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jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 04 2013 05:26 GMT
#13
/in
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 09:08:20
June 08 2013 06:30 GMT
#68
Just a as pregame thing, I might be a little less active at the start of D1 because I'll be watching the WCS Finals. And the deadline is like 4 AM my time, so don't expect me to make it every time.

Edit: can't do math, the deadlines actually 5 AM my time. Still can't promise always being here for deadlines.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 08 2013 07:06 GMT
#72
BH so scummy, we should lynch him pregame.
##Vote Blazinghand
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 08 2013 09:10 GMT
#76
can't tell if serious or Axle

or both
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 04:45 GMT
#92
Everyone watching the WCS finals I guess...
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 04:57 GMT
#95
You aren't a Starcraft fan?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 05:06 GMT
#97
Why would you make a good mayor?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 05:32 GMT
#102
On June 09 2013 14:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Shaio is town, let's make him Mayor

##Vote Mayor: ShaioPi

Why are you so sure he is town?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 05:39 GMT
#107
OMG cookies

...

This might be a trap...

But cookies!

...

ShiaoPi for Mayor!
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 05:44 GMT
#110
I looked at his filters from his two previous scum games.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 05:52 GMT
#115
You had a really early read on someone with few posts, so it had something to do with meta. I asked so that you would share your reasoning. And validating the fact that ShiaoPi lurked hard in his last scum games is not a hard task to do. Open filter, look at the lenght of it, look at the time of the first post and the last (game related) post. ShiaoPi is one of those kind gentleman who puts his past games in his profile and TL has fast search function, so the process was fast.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 06:00 GMT
#119
On June 09 2013 14:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, but that requires a lot of assumptions. Not only do you have to process and understand my read on ShiaoPi, but you also have to trust that I'm telling the truth and that I'm town.

I have a lot of subconscious reasons to trust you.
1. You were my coach in a newbie
2. You were my hydra partner and we were town
3. I haven't read a scum game of yours

Also, cookies
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 09 2013 09:48 GMT
#139
A campaign being serious or not is based on the smilies. No smilies = serious campaign. Smilies = joke campaign. What makes a campaign is trying to get others to vote for you. Axle voted himself, because he didn't have better alternatives. But since he isn't asking others to vote him, it's not a campaign.

@Hapa
Are you trying to help Vayne play better or are you noting something you find somewhat scummy? Your post is not clear to me.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 10 2013 04:25 GMT
#245
Blazinghand is suspicious. All he has managed to say so far is "I support the towniest of Hapa, VA and me to be mayor". Especially these two posts are suspicious. He comes back to the thread just to repeat something that has been already said. Why not do something useful?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 10 2013 04:37 GMT
#257
On June 10 2013 13:28 Hapahauli wrote:
@ jampi

What are your thoughts on our resident japanese video game character (Gravity Man)?

GravityMan seems to little a few too many words. Dunno if that is somehow related to him trying roleplay or him trying to appear as contributin more. Do smurfs usually roleplay?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 10 2013 04:59 GMT
#258
On June 10 2013 11:08 Hapahauli wrote:
1) He has a lack of natural suspicion.

Him immediately trusting my words and supporting the ShaioPi campaign after displaying suspicion of it is not natural in the 7-minute window in which he did it. I had accepted his explanation as "open" before, but 7 minutes is an absurd turn-around. I'd expect him to be much more naturally suspicious in his 2nd non-newbie game ever on this site.

I had bought his explanation (of sub-consciously trusting me as town) earlier, however I don't think it's as compelling as I had initially thought. All he's really doing is buddying up to me, which is nothing new for scum to do.

Look at ShiaoPis posts at that point. There isn't really anything alignment indicative. In this light it would sense for me to have a null read on him right? Then someone comes and tells me with high confidence that he is town without reasoning. I then ask for his reasoning to validate it. You've somehow managed to assume I suspected ShiaoPi. It is more like there weren't any good reasons to think he is town, hence your townread on him looked really odd. In the 7-minute window, I did not stop to think about you or your alignment since that was not what I was trying to figure out at that time.

2)
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On June 09 2013 18:48 jampidampi wrote:
A campaign being serious or not is based on the smilies. No smilies = serious campaign. Smilies = joke campaign. What makes a campaign is trying to get others to vote for you. Axle voted himself, because he didn't have better alternatives. But since he isn't asking others to vote him, it's not a campaign.

@Hapa
Are you trying to help Vayne play better or are you noting something you find somewhat scummy? Your post is not clear to me.


The underlined question in this post makes no sense objectively.

Jampi mentioned that he subconsciously trusted me as town, and seemingly has some sort of town-read on me. Furthermore, he answered Stutters question (directed towards me) in the first half of his post.

If he's treating me as town, this question makes no sense. Because if he trusts me, my answer to this question has absolutely no relevancy towards anything (such as the read he's suggesting on Vayne).

