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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 13:13 GMT
#1425
On June 25 2013 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:12 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 05:34 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 05:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So we're no lynching because people are stubborn.

Great


^^ Great performance ^^


Guys, Guys. Maybe you all just misunderstand me. When I said "Great performance", I really meant "lol Meapak so obviously scum". Gimme confirmed town status. 100% proof here. Stop grouping me with creeps like Crossfire, geript, and Kurumi. It makes my skin crawl.

So how about this victory we're supposedly having right now.


Doesn't apply to scum. Sorry, should have been more clear.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 13:15 GMT
#1426
On June 25 2013 22:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:12 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 05:34 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 05:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So we're no lynching because people are stubborn.

Great


^^ Great performance ^^


Guys, Guys. Maybe you all just misunderstand me. When I said "Great performance", I really meant "lol Meapak so obviously scum". Gimme confirmed town status. 100% proof here. Stop grouping me with creeps like Crossfire, geript, and Kurumi. It makes my skin crawl.

So how about this victory we're supposedly having right now.


Doesn't apply to scum. Sorry, should have been more clear.


Well perhaps it does. I'll have to get back to you on that one.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 13:17 GMT
#1429
On June 25 2013 22:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
That's fine, I'll unvote you when your amazing things that confirm you town and win the game for town come true.


I said I'd consider letting you win! No need to be a jerk
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 13:18 GMT
#1432
On June 25 2013 22:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:17 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
That's fine, I'll unvote you when your amazing things that confirm you town and win the game for town come true.


I said I'd consider letting you win! No need to be a jerk

So you want to make scum win huh?

Sorry, not on board.


^^ Great Performance ^^

(It's the sarcasm again)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 13:28 GMT
#1437
Dandel just mad that his counter-campaign failed. You have no right to call me scum.

BECAUSE ONLY I CAN DO THE CALLING FROM MY MAGICAL PHONE BOOTH LOLOL
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 13:28 GMT
#1438
I find myself so amusing.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 13:40 GMT
#1440
I don't really. It just made my response more humorous if I said you were.

The carpet bombing list is actually pretty close to what I'm thinking (without me of course. You wouldn't want to harm me!)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 14:22 GMT
#1449
On June 25 2013 23:18 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
Well I can kill with lynching.

I can't dayvig dudes or anything.

As seen I am totally up for that. Kitaman27 was one of these baddies pushing me from the very start of their game so I hate them >:C


Might want to fact check yourself on that one.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#1452
On June 25 2013 23:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
It's really loving and peaceful.


I'm totally loving and peaceful too! We should be friends.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 16:00 GMT
#1474
So austin is voting for me because he disagrees my assessment that scummy players, not afk players should be vig shot. Solid as always.

BC is trying to put together a meta argument to call me scum without referencing a scum game. Unfortunately, I can only call him bad, rather than scum.

Time for Logic 101, with Professor Kita!

In game X, Kita was town.
Kita is not playing like game X.
Therefore, Kita is scum.

Who can spot the fallacy?

Anyways, I'll provide an explanation when I get out of work tonight.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 17:03 GMT
#1478
On June 26 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
For anyone halfway following, BC voted for kitaman yesterday, and I made kitaman a vet last night. He didn't claim it last night, which is fine, because announcing you're a vet sort of negates it. But he didn't say today "Hey guys, someone made me a vet last night," which is NOT cool because he's hiding information that doesn't really affect the game going forward.


Not sure what this is a reference to. I didn't receive any notification that I was a vet last night.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 17:24 GMT
#1480
Anyways, I'm a Survivor.

On June 22 2013 10:25 kitaman27 wrote:
I can't hold back.

##Vote gonzaw


Breadcrumbed it with my first post from everyone's favorite 80's hit single:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Can't_Hold_Back

My win condition is to obtain the TARDIS and survive until endgame. I managed to meet the first condition on night one so now I'm just along for the ride. I also baited the medic role that I created to protect me last night because I didn't want to claim until after the TARDIS was passed to me and getting picked off n1 would have been lame. I don't even have to hold the TARDIS at endgame, so I'll pass it off tonight as a sign of good faith.

I can win with either faction (so don't shoot me plz mafia), but based on how mafia likely started that ugly bandwagon on me to save austin, I'll offer town my services free of charge

I'm open to any investigative checks if you feel like wasting your night action, but it will return third party.

