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Like, the ONLY ONLY ONLY way Xfire can be scum, is if:
Hosts know that today is 2v2 and we NL. But austin is town, and thus can give me either a vet, or a vig, or a medic, etc, so I can kill scum kita/Xfire tonight.
So hosts felt this was a possibility, and with this possibility maybe town has a chance to win (maybe?), so they felt they should keep the game going on.
But that only if Xfire didn't steal kitaman's vote (or anybody's vote for that matter).
As scum, Xfire could have just used the Tazer (I proted him last night so I would have died), or use the VoteThief on me for instance, to insta win as scum (and that would be a 100% win GG from scum, not this "prolonged win" they may have been having right now if what I said above is true)...
....so yeah, Xfire confirmed town.
So austin, would you like claiming 3P now maybe? Maybe you could battle with kita to see who's the real survivor?
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On July 01 2013 06:16 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 06:15 gonzaw wrote:
Hosts, how much do you plan in advance to determine if a faction won?
For instance, if it's 2v2 or something, then do you plan stuff like "Well, scum and town have equal numbers, but they would NL, therefore we have to take into account every possibility every single townie and scum can do on N4 to determine if scum have already won the game or not" or stuff like that?
Or do you just see "2v2, nothing will change that soon, bleh scum win" ?
I mean, same principle if it's 2v2, or 2v1v1, etc
From OP: Show nested quote +Alignments:
The Alliance
You win when all Anti-Town forces are dead.
The Church
You win when all Town forces are dead.
?????
You win if you are alive at the end of the game and have fulfilled your victory condition.
So...if this was something like 4 townies and 10000000 scum, the game STILL goes on until those 4 townies die?
I was ALWAYS under the impression hosts did "hidden calculations" to determine automatic wins when it's impossible another faction can win.
That's why the whole "you win when scum equal town" win condition, because if scum equal town scum win 100% (in games with that win con that are normal at least).
I thought something similar would have happened now.
If town has already lost and you hosts are just prolonging my suffering making me feel like we have a chance...I'll never forget ;_;
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Xfire, we haven't won yet. We kill kita today, but tonight it'll be austin+you+me.
If austin is indeed scum and not 3P or some shit (I honestly don't know right now I've done clearly thinking about this shit since Xata flipped), then we need to enter the WIFOM game to see if we can still win
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On July 01 2013 06:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 06:18 gonzaw wrote:
Like, the ONLY ONLY ONLY way Xfire can be scum, is if:
Hosts know that today is 2v2 and we NL. But austin is town, and thus can give me either a vet, or a vig, or a medic, etc, so I can kill scum kita/Xfire tonight.
So hosts felt this was a possibility, and with this possibility maybe town has a chance to win (maybe?), so they felt they should keep the game going on.
But that only if Xfire didn't steal kitaman's vote (or anybody's vote for that matter).
As scum, Xfire could have just used the Tazer (I proted him last night so I would have died), or use the VoteThief on me for instance, to insta win as scum (and that would be a 100% win GG from scum, not this "prolonged win" they may have been having right now if what I said above is true)...
....so yeah, Xfire confirmed town.
So austin, would you like claiming 3P now maybe? Maybe you could battle with kita to see who's the real survivor? If you're convinced, then alright.
Okay
Nice we could reach an understanding
Hey austin, I wouldn't mind you giving me a medic or vig tonight again 
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On July 01 2013 06:24 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 06:20 gonzaw wrote:On July 01 2013 06:16 deconduo wrote:On July 01 2013 06:15 gonzaw wrote:
Hosts, how much do you plan in advance to determine if a faction won?
For instance, if it's 2v2 or something, then do you plan stuff like "Well, scum and town have equal numbers, but they would NL, therefore we have to take into account every possibility every single townie and scum can do on N4 to determine if scum have already won the game or not" or stuff like that?
Or do you just see "2v2, nothing will change that soon, bleh scum win" ?
