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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 00:09 GMT
#188
Shush or I'll poison you once (not twice, just once)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 01:37 GMT
#207
##Poison: kita

Now you have waken the wrath
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 03:00 GMT
#233
It seems you've got a resistance to my poison, kita.
Too bad I was just one-shot so I have no other poison, FML

Acro your plan doesn't make sense, but that's okay everybody makes mistakes.
It only works if the guy that claims who he made the role to dies, so we know we can't 100% trust what that character will claim....but that doesn't really work out for us (we still can't know shit, different than if someone just claims alone without anybody claiming to whom they created the role), also yeah scum can kill him and put us in that exact situation

Scum please don't kill ma nigga, he has lots of potential for this game, if he dies early the magic will be lost.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 03:04 GMT
#235
YOU HEAR ME SCUM? DONT KILL HIM
EVEN IF IM SCUM. IF I WAS SCUM I WONT LISTEN TO YOU AGAIN LIKE I DID LAST GAME (I should have shot marv instead for convincing me to kill austin!).

There is more in stake in this game than a simple win.
You wouldn't dare shoot Martin Luther King Jr just to win against him at Mario Kart, would you?

I have a dream...
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 03:07 GMT
#238
So now I'll just slip into the darkness until I can make a huge ass case on someone (hopefully I nail scum again)....
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 03:09 GMT
#239
On June 22 2013 11:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
except you did try and give me some and i refused.

Also, saying the name you made a role for could ultimately be retarded as someone could have ended up designing their own role.


lol
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 04:26 GMT
#261
On June 22 2013 13:16 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 13:14 geript wrote:
You're tryharding right now.

And?


Try Hard

Try Hard 2: Try Harder

Try Hard with a Vengeance

Lynch Free or Try Hard

A Good Day to Try Hard
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 04:40 GMT
#263
Someone should just use a day vig or something.

Does nobody give someone else a day vig power? You guys are boring
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 04:49 GMT
#266
Well, at least the guy that has my role is not boring

Teach them how it's done boy!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 05:29 GMT
#268
On June 22 2013 14:21 Zephirdd wrote:
wtf is happening

ill try to make some sense of this tomorrow

guys just because we have weird roles doesnt mean we need to play like idiots



on another note, caipirinha is really good. You all should try it if you havent.


I drink that shit by the gallon boy

You should try Grappamiel.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 08:51 GMT
#276
Well Xatalos, I'm usually all for early-game-banter-heuristics but I don't really find anything useful in today's early-game, other than getting some town reads.

So yeah good luck with other stuff I guess.

No comment on your WoS case.

On June 22 2013 17:29 Xatalos wrote:
At least I got a good role if nothing else


Oh good, seems you got my role then
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 08:55 GMT
#277
Also voting thread is over there
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 21:47 GMT
#509
On June 22 2013 19:18 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 17:51 gonzaw wrote:
Well Xatalos, I'm usually all for early-game-banter-heuristics but I don't really find anything useful in today's early-game, other than getting some town reads.

So yeah good luck with other stuff I guess.

No comment on your WoS case.

On June 22 2013 17:29 Xatalos wrote:
At least I got a good role if nothing else


Oh good, seems you got my role then


I take it you don't find WaveofShadow scummy so far? Or..? (That's exactly my point by the way, these filler posts haven't been a perfect start, but it's dramatically better than nothing or bland introduction posts.)


Okay, time has gone by so I can just answer this.

Your case was obviously "bad". You tried making very certain conclusions of really inconclusive stuff (that was the only stuff WOS posted and was, for the most part, non-alignment-indicative).
That's what I call a "shitty case to get the ball rolling". Several townies do that....well.....to start scumhunting, and see people's reactions, and press people to take stances earlier, and basically try to establish a nice atmosphere earlier (which can be hard to do if your case is "bad enough" to get some shitty accusations back and shit, I remember that happening in some games previously).
And that is fair and fine....but yeah the case was bad, or at least over-exaggerated stuff.

Makes me feel a little better of you because townies are the ones that usually do that kind of stuff (reminds me of Keirathi in Aperture 2 I think). Scum don't start with an obvious "bad" case that puts them in the spotlight, and is obviously meant to start discussion. If they do a case they do one either completely joking (to blend in as a "not-try hard" and post something), or completely serious (to just blend in normally as if they were contributing).

So props to that I guess

I see there are votes flying everywhere in the voting thread, so it seems there is no cohesion at all so far (haven't read the thread yet)
Seems I am needed in this situation!
Off to read...
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 21:51 GMT
#512
Wait someone already shot someone else or what?
lol finally things get interesting.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 23:01 GMT
#528
On to page 17

On June 23 2013 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:46 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
StrongandBig, WaveofShadow, and BC are the scums 100%. Sk8 for MVP.

