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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#3597
On July 03 2013 23:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
This is what happened.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From [UoN]Sentinel:
Yeah, dec put it in the spreadsheet

Original Message From Crossfire99:
you did get my action to roleblock xata correct?

Original Message From [UoN]Sentinel:
Yes.

Original Message From Crossfire99:
ARe there rolelbock notifications?


I then thought is was an elaborate ploy to mislynch me and win the game, so that's why I was so gung ho about it. I was pretty sure if we mislynched we lost, so that's why I pushed it so hard. Sorry, looking back now, I obviously wish I took a step back and thought about it more, but I didn't.


Aarghhh........ Why..... Sentinellllll........ *SNAP*

(Sigh, sorry to blame you then, but deconduo said completely the opposite... I thought for a long time that you must be scum because of that. Apparently we were both victims I guess To avoid such situations, I advice to create an exhaustive and absolute list of rules about the game for all hosts to refer to. That way nothing like this could happen.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 14:44 GMT
#3598
ALTHOUGH!!!

I did clearly ask in the thread for host confirmation about this mess. What we got were two opposite answers by two different hosts ("no" by deconduo and "yes" by Sentinel). This could all have easily been resolved, and somewhat likely my death avoided, if it had been just made clear in the thread as I requested to begin with.

Hosts pls

(PS. I would have repeatedly demanded the situation to be resolved in the thread if I hadn't been AFK for that crucial time. Thus, I am also to blame for being AFK, although less than the hosts for contradicting each other IMO.)

(PS+. Otherwise good job hosts, but this one failure *might* have caused town to lose. I hope I don't sound too much like geript now, I'm just.... Sad, I guess. Since I wrongly suspected Crossfire99 and he wrongly suspected and pushed me to death.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 14:56 GMT
#3600
On July 03 2013 23:49 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 23:44 Xatalos wrote:
ALTHOUGH!!!

I did clearly ask in the thread for host confirmation about this mess. What we got were two opposite answers by two different hosts ("no" by deconduo and "yes" by Sentinel). This could all have easily been resolved, and somewhat likely my death avoided, if it had been just made clear in the thread as I requested to begin with.

Hosts pls

(PS. I would have repeatedly demanded the situation to be resolved in the thread if I hadn't been AFK for that crucial time. Thus, I am also to blame for being AFK, although less than the hosts for contradicting each other IMO.)

(PS+. Otherwise good job hosts, but this one failure *might* have caused town to lose. I hope I don't sound too much like geript now, I'm just.... Sad, I guess. Since I wrongly suspected Crossfire99 and he wrongly suspected and pushed me to death.)

The hosts did clarify. It just happened to be after your death unfortunately.


Did they (before today I mean)? In any case, after my death is almost the same as not at all.....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 14:58 GMT
#3601
Gonzaw, on second thought, can I join you on suicide watch?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 15:05 GMT
#3603
Urgh... What a stupid way to die. Dunno which is worse, 1) it being (in a major part) based on a stupid misunderstanding 2) me being AFK -> ensuring that it didn't get resolved before I was already shot).

(Still better than dying to BC's Russian roulette though, I guess )
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 15:08 GMT
#3604
On July 04 2013 00:02 kitaman27 wrote:
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On July 03 2013 23:44 Xatalos wrote:
(PS+. Otherwise good job hosts, but this one failure *might* have caused town to lose.


Considering the lack of a second mafia kp, a fourth mafia member, and including several town roles that the mafia had little way to deal with, I think one 1 accidental death is still pretty generous to town :p


Hahaha. Maybe. You did get Zephirdd with Gonzaw's anti-town machine, me with a host miscommunication and WOS with a town KP as well though.... Not too bad IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 15:16 GMT
#3605
On July 03 2013 09:39 gonzaw wrote:
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On July 03 2013 09:37 Acrofales wrote:
On July 03 2013 09:35 gonzaw wrote:
On July 03 2013 09:31 Acrofales wrote:
Xatalos played okay. He wasn't great, but the only reason you thought he was scum was because his and xfire's stories didn't add up. Still not sure what happened there with the roleblocked shit, but how the hell was he supposed to claim he was roleblocked when he wasn't notified.

decon said in obs QT that roleblocks weren't notified. So essentially, it was xfire who had the wrong info, didn't check it properly, and you all piled onto Xata, who was playing quite okay when you got through the elaborate waffly way of talking.. which if you had even bothered to look at my filter, you would have noticed is part of his town meta, despite me going all raaaage at him over it.


Xfire specifically said a host gave him a PM saying RBs are notified. Xata specifically said no host gave him a PM saying he was RBed.

Logically one of them is 100% lying, those are logical contradictions. If you figure out Xfire is telling the truth then Xata is lying scum by derivation

Well....or they should be....

Why the fuck would scum be dumb enough to lie about something as obvious as this. HE LIED HE'S SCUM is soooo fucking stupid.


Dumb? No
Setting a misslynch on Xfire? Most likely


/suicide
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 21:49 GMT
#3649
On July 04 2013 05:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 23:44 Xatalos wrote:
ALTHOUGH!!!

