|
On July 09 2013 02:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 02:15 Ace wrote:On July 09 2013 02:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote: That was a stupid decision WoS. regardless, the pool of people scum has to kill tonight because they are pretty obviously town is getting larger. People who thought WoS might have been scum should probably drop that now. I'm thinking a town motivated WoS would nuke someone that is refusing to post. Hitting NG was the popular move based on thread sentiment that was just bs. Except that I mentioned earlier that I'd rather not lurker lynch today since the pool was so large and I didn't know what my odds were. Why u flingin' shit, Ace?
I think nuking NG was a convenient move. I'm not flinging shit. But w/e, since you are voting Dandel anyway I'm going to drop it.
|
Wos just to clarify: your policy is not to lynch lurkers, but to nuke them instead?
|
On July 09 2013 02:25 Z-BosoN wrote: Ace, how is "not calling you "probably town" taking things way too far?
I was talking about your comment saying I was defending rayne. Before you said it was a soft defense, now you make it seem as if I was there stopping him from getting votes. He was fine on his own.
|
On July 09 2013 02:31 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 02:09 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:On July 09 2013 02:05 TanGeng wrote:Nirvana.Gabo, since you are role claiming. Perhaps you can do so in more convincing fashion. You are Xi Jinping, the Chinese Prime Minister! You've created a nuke.
See that. That's me. I really can't be bothered to conform to some standard of how my role should be claimed. something like what you've quoted takes zero effort to fake. Here, I'll show you. You are Dèng Xiǎopíng, leader of China who modernized the country and moved it towards a market economy! Inheriting a country fraught with social and institutional woes resulting from the Cultural Revolution and other mass political movements of the Mao era, you led a new synthesis of the Chinese ethic with market reforms and socialism. You are generally credited with developing China into one of the fastest-growing economies in the world and lifting hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty. Once per night, you may heal one player. That player will be protected from one KP. Your protection will not help against Nukes.
I'm sorry. I just find Medic/Doctor claims harder to believe. It's very convenient scum claim because of how the ability works.
he isn't getting lynched, he's getting nuked. Fake claiming now serves him no purpose since he is guaranteed to die. Unless he was hoping to get anti-nuked and he hasn't been begging for one. Take the claim at face value.
|
On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas.
I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that.
|
NG what are your strongest reads, or at least the ones with the most solid reasoning.
|
On July 09 2013 02:38 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 02:33 Ace wrote:On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote: That was a stupid decision WoS. Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas. I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that. Lynching someone who was going to die anyways = no-lynch. It's simple logic. How can you refute that?
It is not a no lynch. Read what I said again. If we can't come to a consensus - vote on the person getting nuked.
Here is a question. If I'm advocating a No lynch who was I trying to save from dying?
|
Look at who was leading when I posted that. Dandel didn't have many votes, and Chezinu was leading. I then voted from Chezinu to Dandel.
Why would I be trying to save the people I'm voting for? :/
|
On July 09 2013 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 02:43 Xatalos wrote:On July 09 2013 02:40 Ace wrote:On July 09 2013 02:38 Xatalos wrote:On July 09 2013 02:33 Ace wrote:On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote: That was a stupid decision WoS. Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas. I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that. Lynching someone who was going to die anyways = no-lynch. It's simple logic. How can you refute that? It is not a no lynch. Read what I said again. If we can't come to a consensus - vote on the person getting nuked. Here is a question. If I'm advocating a No lynch who was I trying to save from dying? Chezinu? Dandel Ion? They seem to be somewhat even atm so it's possible that you're scum with one of them and wanted to ensure that nobody got lynched. That seems pretty unlikely to me really. Ace appears to believe what he's saying; what I don't really get is why he felt so strongly about it.
Lots of lurkish behavior this game and in plurality lynch people can get killed off with low vote counts. I don't want that to happen so we can do vote analysis.
|
On July 09 2013 02:55 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 02:48 Ace wrote: Look at who was leading when I posted that. Dandel didn't have many votes, and Chezinu was leading. I then voted from Chezinu to Dandel.
Why would I be trying to save the people I'm voting for? :/ Hmm. Well, I guess that's not such a likely scenario (I'd put it in the same category as scum launching a fake nuke at scum Meapak). I don't know why town Ace would advocate a no-lynch even instead of a random lurker though. Why is that your FIRST thought is to advice no-lynching if we can't get a clear consensus? Shouldn't you be pushing your own opinion right now instead of waiting for a consensus or softly pushing a no-lynch? It feels overall scummy.
read my reply to WoS.
I am pushing my own opinions btw and I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. When I say consensus, I don't mean everyone waiting to discuss stuff and sheep each other. I mean consensus via vote count so we have legit wagons to analyze. Not people dying with 3 votes on them in a 20+ player game.
|
@Boson: what was the actual case for Austin?
|
I was actually going to suggest rayne for lynch tomorrow since he was instrumental in turning the DI lynch around. ON was here defending himself and still kept getting votes, while DI disappeared.
Now rayne admits to nuking MZ. I think this is actually a far worse offense than the DI thing since I didn't see him with any prior suspicions on MZ. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
|
On July 09 2013 10:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Guys. Why would scum rayn claim a nuke that hit town?
I dont know. But why ignore how ON got lynched? Taken together dont you think MZ's points + that = rayne likely scum?
|
Ok Oats. Let's assume there is a null tell on DI right now.
There is a concerted effort to flip the lynch onto ON right before deadline once DI shows up to defend himself.
ON puts up a defense also, but people say the way he claimed is scummy. Before this votes weren't moving off of him.
If DI isn't scum then something scummy happened with that wagon. Ignoring ON's flip do you think it was a legit lynch?
|
On July 09 2013 11:02 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 10:59 Ace wrote: I was actually going to suggest rayne for lynch tomorrow since he was instrumental in turning the DI lynch around. ON was here defending himself and still kept getting votes, while DI disappeared.
Now rayne admits to nuking MZ. I think this is actually a far worse offense than the DI thing since I didn't see him with any prior suspicions on MZ. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Hardcore second on this Ace, and I check with you: would reading bastered be useful in the sense oats gives or a waste of my time here? Should I rather be filtersurfing NWM?
I dont read other games to figure people.
|
On July 09 2013 11:05 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 11:01 Ace wrote:On July 09 2013 10:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Guys. Why would scum rayn claim a nuke that hit town?
I dont know. But why ignore how ON got lynched? Taken together dont you think MZ's points + that = rayne likely scum? What. Is it more likely that town claim a nuke that didnt need to be claimed or scum claiming it?
who knows??? You think rayne has town motivation for both of the things that happened today?
|
Vayne you think Dandel + rayne are scum buddies?
|
legit = town pushed wagon
|
|
Read my first post if you missed it but I'll go into it again.
rayne was instrumental in turning the DI wagon into an ON lynch. We dont know if DI is scum yet, but that was a fishy last few moments before the lynch went down. ON was around defending himself. The only thing I see that was an argument against him was the way he roleclaimed. Votes weren't moving off of him either way. People really weren't listening to him,
The second issue is what MZ brought up with rayne lying.
These are two separate instances of rayne doing things that are not Town motivated.
|
|
|
|