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On June 25 2013 03:30 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 25 2013 02:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
So explain your townread on geript. Because he has not done anything I see as anything other than town? The worst bit he has done is his vote while he said he was "gone" However who cares? He voted for someone who was virtually more likely to flip mafia (in my eyes) than a last minute rushed wagon. hes pressured people for reasons that I would, etc.. In short he has done nothing major to make me see him in any light other than town. Could I be wrong? yes, however unless someone knows geripts playstyle 100% they will have to explain how hes magically scum when hes done far more this game to help than he has whenever ive seen him as scum. He essentially voted for the no-lynch. Don't sugarcoat that part.
So?
No lynches aren't bad if the person you try to lynch is town. To be honest based purely on flips, gonza and xat look the single worst in the thread (more or less) for being the ones to push a lynch on someone who has flipped town.
or how about kita whos entire list of suspects in this game has followed thread sentiment? as well as attempting to draw at least 2 role uses towards himself.
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On June 25 2013 03:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 25 2013 02:58 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 25 2013 02:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also, xat.
The reason i view sk8s ability use as not townlike is this.
He has actively had posts that are heavily heavily anti town. He actively admitted to trolling, and lying about reads. Denying to give his reads when he could have died as it "was people fishing"
He then near instantly starts claiming my shot was fake and proceeds to toss suspicion on me for it when he would know his power was responsible for him not dying. Given the fact he openly admitted to wanting to get shot, and has been behaving overall as someone attempting to take a vig bullet, I would put him down as a scum read. Just because he has a self defense power and that he came out and admitted it WELL AFTER a situation while using the role as a reason to call bullshit and clutter the thread even more.
Kita and Meapak both need to post more. Still pressuring me. Did someone write an Executioner role that can also day vig? My self defense power does not roleblock you or return your bullet which is why I think you are lying or someone else saved me. Just so everyone knows, I am Sally Sparrow, town aligned, and used my ability during the day. I will be using my ability AGAIN tonight.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain So let me get this straight? You are a town aligned role that can make shots not work on you (refunded to holder) and can use this role, every half cycle? You can call me a liar, I know what PM I got from the hosts. So far only you have claimed a power that could stop my shot (mafia could clearly be hiding behind this fact and not claiming a block). However, you role use to save yourself is an alignment null. Anyone in your position would try to avoid dying town or mafia. your behaviour is what I find horrifically scummy. The fact you knew you used a role to avoid death, immediately claimed bullshit on my shot well before hosts had even started trying to sort out roles, is baffling. You then after hosts has resolved and I stated what happened were still harping on fake shot and bullshit. You actively have lied, trolled and admitted to these things. Again, my role does not return a bullet to you which is what confirmed to me that you lied OR that someone else targeted you. Your scum hunting skill is what I find to be horrifically bad. Basically you think because I'm trolling that I am scum. All your other arguments are poor and just based off your tunnelling.
you lied
you trolled
you have said pushing anti town players day 1 is bad
you have played in a way to draw town shots
These are 4 of my main reasons for not liking you. This isn't me tunneling you anymore. This is me looking at a player who has done fucking nothing all game. You still don't scumhunt. You spend time defending yourself more than anything else. You know what? If you scumhunt or appear to be doing things that help the town, people wont look at you. You have not changed your behaviour in my eyes at all since all the shit went down between us. As such you are still firmly red.
Difference is? i am also looking at other people. Also given that I think you are scum, I don't believe you on how you say your role works. Nothing xfire said clears you of suspicion.
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On June 25 2013 03:39 gonzaw wrote:Okay, FINALLY So BC; what about kita? You think he's scummy scummy scum? Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 25 2013 03:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 25 2013 02:58 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 25 2013 02:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also, xat.
The reason i view sk8s ability use as not townlike is this.
He has actively had posts that are heavily heavily anti town. He actively admitted to trolling, and lying about reads. Denying to give his reads when he could have died as it "was people fishing"
He then near instantly starts claiming my shot was fake and proceeds to toss suspicion on me for it when he would know his power was responsible for him not dying. Given the fact he openly admitted to wanting to get shot, and has been behaving overall as someone attempting to take a vig bullet, I would put him down as a scum read. Just because he has a self defense power and that he came out and admitted it WELL AFTER a situation while using the role as a reason to call bullshit and clutter the thread even more.
