EPTOn June 11 2013 04:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
scum. caught redhanded with a 0 logic post
scum. caught redhanded with a 0 logic post
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Blazinghand
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Hapahauli
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I don't like how he decided to call Oats a retard for like 3 pages of conversation, and that reads more like provocation than something purposeful. However I do think he's capable of doing stuff like that as town to a degree. I'd like one more day with BH, but jampi has a clearly attributable scum-mentality with his vote on Vayne. | ||
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VayneAuthority
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On June 11 2013 04:04 Hapahauli wrote: I'm not sold on BH yet. I don't like how he decided to call Oats a retard for like 3 pages of conversation, and that reads more like provocation than something purposeful. However I do think he's capable of doing stuff like that as town to a degree. I'd like one more day with BH, but jampi has a clearly attributable scum-mentality with his vote on Vayne. alright but if i die or he doesnt die lynch him. hes pretty blatant scum this game. ##unvote ##lynch:jampi | ||
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GravityMan
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On June 11 2013 04:00 VayneAuthority wrote: this is actually really scummy are you softing here that your scumteam doesnt have rb capabilities so you just want me dead? Nothing about your post makes sense. the town's incompetency to scumhunt when ive been softing blue is what caused this. why if you think im cop would you want me not protected I disagree with your comment. I would posit that acting purposefully mysterious and dropping hints without any details is not a good way to hide the fact that you have a power role, rather it makes you look incredibly suspicious. The best thing in my opinion that you could have done to avoid suspicion would have been most probably if you had actually played the game as I had suggested earlier. I am also unsure as to why you chose this specific moment to claim. Did you feel that my questioning of you specifically was liable to get you lynched or was it simply a coincidence that you claimed while we were discussing and you were already worried about those currently voting for you? Regarding those who have followed along with ShiaoPi's voting, whom of those do you think are scum? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415754¤tpage=17#333 Comments on lynching jampidampi please. ^^ | ||
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Blazinghand
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plus read Mr inversion with oats. I was totally reasonable to e point of being confusingly manner until he started getting a shit head. that ducker started it | ||
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GravityMan
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On June 10 2013 16:21 jampidampi wrote: Oops, sorry. My thoughts were faster than my typing, so part of the orginal sentence seems to be missing. To be more clear, I'll reword it completely: My first impression of you was that you use too many words to say what you want to say. I couldn't figure out if that was because you trying to appear to contribute more, or because that is how you speak. Upon rereading, it seems that the latter is more probable. I wouldn't call him scum for it, since it seems that others (you, stutters) too have interpreted my post in ways I never thought they would be interpreted. Do you believe his response to my questions of him? Were his insinuations of your scumminess completely innocent? As you answer this I ask that you also glance at our early conversation where you also assumed I was calling you scum. Are there differences between these two insinuations to you? With regards to your latest case, the evidence appears strong. I remain wary however since this jampidampi appears to be new to the game of scum and town and it is still entirely possible that it is simply his mindset as to lynch reasoning that is in error, however unlikely. To conclude, I believe I will be able to absorb the meaning behind the electrical impulses in his brain once this jampidampi responds to the accusations (assuming he does) but until that point in time, I am forced to relinquish my reservations in the trusting of you. ##Lynch vote: jampidampi | ||
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Blazinghand
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On June 11 2013 04:17 Hapahauli wrote: Oats is not scum. You are describing his town-game. Stop lynching obv townies. deduce for me then what does scum oats look like of not like this? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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On June 11 2013 04:08 GravityMan wrote: I disagree with your comment. I would posit that acting purposefully mysterious and dropping hints without any details is not a good way to hide the fact that you have a power role, rather it makes you look incredibly suspicious. The best thing in my opinion that you could have done to avoid suspicion would have been most probably if you had actually played the game as I had suggested earlier. I am also unsure as to why you chose this specific moment to claim. Did you feel that my questioning of you specifically was liable to get you lynched or was it simply a coincidence that you claimed while we were discussing and you were already worried about those currently voting for you? Regarding those who have followed along with ShiaoPi's voting, whom of those do you think are scum? yea because scum try to look scummy on purpose. no they look over their posts and try to fit in. i had to claimbecause i wont be online after this before deadline. scum jampi and bh i think | ||