Futhermore, jampi just hasn't posted any content thusfar. He has 6-7 posts and absolutely zero meaningful content. Even with Day 1 caveats, jampis filter reads like an attempt to contribute by posting useless things.

The first part of my post is answearing to Sylencia, and is in no way related to you. I also don't know how you have gathered that I have a town read on you? Subconsious trust =/= trust.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 10 2013 05:16 GMT
#259
BH, since you seem to be omnipresent, why don't you tell me why you would support VA for mayor?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 10 2013 07:21 GMT
#284
On June 10 2013 15:21 GravityMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 13:37 jampidampi wrote:
On June 10 2013 13:28 Hapahauli wrote:
@ jampi

What are your thoughts on our resident japanese video game character (Gravity Man)?

GravityMan seems to little a few too many words. Dunno if that is somehow related to him trying roleplay or him trying to appear as contributin more. Do smurfs usually roleplay?

My universal translator must be malfunctioning as I cannot understand exactly what it is you have said here.

Oops, sorry. My thoughts were faster than my typing, so part of the orginal sentence seems to be missing. To be more clear, I'll reword it completely: My first impression of you was that you use too many words to say what you want to say. I couldn't figure out if that was because you trying to appear to contribute more, or because that is how you speak. Upon rereading, it seems that the latter is more probable.

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On June 10 2013 13:59 jampidampi wrote:
On June 10 2013 11:08 Hapahauli wrote:
1) He has a lack of natural suspicion.

Him immediately trusting my words and supporting the ShaioPi campaign after displaying suspicion of it is not natural in the 7-minute window in which he did it. I had accepted his explanation as "open" before, but 7 minutes is an absurd turn-around. I'd expect him to be much more naturally suspicious in his 2nd non-newbie game ever on this site.

I had bought his explanation (of sub-consciously trusting me as town) earlier, however I don't think it's as compelling as I had initially thought. All he's really doing is buddying up to me, which is nothing new for scum to do.

Look at ShiaoPis posts at that point. There isn't really anything alignment indicative. In this light it would sense for me to have a null read on him right? Then someone comes and tells me with high confidence that he is town without reasoning. I then ask for his reasoning to validate it. You've somehow managed to assume I suspected ShiaoPi. It is more like there weren't any good reasons to think he is town, hence your townread on him looked really odd. In the 7-minute window, I did not stop to think about you or your alignment since that was not what I was trying to figure out at that time.

2)
On June 09 2013 18:48 jampidampi wrote:
A campaign being serious or not is based on the smilies. No smilies = serious campaign. Smilies = joke campaign. What makes a campaign is trying to get others to vote for you. Axle voted himself, because he didn't have better alternatives. But since he isn't asking others to vote him, it's not a campaign.

@Hapa
Are you trying to help Vayne play better or are you noting something you find somewhat scummy? Your post is not clear to me.


The underlined question in this post makes no sense objectively.

Jampi mentioned that he subconsciously trusted me as town, and seemingly has some sort of town-read on me. Furthermore, he answered Stutters question (directed towards me) in the first half of his post.

If he's treating me as town, this question makes no sense. Because if he trusts me, my answer to this question has absolutely no relevancy towards anything (such as the read he's suggesting on Vayne).

Futhermore, jampi just hasn't posted any content thusfar. He has 6-7 posts and absolutely zero meaningful content. Even with Day 1 caveats, jampis filter reads like an attempt to contribute by posting useless things.

The first part of my post is answearing to Sylencia, and is in no way related to you. I also don't know how you have gathered that I have a town read on you? Subconsious trust =/= trust.

This second post interests me as it appears to be the second time of note that this Hapahauli appears to be misrepresenting the tone of one's posts. jampidampi, if you are indeed validating here that you in no way thought that this ShiaoPi was scummy with your earlier posting, do you think it is scummy that this Hapahauli would try to paint you as such? I must admit my thinking has been similar to his.

I wouldn't call him scum for it, since it seems that others (you, stutters) too have interpreted my post in ways I never thought they would be interpreted.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 10 2013 15:41 GMT
#314
I can get behind a Vayne lynch. In his two latest posts, he first states that he is not trying to hide anything, but in the second he hides his reasoning even when someone asked for them. Dafug? It might not necessarily mean that he is scum, but do you think you can read him? I know I can't.

##Vote: VayneAuthority

I'll be gone, but will back about one hour before the deadline.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 01:06 GMT
#437
Now catching up
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 01:42 GMT
#444
On June 11 2013 03:58 Hapahauli wrote:
So reading through the exchange in the last few pages, I don't think Oats is scum. He's trying to help in his own right, even though he's a bit misguided.

Furthermore, his strategy of "antagonize all the vets" seems fairly suicidal for scum to do. Hell last time he attacked me as scum, he ended up getting lynched (Duke Nukem Mafia), so that should be pretty fresh in his mind.

