• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:47
CEST 02:47
KST 09:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202552RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams7Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 660 users

PTP IV - Demon's Run - Page 20

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 43 Next All
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 18:50 GMT
#2318
Hey, also know how nobody claimed who made kita's role?

I'll give you the complete role list now:

Xfire -> Sk8
Sk8 -> gonzaw
gonzaw -> Xfire

austin -> austin
BC -> BC

Xatalos -> kitaman
kitaman -> geript
geript -> WOS
WOS -> Dandel
Dandel -> Zephirdd
Zephirdd -> Xatalos

Kurumi -> strongandbig
strongandbig -> ??

Acrofales -> s0lstice
s0lstice -> ??

Meapak_Ziphh -> ??

MZ made the role of either Kurumi or Acro
solstice made the role of either Kurumi, Acro or MZ
SNB made the role of either Kurumi, Acro or MZ
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 18:54 GMT
#2320
On June 29 2013 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah or it's simply geript-Xata-MZ-kita scum team


No because scum kita has no way to know about how TARDIS works if town sk8 and town Xfire never told him.
Although....since Xatalos made kita's role, kita could have a role like this:
You can check the role of any player at the day phase


Maybe he used that check on sk8 and figured out the Tardis shit
Maybe he did it on sk8 because sk8 was talking so much about how he could confirm everybody as town, thus scum may have wanted to know wtf that was about. As soon as kita got confirmation about the tardis on N1, scum talked a lot in scum QT about what to do, they decided to have kita claim the "give me the tardis!" thing (which was NOT early N1, but kind of late) and play along

Certainly possible. I mean, kita hasn't done shit with his role yet, therefore it's unlikely it's aggressive, it may have been investigative
So maybe this IS what actually happened.

.....but well my "Xata PMed kita" thing makes sense as well
Mostly because kita "claimed" geript could protect him at night and shit, if geript's role actually does that then it doesn't make much sense for scum kita to say that (unless scum made that part up so we think geript can protect kita)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:02 GMT
#2323
Isn't getting us anywhere? It made us figure out the game you dummit!

But yes.

BC, you can shoot Xata who is like 99% scum by now. Every piece in the board fits with him being mafia, not so much him being town.

Alternatively shoot kita. However I'm wary of doing that in case he really has protection from geript.

Also any of them can have the TARDIS so the TARDIS doesn't matter to decide your shot.

Hey Xfire, so yes, keep the Rubber Duck, and choose option (1)
I'm not so sure what you can choose tonight. You already used the Gun which would have allowed you to get the "Best Ending" and a super awesome thing that could have won us the game.

Hmm, I'll have to think about it. But one thing is for sure: Once you get the item for the Ending of the story, DONT CLAIM WHAT IT DOES.
I know what it does, you know what it does, nobody else needs to know so (specially with the exact items you could get). Once the time comes we can discuss what to do with it if you want
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:05 GMT
#2324
Actually we may figure out if kita is scum or 3P by looking at his behaviour pre-claim and post-claim.
...volunteers?

Here are the conclusions though:
1) If kita is scum, he has some sort of "rolecheck" ability he used on Sk8 on D1/N1
2) If kita is 3P, then he most likely was acting as a survivor until his claim, when he was contacted by scum mason Xata, and then started acting like scum
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:08 GMT
#2326
I have an idea....

...austin, did you choose "vig" in some choices?
I want both Medic/Vig and gonzaw/BC to be chosen just like yesterday.
...I think we might need that vig ability instead.

Hmm...although it's kind of a risk. BIG RISK.
It has something to do with an ability of the EWW.
Damn why didn't I make that ability more OP

Can I change an ability of the Ewok Whisperer Whistle after inventing it? >_>
I....I just didn't balance it correctly <_<
Surely you can understand, right hosts? -_-
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:08 GMT
#2327
On June 29 2013 04:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
Not me.


WOS then

Come on WOS! I found the perfect activity for a tree stump!
Tree stumps love to read and analyze shit right? THIS IS THE JOB FOR YOU
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:14 GMT
#2331
I should have made an invention that if you can PM the host the alignments of all players still alive, if you get it right then your faction instantly wins.

..wait, in what scenario are we in? 5v3, 4v3 or 6v3?
Can we just not use any night action at all perhaps and lynch every scum in succession and that's it? Maybe I'm getting too worried about finishing this fast

Xata is a threat for sure, he should die before he can use his day vig.
after that we can.

....I have ANOTHER IDEA

BC; as soon as you get here use Kna Naa
Then we all vote to lynch Xatalos.