Kita and Meapak both need to post more. Still pressuring me. Did someone write an Executioner role that can also day vig? My self defense power does not roleblock you or return your bullet which is why I think you are lying or someone else saved me. Just so everyone knows, I am Sally Sparrow, town aligned, and used my ability during the day. I will be using my ability AGAIN tonight.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain So let me get this straight? You are a town aligned role that can make shots not work on you (refunded to holder) and can use this role, every half cycle? You can call me a liar, I know what PM I got from the hosts. So far only you have claimed a power that could stop my shot (mafia could clearly be hiding behind this fact and not claiming a block). However, you role use to save yourself is an alignment null. Anyone in your position would try to avoid dying town or mafia. your behaviour is what I find horrifically scummy. The fact you knew you used a role to avoid death, immediately claimed bullshit on my shot well before hosts had even started trying to sort out roles, is baffling. You then after hosts has resolved and I stated what happened were still harping on fake shot and bullshit. You actively have lied, trolled and admitted to these things. Again, my role does not return a bullet to you which is what confirmed to me that you lied OR that someone else targeted you. Your scum hunting skill is what I find to be horrifically bad. Basically you think because I'm trolling that I am scum. All your other arguments are poor and just based off your tunnelling. See? You just had to say that single line to make things clearer instead of making everybody confused as fuck about this whole shit. That does indeed make things interesting. Kurumi might have something to do with that, if not one of you is lying (although this kind of seems improbable, there's little reason for scum to lie with pointless shit like this) Also sk8 please thoughts on someone other than BC as well
I think kita is fishy as fuck. Look at his filter? He voted austin and sol but never provided any reasoning on why he views either as scum. His only solid analysis post ever is on sk8r. Again when sk8r was peak of thread sentiment. Hes not trying to push lynches, hes sheeping them.
Also this looks horrible.
On June 24 2013 04:18 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 04:17 s0Lstice wrote:On June 24 2013 04:13 kitaman27 wrote:On June 24 2013 04:09 s0Lstice wrote:
Why the hell would I try to explain what happened to the roleblocker? I can make up a bunch of scenarios where the two of them can be either alignment based on what happened with the roleblocker, and not have any idea which is more likely, because its flippin PTP. I'm reading them like I'm not in PTP...like I said before, the old fashioned way. I kinda think you didn't even read my filter dude, because I've been over this. So it is your opinion that a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, but will not claim because he wants to see Sk8r burn at the stake? Or that a mafia roleblocker saved Sk9r because he wanted to lynch him rather than vig him? oh this is fun ...or one of the million lurkers we have has an automatic dayvig shutdown and hasn't been around to say anything about it or isn't caring/is checked out to the point that they don't realize that information would be pertinant right now? Like Xfire? your focus on this is silly
So you're saying that there was a town dayblocker that happened to be around in time to save Sk8r, but hasn't returned in the thread since? That's a silly explanation.[/QUOTE]
On June 24 2013 04:44 Crossfire99 wrote:
Sigh...I didn't want to have to do this, but looking at the voting thread and thread sentiment I have to speak up. I created sk8r's role and know how he survived his shot. That is all. Now lynch someone besides him because I don't think he is mafia.
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On June 25 2013 03:45 gonzaw wrote:
##Silence: BC
##Silence: sk8
STOP arguing with each other for a few moments, and interact with us.
If you two could answer my questions then I'd be happy
Know that I charge you 100$ each for the counseling sessions, so you better make the most of it!
im capable of talking to multiple people at once while im around.
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If mz keeps posting like this I will think hes town not mafia, excellent.
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On June 25 2013 03:50 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 25 2013 03:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 25 2013 03:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 25 2013 02:58 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 25 2013 02:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also, xat.
The reason i view sk8s ability use as not townlike is this.
He has actively had posts that are heavily heavily anti town. He actively admitted to trolling, and lying about reads. Denying to give his reads when he could have died as it "was people fishing"
He then near instantly starts claiming my shot was fake and proceeds to toss suspicion on me for it when he would know his power was responsible for him not dying. Given the fact he openly admitted to wanting to get shot, and has been behaving overall as someone attempting to take a vig bullet, I would put him down as a scum read. Just because he has a self defense power and that he came out and admitted it WELL AFTER a situation while using the role as a reason to call bullshit and clutter the thread even more.
