EPTOn July 07 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU ASAP! HE IS NUKING TOWN! ANTI-NUKE! WHATEVER!
plz
SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU ASAP! HE IS NUKING TOWN! ANTI-NUKE! WHATEVER!
plz
This is horrible.
I'm starting to think you really are scum lol
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This is horrible. I'm starting to think you really are scum lol | ||
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On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU! Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-. Nobody listen to this. This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash. | ||
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On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town. Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe. You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Chezinu Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game. You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus. I'd be down a for a rayn lynch. Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here. | ||
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Still feel better about rayn but I'll give the last few pages a reread. | ||
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On July 08 2013 02:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Elaborate, MZ. I had wanted to play this game for longer than a day. | ||
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On July 08 2013 02:37 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh right you were nuked. Since people seemed to advocate not freaking out trying to save Xat, what do you think people should do regarding yoiu? Well I'm dead and there's no obvious killer. There's and outside chance this is oatsmaster's nuke and it was redirected to me but idk how likely it is. I'm still very much an advocate of not freaking out which people have done so that's good I'm gonna do a mega list of reads on everyone who's posted so that when I flip people will have that to work off of. I'm just incredibly pissed :/ | ||
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Dandel: Made a statement about afking through the day phase and has thus far followed through with it. His play is very different from town Dandel and I would not at all be opposed to seeing him lynched. Verdict: Possible Scum Ghost_403: No posts Verdict: Someone vigi his ass Oatsmaster: his only post thus far has been nuking johnnywup. He really needs to post more because right now he really leaves a lot to be desired… especially since I’m not ruling out his nuke being the one that’s aimed at me. Verdict: Null Stutters695: Two posts, one saying he’s awake and the other saying he’s reading the thread. Would love to know what information he gleaned from his read through. Verdict: Null Z-Boson: No posts Verdict: Someone vigi his ass Abenson: Two posts, one talking about how shitty the thread is and one speculating on the setup. Verdict: Possible Scum Meapak: Fantastic posts, truly enlightening filter, someone every mafia play should aspire to. Verdict: Towniest Townie who ever Towned Ace: decent posts, isn’t reading the thread very well, but most definitely isn’t scum for easily noticeable meta reasons. Seriously if you doubt me on this one just go look at any Ace scum game ever and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Verdict: Probably Town MajuGarzett: Two utterly worthless question posts. Verdict Possible Scum Johnnywup: Really not as bad as people kept making him out to be. Sure his entrance post wasn’t good but he’s obviously trying and does not seem defensive or inherently guilty. He just looks like any regular noob player who rolled town. Verdict: Probable Town Onegu: See this is a point in which I wish this was a PM game because I’d love to organize some pressure against this dude to see how he reacts. His posts have a very vague feel to them but there’s nothing there yet that I would call definitively scummy. I guess the best I can do is keep an eye on him and see what happens: Verdict: Null Geript: I’m eager to see his reasoning behind the list of people he wants to lynch but overall I feel very good about him this game. He’s posting well and is thinking along the same lines I am. Also after being scum with him in the last game, his behavior is so different this game I just have to use a little meta. Verdict: Probably Town VayneAuthority: hmm tricky one. On one hand his posts feel very natural and open which is good because it means he’s not hiding anything but on the other hand he’s been useless thus far. He’s another one I’m going to have to wait and see on. Verdict: Null Strongandbig: only just started playing, I’ll wait and see. Verdict: Null Gumshoe: I actually agree with s&b that gumshoe’s constant talk of nukes is odd but I don’t think it’s damning. Aside from the nuke talk I actually didn’t really have any problems with gumshoe. Verdict: Possible Town OriginalName: This one’s making a lot of sense/agreeing with me on the right things. Verdict: Probably Town TanGeng: For someone who doesn’t have a lot of posts this dude is surprisingly coherent and smart. Verdict: Possible Town Xatalos: this bro and I are dying which is too bad because he’s def town Verdict: Probable Town CaucasianAsian: One post talking about the thread. Verdict: Someone vigi his ass Alakaslam: For all the pregame spam he had he’s been very quiet now that the actual game has started. That coupled with his little martyr post (watch me be scummy by tomorrow morning) tells me that I should fulfill his prophecy. Verdict: Possible Scum WaveOfShadow: last game as scum I wrote what I thought was actually a very decent piece of analysis (albeit fake) against WoS. I see him doing a lot of stuff that I had brought up in my analysis again which makes me think we’re dealing with a town WoS Verdict: Probably Town Jampidampi: New player, don’t recognize him, he at least seems like he’s trying to play the game. Verdict: Possible Town Raynpelikoneet: lolscum Verdict: Probably Scum Nirvana.Gabo: promised to be active, he has a few more hours left of grace period. Verdict: Null FirmTofu: said he needed a few minutes to read the thread, never got back. Verdict: Someone vigi his ass Chezinu: possibly town, don’t really feel like arguing with the jubjubs about this one. Verdict: Possibly Town Austinmcc: need to see some activity bro :/ I liked it when he was posting but now that it slacked off a bit I don’t like the feeling. If Austin comes back I’ll feel much better, if he stays away I’ll start thinking scum. Verdict: Null Ok so tl;dr Probably scum: raynpelikoneet Possible scum: Danel, abensen, MajurGarzett, Alakaslam Null: oatsmaster, stutters, onegu, vayneauthority, strongandbig, Nirvana, austinmcc Possible town: gumshoe, TanGeng, jampidampi, Chez Probably town: Ace, Johnnywup, geript, originalname, xata, WoS Towniest townie who ever town: Meapak_Ziphh Vigi these lurkers ASAP: ghost_403, Z-Boson, CaucasianAsian, FirmTofu | ||
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I'm gonna go answer your questions now. | ||
