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On July 14 2013 13:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.
you guys are forgetting stutters claim. This completely contradicts that claim. One of Ace or Stutters is scum or both.
If the nuke is actually real then Stutters lied. We'll see when it lands. Look back at the explanation I was asking for when I first fired the nuke and he brought up being sabotaged.
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I spelled Maju's name wrong
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Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.
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Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right?
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On July 15 2013 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
So basically your case is an association case, is that right? It's not, really. You're not reading the case properly. Regardless on MG's flip Geript is trying to force us to waste our time. Someone said they asked Artanis whether it would show if the nuke lands if we lynch MG and apparently it DOESN'T. This means that Geript will have wasted our time again and we will learn absolutely nothing about Stutters' role if he has is way and we lynch MG.
this is based on the jampi nuke situation? (speed reading here)
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On July 15 2013 01:53 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right? I was waiting to see if a silent nuke got launched today. Possibility of that ended 7ish hours ago. The early confusion was you hearing that stutters's factory got raided, and so thinking your nuke had been destroyed. But seeing as you appear to have still had a nuke...I figured you could sort that one out.
I did sort it out 
I was saying why you didn't just fess up, but if you think Stutters was silent nuking then sure. If a silent nuke did get launched how would that have incriminated him though? Like what was your plan of action?
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since a nuke didn't get launched, and you raided him - then you feel he is still possibly the launcher of silent nukes then. Correct?
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On July 15 2013 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right? Stutters was telling the truth about what? According to Vayne if he was telling the truth you should never have even been able to launch a nuke.
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I thought the nuke not killing Maju was the test for whether it was fake or not. Are we sure the actual launch is the test?
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On July 15 2013 02:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:00 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right? Stutters was telling the truth about what? According to Vayne if he was telling the truth you should never have even been able to launch a nuke. ??? I thought the nuke not killing Maju was the test for whether it was fake or not. Are we sure the actual launch is the test? ...What? The nuke hasn't landed yet. Ace what are you talking about?
I fired it 12 hours ago
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oh wait, they dont land in 12 hours.
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Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia.
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@WoS: Makes 0 sense to lynch geript today. Not unless Maju flips Scum.
Onegu/SNB; Again, 4 people claimed IO. 2 of them have died and flip Town. If you believe all 4 of them are town and can spread radiation then say so. If not, then one of SNB/Onegu must be scum.
If the nuke on Maju lands and is not real, we lynch him tomorrow. If it lands and is real he dies, and we lynch Stutters for lying. It makes no sense voting for him right now.
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gumshoe should be getting modkilled shouldn't he? If not *shrug*
You want us to lynch a lurker?
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On July 15 2013 04:37 Stutters695 wrote:
I'll dive Onegu/SnB real quick when I get a chance at work. If we aren't doing Austin I can dig that.
Ace just to confirm you only received 1 nuke d2 right?
right
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Oats I really dont see a gumshoe lynch being productive right now.
@Wos: keep your sanity. Which path do you want to go down?
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Well Wos it comes down to do you think 4 town people would be capable of spreading radiation? If you do, then it comes down to austin/vayne/stutters. Stutters isn't going to be lynched until we know about the nuke. It then comes down to austin or vayne and I don't think anyone in their right mind is viewing vayne as scum right now. Austin was already leading votes before I brought up SnB so several people are comfortable pushing him and I assume, figuring out vayne/stutters after.
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Koshi don't sheep us. Find your reasons for SnB based on this thread. Meta stuff is irrelevant right now.
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If you don't like the lynch give some reasons, vote somewhere else, ask questions, do something. I know we've had some weird last minute wagons before but now that we're aware of them be proactive if you don't feel good.
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@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
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On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once.
On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia.
On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for?
That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted.
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