Kita and Meapak both need to post more. Still pressuring me. Did someone write an Executioner role that can also day vig? My self defense power does not roleblock you or return your bullet which is why I think you are lying or someone else saved me. Just so everyone knows, I am Sally Sparrow, town aligned, and used my ability during the day. I will be using my ability AGAIN tonight.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain So let me get this straight? You are a town aligned role that can make shots not work on you (refunded to holder) and can use this role, every half cycle? You can call me a liar, I know what PM I got from the hosts. So far only you have claimed a power that could stop my shot (mafia could clearly be hiding behind this fact and not claiming a block). However, you role use to save yourself is an alignment null. Anyone in your position would try to avoid dying town or mafia. your behaviour is what I find horrifically scummy. The fact you knew you used a role to avoid death, immediately claimed bullshit on my shot well before hosts had even started trying to sort out roles, is baffling. You then after hosts has resolved and I stated what happened were still harping on fake shot and bullshit. You actively have lied, trolled and admitted to these things. Again, my role does not return a bullet to you which is what confirmed to me that you lied OR that someone else targeted you. Your scum hunting skill is what I find to be horrifically bad. Basically you think because I'm trolling that I am scum. All your other arguments are poor and just based off your tunnelling. you liedyou trolled
you have said pushing anti town players day 1 is bad
you have played in a way to draw town shotsThese are 4 of my main reasons for not liking you. This isn't me tunneling you anymore. This is me looking at a player who has done fucking nothing all game. You still don't scumhunt. You spend time defending yourself more than anything else. You know what? If you scumhunt or appear to be doing things that help the town, people wont look at you. You have not changed your behaviour in my eyes at all since all the shit went down between us. As such you are still firmly red. Difference is? i am also looking at other people. Also given that I think you are scum, I don't believe you on how you say your role works. Nothing xfire said clears you of suspicion. Everything bolded is wrong. Where have I lied? I was mislead/confused about how the shot went down. There was no lie. Also their is a fundamental flaw in the way you guys are scum hunting. If you go and tunnel everything someones posting, tell them that's why you think they are being scummy. Then they will defend it and try to fix it. Which will just make it harder to pinpoint them as scum later. I get my reads, hold them until I am sure and then post it. That way there is no wiggling out for the scum. It also makes me more of a threat to Mafia since they do not know if my reads are going to condemn them or not. @Austin I can explain the cryptic posts to a degree if you would like.
How is the bolded wrong? You have
A) given scumreads then said you didnt actually have any and they werent your reads
B) have actively said you were trolling (this is anti town) ie you are attempting to draw shots. You have done nothing to help town so only vigis would shoot you
C)
On June 23 2013 09:05 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 08:47 geript wrote:On June 23 2013 07:50 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I am not seeing what makes you think he is asusming BC and myself are town. He was comparing BC to another game and saying if he is town, he is not playing well. Dandel would assume that BC would not continue to play poorly and instead concluded that he is scum. *My interpretation, Dandel may have been thinking something else. In LXI BC played terribly and gave the game to scum on a silver platter. The assumption is that he's playing badly again and therefor town. But if he's playing badly and shoots you, that impugns that you're town (shooting scum d1 is good play obviously). On June 23 2013 06:59 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Berating a vigi who will kill people that are anti town is in hopes that he will not continue day killing for no reason. A very pro town thing. However, since Dandel is in the same position as me i.e. Threatened by an over-emotional vigi. It makes sense that he is going to call him out on making a bad decision. The thing is as a vigi, you're supposed to kill anti town elements. How is it that you've come out of this whole D1 shot scenario with the fact that Dandel is town instead of trying to get a better read on BC or be able to build a good case on BC being scum? The first thing sounds good. The second part - Killing anti town is not the same as killing scum. I will disagree with you there. Even if he believed I was anti town, acting on it day one is a poor move. I did post the new reads on BC after I believed it was fake, you are quoting only my most recent post. While it's possible that someone created a role that can roleblock after something happened. I don't see any reason why someone wouldn't admit to at least making the role. I will say that I did not make that role. I initially thought perhaps there was a day healer, but I had no message about being attacked, and dismissed that. Until someone claims that they created a role that can either roleblock someone after they declared their action (which btw is a terrible role. Seeing as it only affects day abilities. Be ashamed of yourself for giving someone that) then I think it is fake. I know for sure I was not attacked and healed. What I conclude - BC attempted to confuse me into revealing information about my role before death by faking a vigi kill and that he picked the role for himself, which is notably convenient. His reasoning was because I'm a troll and anti-town and that killing me early would prevent me from hurting the game in the future, by comparing me to other players who have apparently done this. I would like to say again, trying to Meta an unknown player and comparing me to players you know is not going to give you a good idea of my playstyle. I am curious why other players are not seeing him as scummy after all this? Perhaps scum protecting. Killing someone you think is a town because they posted something anti-town is even more Anti town. @Solstice, what is your opinion on BC, and me while you are at it?