After that scum will likely have just 1 nightly KP and nothing else
Then we lynch geript and kita in succession

BUt this can only work if BC gets here before Xatalos
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:15 GMT
#2332
BC; as soon as you get here use Kna Naa

Read that ability correctly, and read what I said about Xata and his role.
You know this is the correct way to do this, we will win 99%

We don't even need to use a vig tonight with that (using vig might make it so scum bus it into a townie).
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:18 GMT
#2333
We actually have another way to do this:

First, I'll assume geript's role is useless for now, or has no KP at least

The question is: Are you guys afraid kita can have a hidden KP or something?

If the answer is yes, after BC uses Kna Kna we lynch kita, then I'll tell you guys what to do tonight
If the answer is no, after BC uses Kna Kna we lynch Xatalos, then we proceed normally lynching geript+kita
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:18 GMT
#2335
Trust me guys, we can win 100% with this....well...in normal circumstances.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:24 GMT
#2338
Hmm, we are at 6v3? Wouldn't even be MYLO right? If scum have no additional KP we wouldn't have to worry, right?
...hmm, I am worried about additional scum KP though (Xata's day vig for instance).

Maybe I'm getting too excited yes, you guys tell me

Also if kita is actually scum then my "role list" thing may differ (since someone else could have created kita's role, like snb maybe, and Xatalos could have made MZ's role for instance)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:29 GMT
#2340
On June 29 2013 04:25 kitaman27 wrote:
I'd like to put this out there: What if BC shot Meapak and provided a red check on geript, just to gain town cred and never get suspected? He loves to pull out the wild plans as scum so it is certainly something to consider.


Nah Xata scum

Another reason: When both austin and BC claimed they made their own roles, Xata didn't even bat an eye
If you made your own role, wouldn't you be a little suspicious other 2 players claimed the same? Wouldn't you claim you made your own role as well and see if you could find a liar?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:32 GMT
#2343
Yeah, kita lately has been piling up the pro-town contributions quite a bit
I think we are all wrong and he's town yo
He just misread his role PM, that's all
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:38 GMT
#2347
On June 29 2013 04:31 kitaman27 wrote:
I can't believe I didn't think of this until now.

WoS must be a redwood.


WOS makes my wood red, if you know what I mean.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:43 GMT
#2349
On June 29 2013 04:39 geript wrote:
Hey. WoS luv tunnel is all mine. Hands off. Besides I thought I gave you redwood snicker doodle.


Yes you do!
It's just....well...with WOS being a tree stump and all....I just....feel it more, ya know?
....no no no dont' worry wubbywomb! It happens to a lot of scum! It's nothing really.
...if you want we can go see a doctor...but I'm not pushing you or anything I swear! We'll do whatever you want!
...but if you DO want we could go.....yes yes my wobble-gobble don't worry
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:50 GMT
#2351
On June 29 2013 04:48 Crossfire99 wrote:
ok gonzaw, i'll search the kitchen (option 1). I also hadn't thought of that day rolecop idea which would explain a lot.


Okay.
As always, post a transcript of the initial part of the story so I know you chose that option and not another one
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 19:56 GMT
#2354
austin, what exact roles can you use in that poll thing?
Can it work as an inventor where you can choose whatever role you want or maybe create one?

Or did you send those polls already?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2364
On June 29 2013 04:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Only reason I say this, is im pretty sure the gun of slots raped zeph day 1


Yes, using it at night is a random risk

But you can use it now.
We just need to avoid Xata using his day vig...that's all we need to do to win

Then I dunno who to lynch first, geript kita or Xata.
I'd say Xata in case he doesn't use his day vig and can use it on D4.
We don't know kita's role, so his may be dangerous
Although geript is the only 100% sure scum...

choices choices
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2367
On June 29 2013 05:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Theres an easy way to explain a ton of this. Gonza, does xfires role include a dayvig shot he could have had for day 1? if not, xat or kita must be scum or both are.


No

He could have gotten a super day vig with 2 shots on N3
But he can't know because he already used the Empty Gun
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 28 2013 20:16 GMT
#2369
Zepphird said something about the day vig repleneshing the bullet after 1 day. Someone brought up the quote a little while ago I think it was austin
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 43 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 224
StarCraft: Brood War
sSak 69
Sexy 57
NaDa 41
ivOry 15
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1318
League of Legends
Dendi1013
JimRising 332
syndereN168
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe300
Other Games
summit1g15053
tarik_tv6617
Day[9].tv777
shahzam664
ViBE259
C9.Mang0175
ToD153
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 115
• davetesta48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 29
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv777
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
10h 13m
Serral vs Cure
Solar vs Classic
OSC
13h 13m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 9h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 13h
CSO Cup
1d 15h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 17h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.