Xatalos, who is likely to be town) says he can meta read gumshoe and is wrong about it (as gumshoe thinks), why would you correct that statement of Xatalos'? If you were mafia and Xatalos is town, why would you not let Xata have his wrong line of thinking that makes you look town to him if you know your scum meta is in fact different? What's the point of correcting him and possibly give him a reason to think you are mafia later on when you don't have to do that? That is my reasoning.
On July 07 2013 09:56 austinmcc wrote: The post-chez stuff is shitting up the thread but doing so in a very obvious and very...wrong way. If he's scum and just trying to get chez nuked, that seems silly AND is going to put a target on his head if chez were town (OMG CHEZ NUKED TOWN, NUKE CHEZ, OMG CHEZ WAS TOWN....NUKE ME?).
Therefore, I don't want to lynch him right now.
Does this make sense, MZ? If he were scum, he's either trying to sac chez for credit or he's trying to get someone to nuke town chez for nuking town xat. (Or both are scum and then rayn wouldn't be doing this probs, because he'd look bad/odd when xat flipped)
What, specifically, are you seeing in terms of him going from defensive --> shitting, and why does it give you a scumread?
This is a good question and i want it answered too. Because i have not been defensive and i have not been shitting the thread.
About Chezinu and his nuke:
If Chezinu is town: - Nuke is real: Why would you nuke a player who is most likely town? If you think he is mafia, why would you not give reasons for your nuke? - Nuke is a dud or smth: Why would you nuke a player who is most likely town? Best case scenario is that nothing happens at the deadline, worst case scenario is town uses anti-nuke or something to stop the nuke, Chezinu get's lynched.
Chezinu is crazy, but he is not stupid. Therefore i do not see a reason for him to nuke a player i see most likely to be town at this point. This also is Chezinu's nuke. If mafia used Chez's post as a cover to launch a silent nuke, he would have said that's the case already.
If Chezinu is mafia: - Nuke is real and Chezinu launched it: Makes people go "no you can't be mafia for nuking at this point" like you all are. Townie dies. Profit! - Nuke is real and Chezinu's scumbuddy launched it: What i said before, but even better. If you get lynched for it, you don't lose the guy who is nuking. Double profit! - Nuke is a dud or smth: Make town to possibly waste anti-nuke or something to stop the "nuke".
There are a lot of upsides in launching a nuke at this point for mafia. If Xatalos is mafia, launcing a dud nuke on your scumbuddy is brilliant. Regardless of Xatalos' affiliation you confuse the thread. There is zero benefit launching a nuke as town, even if you believed that Xatalos is mafia, all you can do is possibly fuck up town's play and sidetrack us to talk about something that is not relevant at all.
Unless Chezinu outs his reasoning for nuking Xatalos, i'm keeping my vote on him. And no, insanity is not a reason. If Chezinu was Drazerk i could buy that, but he is not. He is a smart guy who is in some twisted way good at this shit.
If someone disagrees with me, tell me where i am wrong.
This was pretty good justification for the Chezinu "tunnel", so suspicion promptly dropped.
Two posts above yours, and his activity asking questions. But mostly, two posts above yours.
Was good enough for me. Glad your activity is spiking.
No comment on your 17% bs, reading this game you should know there is 10x more fluff than is desirable. I am watching you too, and I'll say it for you: OMGIS!!!
On July 08 2013 10:23 Ace wrote: I dont think it really matters if NG is a smurf anyway. Could be someone who has lurked and read a lot of games like Alakaslam.
Compare how NG writes to Alakaslam. NG has initmate knowledge of playstyles and games, Alakaslam (no offense) reads the games and tries to look like a vet by trying to get in on in-jokes and name-dropping. No comparison.
None taken XD truth aids town.
By the way, I have read Aperture Mafia and a little of Basterd and of course the last few newbies, so this just brought me back to earth from being over the moon with Ace's post :p
Catchin' up, you guys were really posting it up while I was gone
On July 08 2013 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote: NG NG is scum. He says both WoS and vayne are scum then votes Onegu for being bad. then he gets into rayns face for NO Reason. This guys scum guys
On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me?
I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours.
Ahh so you don't read the whole thread and just vote reactionary? Is this the behaviour you are going to follow the whole game?
I didn't say I didn't read your posts noob
Now you are making zero sense. Elaborate please.
NG says he noticed Onegu's posts about Chezinu but not mine. Then he says he apparently did see my posts after all? When i ask him to clarify, he does not answer. scum.
Chezinu: After the possible nuking period is over (in some hours), i expect you to give your clear reasoning for nuking Xatalos over anyone else in the game. If you do not give that, i will be lynching you until you die and i encourage everyone else to do so. Right now you are only flip-flopping around the question, saying "i am dead already" (lol, people take this at face value??). I don't care if you had to launch your nuke or not, i care about why Xatalos was in your opinion the best target of all the people.
Oats i am not scum. Why do you think Johnny is scum?
On July 08 2013 16:06 Alakaslam wrote: Where are you caucaisianasian? It's midnight and I don't got all night.
Like what WoS has been doing. Town. SHOW ME YOUR ENE- oh wait, У меня нет никакой власти...
I did tryhard at referencing the greats last game. That is a part of me, so:
Chezinu is reminding me of Drazerk in Aperture. I remember thinking his lynch that game was really disappointing.
I am thinking best lynch Ghost403.
So I will vote him.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
Pressure the lurker folks.
Wait so you are just going to put your vote down on someone lurking for a policy lynch?
You give no reason for doing so you just fish for thoughts on it. Here is my thought you just voted random one of the lurkers for absolutly no reason. Why him and not dandol or anyone else for that reason?
Reason for not going dandel ion is that he actually gave a so-called reason, but he is actually my next choice. After him, stutters.
On July 08 2013 16:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: That's a mean thing to say about chez alakaslam...
Also it'd be Чезину
What? How? Who said he was obtuse, did you watch the video?
Нет я не посмотрил, но вам надо знать что Чезину знает русский язык.
Why would Чезину know how to speak multiple languages?
Heheh.
Well, my butchering is не со злым умыслом, за ним, но you (M_Z) are right, irl I have no idea what I say and Chezinu very likely does.
Sigh.... Really chez, <3<3<3. But I guess I will need to post a heck of a lot less while I ask my cousin how to say, and then how to write grammatically :D
Oh whoops sorry Geript... Most of what I said in Russian was and only ever need be side notes, so no obligation to read them. Except where I allied with Chezinu. And said I think Ace should lift his vote.
On July 08 2013 11:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Ok interesting. So apparently chezinu is saying his role gives him like a hot potato nuke that keeps bouncing around that you have to send at some one else? That's a pretty interesting mechanic and I really doubt he is scum now after giving us some content. People should consolidate on Dandel or Onegu if they dont like my johnny lynch.
Holy banana-butthole, did anyone catch this?
Why would Vayne... 1) ...automatically believe Chez when Chez explains what his role is. 2) ...confirm Chez as a town-read because Chez explained his role mechanics. 3) ...consider an "interesting mechanic" to be "content"
We need to lynch this guy ASAP.
FirmTofu, not only do my gut and meta get working here, but your cases and this fact are changing things.
EPT