I mean, same principle if it's 2v2, or 2v1v1, etc
From OP: Alignments:
The Alliance
You win when all Anti-Town forces are dead.
The Church
You win when all Town forces are dead.
?????
You win if you are alive at the end of the game and have fulfilled your victory condition. So...if this was something like 4 townies and 10000000 scum, the game STILL goes on until those 4 townies die? I was ALWAYS under the impression hosts did "hidden calculations" to determine automatic wins when it's impossible another faction can win. That's why the whole "you win when scum equal town" win condition, because if scum equal town scum win 100% (in games with that win con that are normal at least). I thought something similar would have happened now. If town has already lost and you hosts are just prolonging my suffering making me feel like we have a chance...I'll never forget ;_; If the result was 100% set in stone, I would end the game. However due to the wide variety of roles and powers, there's almost always a chance for one faction to come out on top no matter what the situation is. Also its possible to reach a point where town has lost but can influence whether scum or 3rd party wins for example. That's why the wincons are defined as such.
Okay...
...I guess I had my hopes up a little too much. So town can still lose
*sigh* oh well, let's see what happens then.
Xfire, if you are scum or 3P or some shit and town already lost...please don't prolong this shit by making it seem you are town or something.....just don't
If that's the case, no need to rub it in my face any more than all of you have done so already.
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Sorry dude I got a little bit too excited 
I thought we would lose dude, please understand ;_;
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On July 01 2013 06:30 austinmcc wrote:
Oh crap. You can't wait a day and let me de-bear?
no
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On July 01 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote:
Gonzaw, why'd you have to steal my thunder? This was my plan all along. I messed up what item e was lol, but I figured I had to do this action because it was the only chance.
Goddamit dude >_>
I'll try making it clearer next time I guess?
But I gave you like 10000 story transcripts to find the event lol
Also, hopefully I or you get the TARDIS now after kita dies
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On July 01 2013 06:32 austinmcc wrote:
FINE.
But next PTP, my role is going to achieve it's stupid win conditions.
Well, apparently you made that role yourself, so you can only blame yourself for your "stupid win conditions"
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On July 01 2013 06:33 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 06:31 gonzaw wrote:Sorry dude I got a little bit too excited I thought we would lose dude, please understand ;_; No big deals, dude. We still have got a chance this game, especially with the item I got *vroom* *vroom*
he
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On July 01 2013 06:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Dear mafia,
Just a reminder:
The Church
You win when all Town forces are dead.
It's impossible for me to be a serial killer.
Why are you speaking to them in thread? Weren't you communicating with them secretly?
Also you might as well just say "Dear austin" by this point, wouldn't you?
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On July 01 2013 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
geript is kinda dead.
Use your day mason on austin then
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On July 01 2013 06:43 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:On July 01 2013 06:36 Crossfire99 wrote:On July 01 2013 06:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Dear mafia,
Just a reminder:
The Church
You win when all Town forces are dead.
It's impossible for me to be a serial killer. You're dead. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Perhaps, but you guys owe me for the three shots While I don't recommend trusting kita... HI THERE GONZAW ARE YOU SURE THAT CROSSFIRE IS NOT MAFIA?
OMG I AM NOT YOU CONVINCED ME
##Unvote
##Vote: Xfire
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Xfire, austin just proved you are scum, stop waffling you got caught
GG
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So austin, Xfire is 100% scum and shit and we already lost
So, with post-game just a couple of hours away, would you mind telling me this "game-changing" shit you were talking about last night?
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##Vote: 24 hour day phase
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On July 01 2013 07:30 kitaman27 wrote:
##I object
Hey kita, would you mind passing me the TARDIS before dying?
kthxbyedie
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Wait, scum already had it 2 phases in a row (D3 and N3), shouldn't it have been given to a random townie this D4? I don't have it.
Like...unless kita is really 3P lol
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EPT