For the conspiracy theorists that think I planned this from the start, go away.

Please note, that if I post in text that is red or green, the message is intended only for the corresponding faction. If you are not part of this faction, I trust you to ignore it.

For example,

You guys should totally shoot BC instead of myself tonight.

Or

I think mafia is going to shoot BC. Just a hunch.

Good Luck!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 17:36 GMT
#1483
Also, big post to come, now that I don't have to worry about being night killed (I hope)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 17:40 GMT
#1485
It has a night action associated with it's passing. Sk8r can confirm.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 17:47 GMT
#1487
Wasn't going to claim until N2 to inform the mafia team not to night hit me, but then I got a bit too trolly so I figured I'd be better off claiming now.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 17:50 GMT
#1489
The TARDIS has either a medic or busdriver night action to pick from and then when you use it, it gets passed to the next player.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 18:27 GMT
#1491
I guess there is no harm at providing a list of everyone. It's not like I'll get killed for it.

gonzaw

gonzaw cared about who was going to be lynched on day one and that's one of the most important things I look for in town. Even if a mafia player has an interest in swapping the lynch, they usually don't want to be the head person in charge unless it's a bus, since it makes them look bad after the flip. With gonzaw trying to get votes to achieve a majority and typing in caps, it makes me feel like his interest was genuine.

austinmcc

Re-posting on how Meapak's actions likely implicated austin:

On June 25 2013 08:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 06:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh and to all the idiots talking about my "disapearence", I am on my phone, I was watching indycar and assumed that, with ten minutes left nothing was gonna happen and decided to come back after the day post.


I find this post really fishy from Meapak. He states that he assumed that nothing was going to happen with 10 minutes left, yet with that much time left the lynch hadn't been decided, sol just role claimed doctor, and we were obviously looking to consolidate to a player. I find it hard to believe that a scum veteran like Meapak would simply walk away at a time where we are scrambling for a lynch target. Only 2 minutes before the sol flip Meapak made a post, so its pretty convenient that he disappeared. When he returns, he makes no attempt to call the last minute austin bandwagon scummy nor does he return with a strong town read on austin, which makes me think he is positioning himself for the worst if we were to go after austin today.


He claims to want to push off the sk8r lynch because people he trust are reading sk8r differently. Why does it matter if someone like BC or Acro. A town austin would come to his own conclusions and then attempt to convince the person that disagrees with him to vote together. You don't push the lynch off because of a disagreement.

Take a look at this post about events of the end of day one: post

This post may look long and impressive, but it is 100% a summary. He hardly draws any conclusions or analysis based on the events. He doesn't call players scummy for voting him last minute, he doesn't call Meapak or geript town for not being around to hammer. Instead, he asks a few questions about crossfire, without really sharing an opinion about that either.

He was all aboard the Zeph lynch yesterday, but wasn't around to push it at the end of the day. Today he hasn't even mentioned Zeph. He hasn't mentioned if his read changed or anything. He votes me for weak reasoning.

WaveofShadow

It seems pretty silly for Meapak to spend so much time writing a case like that against Wave only to have it be a bus. It would have taken hours to write that up and as evidenced by his day one play, Meapak is usually too lazy/busy as scum to pull off something like that. I'm still not quite clear if he is still part of the game, but it's not worth my time to filter him to find out.

kitaman27

See! My name has green in it! That must mean I want to work together. I considered playing things out normally without claiming, playing the lurker card and contributing enough to not get lynched, but it was the night hits that I was really worried about. Even if I'm useless, I'm sometimes picked off for no real reason (aka Carnival) and I'd to be playing pretty sketchy to not be considered for a hit by day six or seven. At the point, everyone would go into paranoia mode about why I haven't been hit or why I haven't contributed, which would probably get me lynched. This would have been a lot easier as a smurf. -_-

BloodyC0bbler

Shot Meapak. Had his shot blocked yesterday. Town enough to not waste my time on him.

xxSK8rGUy277xx

My thoughts on him are pretty much in line with what I thought yesterday. You can replace "roleblock" with "shot refunded", but essentially they are the same thing.

