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On July 09 2013 22:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
We should probably give this rayn thing a rest for a bit as its killing discussion before the night post. People that have a chance to die should really throw out some reads/cases before they are gone.
I really need people's opinions on these three men, as I think they are all scum.
gumshoe, ghost, onegu
They don't have time to post anything meaningful in the thread but are able to show up last second and ninjavote for ON? Especially gumshoe who I know is much more capable than this.
VA jumping in the middle of a meaningful interesting discussion to tell everyone to stop it and spout some nonsense about random lurkers. He scum yo
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On July 09 2013 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 22:06 Ace wrote:
@jampidampi: Ok I'm going to go with your assumption.
Here's my new thought process.
Rayne does not have nukes. Period. His fake ##nuke Xalatos confirms this.
stuff happens, rayne claims he launched the nuke on MZ. If rayne is Town why would he claim this?
Rayne must assume that the nuke came from Scum. Hence his read on MZ being Town. MZ later flips out when he notices this contradiction.
rayne says he was setting up a gambit to catch scum here.
If this is the way you see it, then I must ask - how would he know the nuke came from scum? You can't possibly be this stupid. If the nuke was from a townie they would have CC'd me. That was another reason fopr fakeclaiming the nuke. It's sure from scum now.
This is actually stupid as fuck.
Not sure about the rest of the plan but what was your goal? To make the town secret dayvig counterclaim you so you could get one or both of you lynched?
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Okay so here's my take on the gambit.
I'm inclined to believe rayne is telling the truth and got lucky as fuck that no townie counterclaimed him. Given his previous posts there was no way he claims the nuke and does not get lynched.
I'm not sure about Ryan's attempts to draw townreads on some of the people he does though, because questioning "dude wtf" or "you are a liar and/or retard" are both easy for either alignment to do.
I agree that Austin's reaction looks pretty bad though, regarding the "not talking about the claim" thing. Iirc his argument last page was something like "other people were talking about it already so why would I need to to" but that's not how mafia works bro you have to talk about the talk so people can read what you say.
Also Austin regarding your stuff this page about how scum would want to jump on a liar for lying and get a townie lynched, the thing is that the scum can't attack the lying townie for lying because the only way they would know he was lying is because they are scum, that argument absolutely doesn't work.
However, I disagree with Ryan that axe is scum. First, his filter from day 1 gives me a townie feeling and god knows I never get that from ace. More specifically, he doesn't seem to be pushing a specific scum agenda like I know he does as scum. Regarding the recent stuff that Ryan is basing his attack on, I think if ace was scum he would just pull his classic "fuck off you can't get me lunched" defense rather than actually engage here. It is weird that he still says rayne launched the nuke despite the evidence jampidampi collected but I think that might be more of a case of ace not liking to be wrong。
Other stuff: I think va is scum, most of my few posts have mentioned it and well see where that goes tomorrow.
Dandelion I also think is scum. He just obviously doesn't give a shit; he could post now even if he was following his fake "not posting at day" policy, plus reading the on switch made me feel like if di was town then a last minute switch with so many people wouldn't have gotten anywhere.
Also I still wonder About oatsmaster and the nuke deflection, that makes me suspicious of him so ill look into his filter more tmo possibly. Especially if if looks like we aren't gonna lynch vane or di.
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Austin what do you think about vayne, if you're town I want to know your read and of you're scum I want to be able to do connection analysis
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DI and VA would be good targets for anyone with mandatory nukes.
Assuming neither if them do get nuked I'm not sure who to lynch.
If they both do, I want people to think about oatsmaster and qustinmcc.
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On July 10 2013 07:07 johnnywup wrote:
Okay that was somewhat predictable but I am surprised that xata survived.
Why? Did I miss something and he's confirmed town now?
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On July 10 2013 07:50 Ace wrote:
Get your vote off of me Xata. I was wrong about rayne being scum, but still right that his reasoning was flawed. His role confirms that he was lying about the nuke. But we're passed that now.
First order of business is Dandel. Above all else we're getting rid of him today.
##vote Dandel Ion
Noooo ace don't make me a liar
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Hi newbmen
I want to lynch vayne today. Or possibly Austin, or if someone writes a big case on someone else I'll consider it. I don't want to lynch ace yet but I guess I will actually have to look into his filter if people really want to go for him. Can someone summarize or make explicit the case on him?