See bolded. You also lie in this post about me trying to confuse you into revealing information. I was actively asking you to post your reads, and give justification for things. I still think you are more likely to be mafia than town, I do think there is a slight chance you flip town. Why? Because town play terribly like this a lot.
Seriously dude. Start posting new information. I may be "tunnelling" you but at least I am also looking at other people.
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Gonzaw I remember now why I like you so much
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Do I still want sk8r to eat a bullet/lynch? Yes. I know a few others deserving of the same treatment.
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On June 25 2013 04:26 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Do I still want sk8r to eat a bullet/lynch? Yes. I know a few others deserving of the same treatment. Okay.. Great. Let's put it this way: is sk8r still your #1 priority right now? What if it was close between WOS/sk8r? And what if it was close between WOS and someone else than sk8r?
atm, kita is pretty high on my list. I keep harping on sk8r because he keeps posting his bullshit. -_- Hes likely tied for my #1 read atm
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On June 25 2013 04:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 25 2013 04:26 Xatalos wrote:On June 25 2013 04:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Do I still want sk8r to eat a bullet/lynch? Yes. I know a few others deserving of the same treatment. Okay.. Great. Let's put it this way: is sk8r still your #1 priority right now? What if it was close between WOS/sk8r? And what if it was close between WOS and someone else than sk8r? atm, kita is pretty high on my list. I keep harping on sk8r because he keeps posting his bullshit. -_- Hes likely tied for my #1 read atm Hmm. Kitaman.. Didn't really look at him yet. Next on to-do. But what about WOS? Isn't he up there at all? Or even on the scummy category?
I have him more or less null at the moment. He has done stuff that looks fucking bad, but hes also done stuff that looks good. If not for Meapaks analysis post right now how many people would put him as a #1 scum read? hes done very little since the lynch and thus you would think if he was this heavily suspected would have been pushed as an option over austin.
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On June 25 2013 05:02 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:59 kitaman27 wrote:On June 25 2013 04:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
BC, since your shot has been refunded, why did you never try shooting anybody else? lol that's actually a really good question. Furthermore, why not shoot sk8r again?
cant use til day 2. Which is why i thought roleblock not just refund
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On June 25 2013 06:28 Xatalos wrote:Wait a minute. Are you Vig + Detective??
yes =)
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On June 25 2013 06:30 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 06:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 25 2013 06:28 Xatalos wrote:On June 25 2013 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Meapak is mafia Wait a minute. Are you Vig + Detective?? yes =) That sounds really overpowered. Hmm. Well, we have to lynch A) you or B) Meapak now. I liked Meapak's case on WOS but he's been lurking otherwise. Brb rereading filters.
Its not as OP as you think
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Jack the ripper has claimed another victim
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On June 25 2013 06:37 Xatalos wrote:I'm starting to think that my role is underpowered  Damn it, Vig+DT.... That's so good.
 1 shot vig, but meh.
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Also, for all those who used a power last night. Well, hide under your desk cause the gun of slots is aimed at you
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and exact check result was "not town" so he might flip third party -_-
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On June 25 2013 06:44 geript wrote:
Are you subject to sanities? You know because the last game we played...
I built the role to be absolute. So basically a miller or gf will dodge me if those were included in this game.
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On June 25 2013 06:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
You wouldn't be told if it was nerfed though, as I understand it.
Since sanities are not usually in the role PM.
id be told if I had to rework it. I put my own "nerfs" into the role to avoid that situation.
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