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On June 25 2013 04:42 austinmcc wrote: THIS POST GOT WAY TOO BIG AND IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING TOWARDS THE END acro, this is some butt right here. For one, Maybe that was unclear, but no context meant I was just re-filtering and not going through to really dig into when votes came in, when he posted, where votes moved. Look guys! I'll throw out a test balloon, and when it hilariously backfires and someone calls me scum, I will backpedal as fast as I can. Additionally, now that you have exhaustively gone through the context, you're still wrong. Whether they were "sheep votes" or not, it is completely clear that Xfire killed the momentum in that lynch. Half of my case was based on the fact that sk8er reacted in a non-townlike manner to expecting to die. sk8er himself then claimed (a little bit) how his role worked, which isn't enough because who knows whether he's telling the truth. Xfire confirmed that it was either the truth or they're both lying scum (highly unlikely). So the very fact that his role prevented him from dying debunked most of my case. And when I read the thread upon returning from the park (not sleeping, you derps), I wondered why sk8er hadn't been lynched, and that was the exact moment in the thread where I thought "yeah, I wouldn't lynch sk8er anymore at this point". So... you wrote ALL of that to call me BAD? Or are you calling Xfire scum? Or what exactly are you doing? I know I'd be happy with your head on a stake tomorrow. | ||
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On June 25 2013 04:45 Xatalos wrote: I guess it boils down to this: why were you so, not necessarily wishy-washy, but unnoticeable for the whole of D1? I'll be returning to this later, most likely, but I want to hear your reasoning/explanation now. For future reference. If you happen to be scum, it's nice to have something to "hold" you onto. If you're town, your thought patterns should stay consistent and thus there's nothing to worry about. (Btw you should read that case, it's much better explained than my confusing ramblings. And I'd like your first impression of it as well, please.) I wouldn't say I was. Self-analysis is pretty useless, though, as everybody is the most awesomest mafia player in their own mind. I think all of this stems from the fact that I wasn't around for the 2 or 3 hours before the deadline, which I can explain by being in the park. I know sunlight is scary to some TL folks, but you should try it sometime. | ||
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On June 25 2013 05:07 Xatalos wrote: That's... Well, something less than I expected. Considering that I'm not the only one who said that so far, shouldn't you rather look in the mirror than deny/dodge? And go read that case asap as well. If you're town I want your opinion before deadline hits, just in case. Instead of reading the case, I read all of WoS filter, first. Because I like to have an opinion ready BEFORE reading the case. What I come out of that with myself is that WoS is somewhat dodgy, but far from a strong scum read. The worst part about WoS is him having absolutely no real reason to jump on s0lstice. In fact, his whole reason was Xatalos' antagonistic post which he misread as coming from s0lstice (as far as I can figure that out). Other than that, I have no problems with it, and the reason I stepped off the "WoS is scum" warpath during D1 still applies: he was critically trying to figure stuff out during the whole shot stuff. Now let me go and read the case. | ||
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Well, either that, or I read that post wrong at the time and in the reread I just did. So then his case is based upon the giant shift in viewpoint that WoS suddenly defends sk8er... while WoS never had a scumread on sk8er. He was somewhat dubious about sk8er's posting, but I never got the impression he thought sk8er was scum, and at the time I also had the feeling that he was at about the same wavelength as I was in my thoughts about sk8er. | ||
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It's a very looong case, but based on a number of false assumptions / misreads. However, they don't really seem intentional and the case isn't forced. So... MZ goes town a bit on the scumometer, but he's still floating around the top of the pond. | ||
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On June 25 2013 05:55 Zephirdd wrote: by the way I havent read shit most of today, I think I asked a question to xatalos and I'll go back to that I shot WoS Why WoS? | ||
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On July 01 2013 07:45 gonzaw wrote: YES! BRAZIL!!!!! 2-0 against Spain Take that pretty boys | ||
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On July 03 2013 06:08 kitaman27 wrote: I'm shooting both of you at any possible opportunity in any future game from now on. Bwahahahahahahahaha, you're dead. I mean... | ||
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Austin town and scum MVP! | ||
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Town threw this game pretty badly  Endgame was fun, though :D | ||
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decon said in obs QT that roleblocks weren't notified. So essentially, it was xfire who had the wrong info, didn't check it properly, and you all piled onto Xata, who was playing quite okay when you got through the elaborate waffly way of talking.. which if you had even bothered to look at my filter, you would have noticed is part of his town meta, despite me going all raaaage at him over it. | ||
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On July 03 2013 09:35 gonzaw wrote: Xfire specifically said a host gave him a PM saying RBs are notified. Xata specifically said no host gave him a PM saying he was RBed. Logically one of them is 100% lying, those are logical contradictions. If you figure out Xfire is telling the truth then Xata is lying scum by derivation Well....or they should be.... Why the fuck would scum be dumb enough to lie about something as obvious as this. HE LIED HE'S SCUM is soooo fucking stupid. What you conclude from this, as you do in ALL complicated themed games is that somewhere along the line the mods got their stuff confused. For instance, go and look at how much shit hapa and prom had to deal with in Chrono Trigger for mod errors. It happens every complicated game. | ||
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On July 03 2013 09:37 gonzaw wrote: *sigh* Yeah I shouldn't put the blame on bad hosting, I know. Sorry guys No, you shouldn't. The hosting was fine. Mistakes happen. Which reminds me, thanks decon and sentinel! | ||
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On July 03 2013 09:38 gonzaw wrote: RBs aren't complicated How many games have you hosted? I can get confused in a NORMAL game, when I have to send a DT check, a roleblock notification, and 1 or 2 death PMs. I always get paranoid and doublecheck everything 5 times. This game had every single person performing an action which included bus driving, role blocking, vote stealing, inventing, tardis gifting and god knows what else. | ||
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On July 03 2013 09:44 gonzaw wrote: Anyways Acro, you don't need to make me feel bad about the game, I already do It wasn't aimed at you. I know you put your heart into this game <3 It was just my raging in obs QT | ||
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I don't. Kita did play well, though. But I knew he took out s0lstice the second he claimed that survivor bullcrap (although to be fair, MZ might already have been in the obsQT hollering that scum hadn't done that shot... don't remember in what order that happened) and wanted him DED. EDIT: actually I told Kita this a few times in PM already that I wanted him dead :D | ||
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