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Hapahauli
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Jampi isn't as new of a player as you might believe. He has a history of 4 town-games, one of which is a hydra game with me, which leaves us with 3 to draw from. If there's one theme consistant across his play is that he's a very analytical player. His play (and especially his vote on Vayne) is so out of character with this. In his 1st Newbie game, it doesn't take much of a read in his filter to understand how analysis-heavy his style is. He's very straightforward, asks good questions, and is very useful to town. Consider posts like... On January 04 2013 00:37 jampidampi wrote: My analysis on Mocsta + Show Spoiler + Very active, as he was in Newbie Mini Mafia XXXIII. He's constantly trying to pressure people into posting, going as far as giving them advice on what to post. He was also doing it during XXXIII, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Also, he is the only one who has taken concrete actions (the vote on cDgCorazon) during this whole time. Leaning towards town Spaghetticus + Show Spoiler + If we exclude the the QT question, he plays the way he played in earlier games. First posting a list of lurkers and pressuring them to contribute, then beginning to analyse individual cases. I believe that On January 03 2013 11:42 Spaghetticus wrote: DO NOT LURK. IDGAF WHO PLAYS SCUMMY I WILL BE VOTING THE LURKIEST PLAYER DAY ONE PERIOD. was his way of saying that he hates lurkers. Regarding the QT question: If he was scum, he would have gotten the QT link with his role PM. Would anyone ask something they already know of? Or was it a way to get his scumbuddy to come to the QT? It is all just speculation, but I hope everyone here would have the brains to check out the QT from their PM. Leaning towards town cDgCorazon + Show Spoiler + Appears to be playing diffrently from Newbie XXXIII. He hasn't been as active this time around, and he isn't as aggressive with his scum claims. And I don't think he would be purposefully bringing up his scum game so many times if he actually was a scum. Leaning towards town Please note that the analysis on Spaghetticus was written before his post answearing questions. In one post in his first newbie game on D1, he provided 30x the analysis that he's provided so far this game. And there's more just from the first page of his filter... I'd encourage you to read it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389091&user=jampidampi In his 2nd newbie game, take a look at how he makes his first vote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359¤tpage=15#289 His 3rd newbie game is more of the same, and is even more analyitical. He nailed 2 of 3 scum on D1 and got shot immediately N1.. .just read the whole filter. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058&user=jampidampi So the explanation that jampi is a scared newbie rings very hollow to me. I'll admit that there's a very small possibility that he's gone into his first normal game too scared to do anything, but it's far more likely that his lack of contribution and terrible vote on Vayne (for reasons other than Vayne being scum) is because jampi is scum. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
##Mayor Vote: Hapahauli Note that I am aware of the issue of the detective claim from this VayneAuthority. Would you be certain that electing him would grant him some form of protection allowing him to make use of his role? This also assumes he can make use of his role well. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On June 11 2013 04:19 Blazinghand wrote: deduce for me then what does scum oats look like of not like this? Objectively, do you think scum would go and try to attack the town-vet against all possible thread sentiment? Especially if that vet is known for OMGUS'ing the fuck out of people? Well that's what Oats is doing this game. His play is suicidal from a scum-perspective. Attacking town-Hapa when everyone thinks Hapa is town might be most retarded scum-strategy ever. Furthermore, Oats is active and is contributing in his own way. By any objective standard right now, the guy is town. One question for you BH: Who is scummier - Oats or Jampi? You've been dodging the issue, and I want a clear answer. | ||
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GravityMan
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Sylencia - I queried you earlier and received no response. AxleGreaser - I thoroughly enjoy our intercourse and await your return so that we may converse more. Stutters - Your contribution to this game has been severely lacking in my opinion, and there is a great deal for you to comment on. You may choose the topic, however I expect something with weight to it. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Actually, I think it's a better idea if I'm the mayor going forward. While it sounds nice to have a Cop as the mayor, it's likely that your checks won't be reliable going forward. You'll either be roleblocked until the end of time (if there is a roleblocker, and hell they might block your mayoral powers as well in one shot), or mafia will have many ways to fuck with your checks (godfather, framer, etc) What we need going forward is an analyst that can survive several days in the game to catch the remaining scum. And to be quite frank, I think the only person with the appropriate reputation for that right now. The mayoral office probably carries some sort of protection mechanic, and even if it does not, it forces scum to chose between shooting you and me. | ||
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