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On July 11 2013 20:51 Onegu wrote:
So there are 3 immune ones in the game?
four, at least
also im voting va
##vote: vayneauthority
i think hes had a bunch of scummy behaviors so id rather lynch him.
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On July 12 2013 02:28 FirmTofu wrote:
@strongandbig
If you are gonna claim, then claim. Don't fucking soft-claim and let everyone talk about it for 2 hours before you come out and own up to it. Fuck.
how is that soft
derpburgler
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fucking hell geript
dip-shit
there are clearly anonymous scum nukes targeting strong town players if you have a town defense why in the hell would you not save it to stop the anonymous scum nukes on townies.
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On July 12 2013 02:37 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:35 strongandbig wrote:On July 12 2013 02:28 FirmTofu wrote:
@strongandbig
If you are gonna claim, then claim. Don't fucking soft-claim and let everyone talk about it for 2 hours before you come out and own up to it. Fuck. how is that soft derpburgler Ok, let me make this easy for you. Is your role the Immune One?
D3RP
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On July 12 2013 02:43 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:39 austinmcc wrote:On July 12 2013 02:26 geript wrote:On July 12 2013 02:21 austinmcc wrote:
Read through, not entirely processed.
I don't think someone being immune one = them being town. I actually thought Onegu was crumbing some kind of radiation medic, he seemed to know how radiation worked, how it killed, but claimed no nuke. That role seemed very townie to me.
For no raisin, I'm assuming that with some of these roles that exist in multiples, some of there were assigned to scum. But if we start seeing 3 people claiming 48-hour unstable nukes, immune ones, defense grids, etc. then I think it's ALMOST a listcheck saying someone in that bunch is scum. Immune one a perfectly fine mafia role tbh, if they have any radiation nukes they can drop em on townies OR on a known immune one and use it as extra KP from thereon out, irradiating people.
As best as I can tell...Ace is not nuked anymore, and was given a nuke by an unknown. Maju had a nuke, and used it on jampi? He did not claim it until recently, and did not say whether he has had it the whole time or how it came into being? And also...sentinel nuked DI/XigXag, but did not claim from whence his nuke came? Is that...the nuking story as it sits right now? You people make me sad.... but I like this post. I had the idea of a using the roles as a listcheck, but I'm pretty sure artanis is a bastard host so it wouldn't be that worthwhile. Talk to sleeping austin and working austin about that. Lotta stuff went down in a small period of time. I don't care whether artanis is a bastard host or not, some of these roles most certainly exist on both sides (or people are just fake claiming). For instance, in game where ZERO people have claimed radiation nukes, we have 3-4 people claiming immune one. I read that as some people fake claiming, and an indicator that radiation nukes are a scum (possibly 3P) mechanic. OP also has to go and say "many types of nukes," which may or may not be artanis getting cheeky, but indicates that there should be more than just nukes and radiation nukes. I dunno, I found jampidampi's response to rayn's stuff very scummy. I haven't gone back over all this recent maju stuff, but ... I don't think I'd save him if it were me. Don't believe we've got 4 town immune ones, although maybe 1/2 the thread dies of radiation poisoning tonight and we realize it's a bigger mechanic than we thought. I agree. People are lying about the Immune One claim and we need to address some of these claims. We can't just run around confirming all these people because they claim. I think jampidampi has the weakest claim and SnB comes up at a close second for worst claim. The only reason I'm a little hesitant to say SnB is lying is because he really had no reason to claim if he was scum. It unnecessarily draws attention to himself.
bee tee dubs if youre doubting my claim then lo0ok at my posts about gumshoe, i knew there were roles that got power from being nuked before anyone claimed having one
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i want to kill vayne
all game his posts have been sounding scummy to me
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Okay now that dandel flipped scum I'm temporarily off va, I think there must be fruit to be picked in the on switch list
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@tofu ace launched it too late apparwntly
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First, there's gumshoe - hasn't posted since night 1, afaik didn't vote in day2 lynch, last minute voted on without any commenting in the thread. Don't think it's like him just to vanish although I don't know him that well.
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mafia did redirect the wagon
to originalname
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ace had a nuke and is ace, but doesn't get nightkilled
starting to get into why are you still alive territory here
unless stutters is scum and they knew the nuke was fake ofc
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also the two towniest mofos in the thread have both left last wills saying "lynch austinmcc"
just wanted to point that out
i think the on last minute switch was led by scum and scum would've needed someone organizing that
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