Thank you, good night.

Also about my role, the player who wrote it wanted to gain an advantage on player roles. Everyone suspects something, but only he and I know what it does and now he knows the role he received and mine. Possibly more if he is scum.

I thought about not doing it, but then he still wins if he is scum by knowing i'm out there not using my abilities.

Meta-scum >

Care to explain exactly what you're talking about in this post?

Also sorry about letting my tryhard pants fall off, guys, I forgot to put on a belt and someone pantsed me.
In all honestly the reason my posing twas crap then picked up and devolved again is because having never played in this kind of a game before I wasn't exactly sure how seriously people take it and how hard town/scum really try to win (ie do people scumhunt as normal with crazy as fuck roles flying around). It seems as though while there is likely to be more trolling in a game sch as this, people definitely do still want to win; as such I will begin to contribute in earnest.


I'm still not sure of you, Acro. Why haven't you commented much on what Xatalos has to say about me aside from you sharing his suspicions? I am arguably his strongest scumread and so I probably warrant discussion, yet you keep bringing conversation into role-claiming/setup speculation type stuff.


Okay this post is giving me red flags.

1) Half-assed apology for some unrelated "try hard" shit. He feels pressure and succumbs to it. Bad sign, scum tell right there.
0 confidence, but when it relates to "easy" pressure. Would a townie have this "breakdown" (basically begging people to forgive him for acting like he did about tryhard pants stuff) like this?
If I was a townie I wouldn't feel much pressure, at least not how townies feel pressure and feel the need to apologize about this kind of thing
Scum feel pressure from the get go, so it's more likely for them to succumb to it in this way (happens to me most of the time as well, at times someone asks you a random question and you still feel pressured by him).

2) Is he seriously accusing Acro for not commenting on Xata's case on him? This feels so random. You don't "not feel sure" about someone because of stuff like that.

"But gonzaw! Xata made a case! Townies are supposed to comment on cases! Maybe WOS is right!"

How about you go and read my previous post.
Xata's case was obviously a "get the ball rolling one". I ignored it because I knew it was "bullshit" from the get go and was just wishful thinking from Xata to get people to start doing something.
If Acro felt the same way, then congrats because it shows he has a (smart) townie mindset

WOS doesn't seem to feel the same way though. In fact, he uses it as EVIDENCE of his suspicions on Acro....his ONLY evidence.

This feels off to me. Maybe WOS just failed to realize that stuff, but to accuse Acro for something at worst actually makes him more likely town is bad.

Meh I'll keep reading, but that's my thoughts on this stuff while I do.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 23:05 GMT
#529
I guess my biggest concern is that while I'm reading the thread I have no reason to think of Acro as scum, and hell would even say he's likely to be town

WOS's "reasons" for FoSing him seem bullshit to me in that regard. I don't know how the hell he's reading the thread, but I just don't know if a townie would really read the thread and come to that conclusion about Acro based on that "flimsy" evidence.

Maybe I'm just extrapolating my own behaviour and mindset in this game to him, so I hope I get more feedback on this and see if I'm the only one.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 23:12 GMT
#531
Well, I haven't read the shot (whatever happened) thing, but here's my rundown on XXX so far:

He's new to TL. He said he isn't new to mafia though, so we shouldn't just assume he's a noob
If he was scum this would be a perfect opportunity to play some mild noob cards though. More subtle noob cards of course, maybe like what WoS is doing (apologize to the slightest of pressure, act like you dont' really know what to do, etc).

So, he's not doing that, so let's just ignore that.
What he IS doing is act confident, active, and just interact with people and seem sure of himself.
I don't see him posting with hesitation and stuff.

It's true he has no "meta" because he hasn't played in TL before, so I can't really say 100% if this makes him town or not (maybe he acts like this as scum all the time in other forums), but EXACTLY that leaves to a different conclusion: XXX has no "meta" on us either.

So, XXX has no meta knowledge of us, he doesn't know us. With that in mind, would he act like this as his 1st scum game in TL (which is also his 1st game in TL as well)? Would he be this "reckless" in that sense? He doesn't know any of us so he doesn't know what to expect, he wouldn't know how we'll react, etc.
If he was scum I think he'd be more cautious because of this fact, and when I read his posts "cautious" is the last thing I think of.

My 2 cents...
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 23:29 GMT
#534
Acro, how do you feel about solstice?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 23:30 GMT
#535
I think I might want to kill him instead.

If someone wants to have free town points in my mind, try to pinpoint which post made me think that
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 22 2013 23:36 GMT
#537
Just a sidenote:
BC, damn dude. I can see why you get lynched D1 so often lol
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