I did clearly ask in the thread for host confirmation about this mess. What we got were two opposite answers by two different hosts ("no" by deconduo and "yes" by Sentinel). This could all have easily been resolved, and somewhat likely my death avoided, if it had been just made clear in the thread as I requested to begin with.

Hosts pls

(PS. I would have repeatedly demanded the situation to be resolved in the thread if I hadn't been AFK for that crucial time. Thus, I am also to blame for being AFK, although less than the hosts for contradicting each other IMO.)

(PS+. Otherwise good job hosts, but this one failure *might* have caused town to lose. I hope I don't sound too much like geript now, I'm just.... Sad, I guess. Since I wrongly suspected Crossfire99 and he wrongly suspected and pushed me to death.)


actually this host bit is what made me shoot you in conjuction to gonza also thinking it made you scum.

I had a solidish townread on xfire based on how he was playing and gonza was clear town. It came down to geript, kita and austin. Given that I thought kita was third party and geript was confirmed scum who I thought had tardis I would have a) used a diff ability or shot austin

So had the hosts not kinda fubared the situation a bit with their pm's then you'd never have been shot and kitas day shot would have been blocked via ewok whistle, or austin shot.


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 22:06 GMT
#3650
Well, I guess it's useless to mourn that In the end it was a chain of unfortunate events/failures/misunderstandings and not really solely anyone's (hosts', mine, BC's, Xfire's, Gonzaw's etc.) fault.

In any case, if I ever decide to host a game, there will definitely be a lengthy set of rules to refer to... So that something like this couldn't possibly happen. I bet the difficulty is on a completely new level in a PTP though, but this was about a basic rule, not something any player could decide. It all could have been avoided with reasonable precautions IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 03 2013 22:08 GMT
#3651
On July 04 2013 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 03:57 gonzaw wrote:
I had no troubles with the PTP aspect of the game. I mean, I didn't really cry at night because of kita's day vig, geript's MK, the TARDIS fucking us up, etc.
Actually yes...the worst problem a PTP game can have is non-existance.......sk8 I'm looking at you

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY SOMEONE LIED ABOUT MY ROLE SOMEHOW I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON

Sk8 said he made me veteran lookout who can track people that make visits at night or some shit. That didn't sound so bad (although it being passive is kind of a drag, the most fun PTP roles are interactive).
Then hosts said they didn't change roles at all basically, other than little tweeks
....yet I got fucking vengeful-spirit townie-killer

wtf, who is lying?


This is the role PM I got from sk8:

Show nested quote +
Original Message From xxSK8rGUy277xx:
You are a Mischevious Troll!

If you are lynched, one of your guilty voters must commit suicide.

At night, you can activate your Troll Toll. If any player visits you while you are doing this, they will gain the ability "If you are lynched, one of your guilty voters must commit suicide".

At night, you can visit a player and remove the ability "If you are lynched, one of your guilty voters must commit suicide". You may not activate the Troll toll AND visit a player on the same night.

You are immune to suiciding from lynching someone.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know if it's worded correctly. But this is my ROLE! :D





Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 04:36 austinmcc wrote:
PTP5: PY(PTP)

Everyone creates a role, roles are all in the open and get drafted?

e: With some extra roles thrown in or something.


I was thinking of doing a PYP: PTP Allstars game, where the rolelist would be taken from all the good roles in the PTP games.


Heh, nice idea IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 04 2013 06:49 GMT
#3655
On July 04 2013 10:31 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 07:06 Xatalos wrote:
Well, I guess it's useless to mourn that In the end it was a chain of unfortunate events/failures/misunderstandings and not really solely anyone's (hosts', mine, BC's, Xfire's, Gonzaw's etc.) fault.

In any case, if I ever decide to host a game, there will definitely be a lengthy set of rules to refer to... So that something like this couldn't possibly happen. I bet the difficulty is on a completely new level in a PTP though, but this was about a basic rule, not something any player could decide. It all could have been avoided with reasonable precautions IMO.

Refers to currently ongoing Catch 22 game: cohost (me) didn't read the OP and made a mistake. Nothing major, but mistakes happen regardless of how many documents you make (and the longer they are, the more likely it is that a cohost doesn't read it )


Haha. Well, I'm always a perfectionist, but I agree that it's impossible to avoid every mistake. Still, at least MAJOR (game-changing) mistakes should be minimized somehow. A good start would be to clarify every rule question in the thread, not in PMs, IMO (at least if there's been talk about it in the thread and not solely in a question PM). Most situations were resolved in-thread here as well, but not this for some reason

In the end, I'm mostly angry at myself. Clearly BC, Gonzaw and Crossfire99 would have never started pushing me like they did without this "lie" I made. If I had:
1) never mentioned the contradiction by Crossfire99
2) been online for the 24 hours before the shot to defend myself / resolve the misunderstanding in-thread
3) appeared more clearly townish earlier on (catching a scum or even just scumhunting more like Gonzaw)
all this would never have happened either... 3 is kind of stupid though, since then Crossfire99 would have just ended up dead instead of me. 1 is.... not sure. 2 is at least a clear ticket to victory if it had really happened.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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