Jampi is by far the best lynch for today. He's produced fairly little content, and his vote on Vayne is by far the weakest.
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On June 11 2013 00:41 jampidampi wrote:
I can get behind a Vayne lynch. In his two latest posts, he first states that he is not trying to hide anything, but in the second he hides his reasoning even when someone asked for them. Dafug? It might not necessarily mean that he is scum, but do you think you can read him? I know I can't.

##Vote: VayneAuthority

I'll be gone, but will back about one hour before the deadline.


Carefully read the underlined passage. Jampi is NOT voting Vayne because he thinks Vayne is scum! He's voting Vayne because "it's hard to read him."

That's a scumclaim.

##Vote Lynch: Jampidampi

I'm in a lost state. I can't seem to find scum or town with reasoning, just gut. Yes I wasn't voting for Vayne because what he has said makes him scum. But in my mind, there was no one scummy to vote for. Would it have been to propose a policy lynch on DP out of nowhere? Because in my mind, those where the two realistic lynch options. Everyone else seemed somewhat townie (expect maybe Stutters, but it wasn't like he was giving me any scumvibes).
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 01:55 GMT
#448
ShiaoPi town
pure gut

Axle town
lays down his whole thought process in the thread

Gravity town
seems to actually want to find alignments of people

others null

all gut reads
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 01:56 GMT
#449
On June 11 2013 10:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's not a very compelling reason not to kill you ya know.

I really can't accept the fact that you, who are known for bombing analysis left and right in your newbie games, would all of a sudden be completely lost and provide nothing all of Day 1.

Gimme a scumread other than myself.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 01:58 GMT
#454
On June 11 2013 10:57 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't think I believe oats as town any more. Something about it just doesn't smell right to me. I KNOW he's liek this a lot as scum... but still. Does anyone want to lynch him? I'm willing to swap.

I can get behind that for self preservation
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 01:59 GMT
#461
BTW i think we have two scum and some third parties. I fyou read the OP carefully, it doesn't give out the number of scum.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 02:03 GMT
#468
Look, no one can give scum reads thats not me, how am I supposed to find scum?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 02:04 GMT
#472
On June 11 2013 11:03 GravityMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 10:59 jampidampi wrote:
BTW i think we have two scum and some third parties. I fyou read the OP carefully, it doesn't give out the number of scum.

Is this even a possibility?
This also makes it seem as though this jampidampi was not aware of the presence of closed setups before this point.
This post by jampidampi creates a pit in my stomach where I feel he may be newer to this than we may have thought.

I will not change my vote at this stage as it allows for too much exploitation by possible mafia members.

I think there is a SK or a survivor, or maybe even both
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 02:06 GMT
#476
On June 11 2013 11:05 GravityMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 11:03 jampidampi wrote:
Look, no one can give scum reads thats not me, how am I supposed to find scum?

Is there absolutely nothing that anyone said throughout the entirety of this game that made you think twice?
Is there anything at all that might be suspicious in the slightest that you can give us?

At this point since you will cease to exist anyway you have nothing to lose, no matter how inane or irrelevant it sounds to you.

Nothing that I can think of so abrutly
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 02:06 GMT
#479
Or maybe BH for not giving shit and just arguing with oats
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 02:07 GMT
#483
On June 11 2013 11:07 GravityMan wrote:
My posting has been halted by Wave Man and his Flood Control.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 11:04 jampidampi wrote:
On June 11 2013 11:03 GravityMan wrote:
On June 11 2013 10:59 jampidampi wrote:
BTW i think we have two scum and some third parties. I fyou read the OP carefully, it doesn't give out the number of scum.

Is this even a possibility?
This also makes it seem as though this jampidampi was not aware of the presence of closed setups before this point.
This post by jampidampi creates a pit in my stomach where I feel he may be newer to this than we may have thought.

I will not change my vote at this stage as it allows for too much exploitation by possible mafia members.

I think there is a SK or a survivor, or maybe even both


I do not understand what would make you say this.

It's kinda imba if there are only two scum, right?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 11 2013 02:09 GMT
#487
Hapa why so tunnel?
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 06:06:14
June 15 2013 06:01 GMT
#1367
Well played scum team, well played. It's kinda funny that this game could have ended D2 if scum won the election.
7-3-1
misslynch
6-3-1
nightkill
5-3-1
mayor condemns
4-3-1
and then the survior votes with scum and they have a majority.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 15 2013 14:53 GMT
#1376
On June 15 2013 20:19 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 15:01 jampidampi wrote:
Well played scum team, well played. It's kinda funny that this game could have ended D2 if scum won the election.
7-3-1
misslynch
6-3-1
nightkill
5-3-1
mayor condemns
4-3-1
and then the survior votes with scum and they have a majority.


Good thing hapa didnt roll scum then

also neither the survivor nor the scum mayor would be sure the other existed.
but yeah a scum mayor D1 looks bad

Even if scum don't know there is a survivor, it's still D2 LYLO.
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