Either BC is lying about the roleblock or the roleblocker anonymously saved Sk8rguy without claiming. Right now, I have a town read on BC due to the fact that he would have been making an unnecessary lie at little gain for himself. Plus the fact that there were multiple actions sent in leads me to believe the shot and block were real. The fact that the roleblocker has not claimed, makes me think that it was likely a scum roleblocker. If a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, he would have claimed to remove any unwarranted suspicion of Sk8r. A day blocker is hardly such a strong role in a game full of blues that it is worth a mislynch to keep your identity safe. The other alternative is that there is a scum roleblocker trying to save a town Sk8r in order to make him or BC look suspicious. From a mafia perspective, just letting Sk8r die would make more sense and make BC look bad in the process, which leads me to the conclusion that a scum roleblocker saved a scum Sk8r. Initially, I had a town read based on the way he was willing to attract attention to him by pushing BC and the way that he explained why he was using his role. However, based on the way that he moved off BC so easily explaining that he obviously wasn't going to get lynched and wanted to avoid a split vote is pretty scummy.

When crossfire explained to have created his role, it never explained why BC's shot was refunded. In fact, everyone is still in the dark about why sk8r is still alive if he wasn't responsible for saving himself. That likely means that either BC or sk8r is lying and sk8r is the obvious choice between the two. He claimed to been trying to draw a night hit, yet claims in the thread that he has a weak role.

THESE TWO STATEMENTS DIRECTLY CONTRADICT.

He also claims to have activated his day protect after BC's shot was refunded, which makes no sense. Why tell the thread?

At first, I was having second thoughts about him since he was given the TARDIS to start the game and it would be weird for the scum to start with it, but then I realized that it would make more sense with the TARDIS's built in mechanism to prevent the mafia team from passing it to each other night after night. Furthermore, sk8r failed to even mention the TARDIS to town, when it is such a strong ability.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 18:27 GMT
#1492
I'll finish with the other half when I have a chance.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 18:58 GMT
#1495
Can you wait so it activates on N2/D3?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 25 2013 20:58 GMT
#1534
On June 26 2013 05:38 geript wrote:
meh I wanna do shit
##Mortal kombat Kita and shit bongo bongo.


This creates a random vote thing from 3 ppl. Whoever has more votes gets killed and stuff.


That's not the correct trigger phrase, but are you seriously using your day-vig on the claimed survivor? Not only is that suboptimal play, its just cruel to me, making it essentially the only way I can't win the game now that I have the TARDIS.

On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote:
(1) kita is super worried about NKs, despite their being players who look far more townie / are doing more pro-town stuff with their activity. He's been around a long time, but so have other players this game, so it's not a case of him just getting popped for being veteran-y


Oh really? I shouldn't have to worry about night kills even if I'm only half active? That's exactly when the mafia team goes after you when there are no medics.

On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote:
(2) kita was going to wait and claim N2 because ... he didn't want to be NKed. He could have claimed immediately if that's his only concern. Again, according to him, once he got the TARDIS, all he does is try to survive. No reason to wait 48 hours before saying "Oh hey guys, I'm a survivor, mafia please don't kill me."


lol I was breadcrumbing survivor all day.

"victory is at hand" --> in reference to receiving the tardis

"Victory only applies to town, or does it, I'll have to get back to you?" --> in reference to being able to win with both factions

It's not like I can ask for the TARDIS with my super plan and hope the thread forgets about it for 5 cycles. I was obviously planning to claim.

On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote:
(3) I still actually really dislike the not vigging snb comments. They don't jive AT ALL with what I understand to be conventional wisdom held by respected players.


Show me a respected player that disagrees with my assessment that scummy players should be vig shot. Cmon now, you're just terrible.

On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote:
Hey hey, again, important. Kita as 3P survivor has no reason to care whether or not snb gets shot. No matter who is vigged, kita is 1 person closer to fulfilling his wincon. But he picks a fight over that, like, seriously responds to your comments. His response there is no a 3P survivor response. It's the response of someone concerned with what happens to other players.


Just because I'm 3P doesn't mean that I'm completely useless. I'm not Palmar after all. I still share town's best interest at heart.

On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote:
He's not a survivor. He didn't claim the moment he could have, for a bad reason. He expressed interest in things that a survivor wouldn't care about.


So I breadcrumbed survivor in my first post, came up with an elaborate story about needing the TARDIS to obtain the 1 night medic protection, and then claimed for giggles? BC made it completely clear that he thought I was siding with thread sentiment on day one. That completely matches the actions of a survivor. You on the other hand are scum.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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