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On July 08 2013 04:46 geript wrote: A few things. 1. Why does Vayne get a null as compared to possible scum for you? Similar to what I said earlier, he feels confident or at least not like he's hiding something. Usually when I'm reading noobs who I've never played with before I try and gauge how they interact with the thread. Vayne felt natural to me. I have him as null because obviously it's D1 and I could be horribly off target but I definitely do not think he'd be a good lynch. 2. Considering Austin's similarity between this game and PTP, why are you null on Austin instead of scm leaning? ahh austin is an interesting one, he started off posting well I thought and then went afk. Now as I learned in the PTP game, people go afk for none scummy reasons (it almost lost the scum team the game). Yes, his disappearance looks bad, but it's D1 so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt which is why I put him as null. Now that he's come back and is posting I feel better about him and don't want to kill him. I nuked him in a PYP game for play very similar to this, he was town. 3. Why does Alakaslam's martyring make him look scummy? It's like a preemptive defense that an innocent player would not need. I mean c'mon, would you or I leave the thread and feel the need to defend ourselves in case someone attacked us while we were gone? Townies get called scum all the time, but they have an inherent innocence about their defense because they know the accusations are wrong. Scum know deep down the accusations are right and thus have this inherent guilt. That's why martyring is scummy, it shows that inherent guilt. 4. Explain the scum read on Rayn. bleh stupidity isn't a scumtell :/ 5. Why is FT a good vigi shot especially in comparison to CA? They both have next to no posts and FT had a promise of activity which he never fulfilled. Actually as a note about vigi shots, all the people I mention can get off that list by simply posting. I put people up for vigi shots who were lurking or inactive 6. How in the fuck is Chez possible town? This game is practically exactly the same as LX? I called him possible town in a reaction to the people calling for his death. In my mind he's more likely town than scum, especially since he's hinting that he was forced to launch a nuke. I'm really not interested in killing him today. Although you may have a point that I'm missing since I don't remember LX very well (was I even in it?). 7. Why would him talking about nukes make Gumshoe non-towny? Why does he get a towny read as compared to a null read for you? When people constantly discuss certain setup aspects it is always odd and that's how I felt about his nuke talk. It doesn't make him non-towny, it's just noteworthy like I said. He gets a green read because I like his posts and I continue to like them since I posted this list 8. What was bad about Whoops entrance. How does this noob status make him town instead of some of the other newbs like Alakaslam, Onegu, FirmTofu, etc.? It was awkward and if it had been made by a more experienced player I'd say scummy. However unlike the other people you mentioned, johnny has been attempting to play, defending himself, and providing reads. At least right now with so many lurkers and people like Dandel (who needs to die) running around I feel johnny isn't a good lynch | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: If MZ does not die to the nuke there is no way he is town. lol now I want to survive so bad so I can see you try to lynch me. That'd be cute ^_^ | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also whoever had a townread on Ace, explain. I don't see anything alignment indicative from him. Anybody who's ever played with Ace will give him a town read right now. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have played with Ace, multiple times. Can you explain the townread on him? Scum Ace is disruptive, scum Ace is in the thread constantly flinging dirt around and getting away with it because of his name, scum Ace is stifling discussion, scum Ace is active. Town Ace is just sitting around praying he's not the target of every single scum action night one. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: xata, austin, and geript shut up for a second and tell me why we shouldn't lynch dandel | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you happen to remember the last game Ace was scum in? I have no idea the last game Ace was scum in. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Austin: Are you seriously saying that is a good reason to nuke Xata? Like, why? MZ: So Ace is supposedly a good scumplayer. And you are saying he is really easy to figure out as town when he is town. How the fuck does that make sense? On Dandel: We are not lynching Dandel. He is most likely town. If Ace was active and contributing and playing like most people consider "town" I'd be more suspicious of him because one of his strengths is appearing town. Right now he doesn't give a fuck and that's town Ace. If he suddenly came blasting in here and accusing people and making cases and shit that wouldn't instantly make him scum but it'd make me second guess the town play. You apparently had an off game with him, it's rather difficult for me to explain this concept to someone who's never seen it. There's a PYP game where Ace plays his typical scum game and incognito nails him on it, I don't remember exactly the name of the game but that would neatly illustrate my point. Anyway we are lynching Dandel today, I just decided. | ||
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On July 07 2013 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote: Also, in an concentrated effort to prepare for sicilian mafia (for which I'm not actually signed up for, but you can never know), I'll stop posting for the dayphase, and only vote from now on. Inactive Dandel is scum Dandel Apathetic Dandel is scum Dandel Let's not let him slide here. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:53 Xatalos wrote: geript/rayn, would you be down for an austinmcc lynch? His answers so far haven't really been satisfactory. At the very least I want him under heavier pressure ASAP. Meapak, what's with you and Dandel Ion? He hasn't really done anything, yeah, and that's concerning. Especially compared to his town play in PTP. Actually he might be an okay lynch, but it'd basically be a shot into the dark (he could reasonably likely be just AFK as town). Not a solid scum lynch by any means. As austin's scumbuddy in PTP I can't get behind his lynch today. There are just too many differences. He's not as evasive as he was in PTP and he's been a lot more active. I very carefully watched his play in PTP and I just don't see enough similarities here. Dandel on the other hand is trying to skate in a large game. I recall him being a lot more active and spammy when he's town. He's usually making reads and participating but instead this game I feel like he's trying to see how long he can lurk. This is not town Dandel and I feel that it is a much better lynch than austin. | ||
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