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I'll make it very simple.
The only thing that drives me is a desire to win. Witness:
Rock Band Mini Mafia: town - win Liquid City: mafia - win Your Clothes, Give them to me Mafia: town - win Mario Mini Mafia: town - win Chrono Trigger: town - win Paranoia Mafia: town - win Hero Mini Mafia: mafia - win TL Mafia LVIII: town - loss TL Mafia LIX: town - win MTG Mafia II: town - win Fruity Mafia: town - win This Town Aint Big Enough Mafia: town - win Hydra Mini Mafia: town - win Personality 2: town - loss (horrendous) Red Team's Prize: town - win Ego Mini Mafia: town - win Hydra Mini Mafia II: town - win
This is my recent town record. Pretty fucking stellar you might say. Let's analyse the losses: TLVIII - I ragequit like a useless noob. ok. Personality 2? I was totally useless and I lost (even though DANDEL READ ME AS TOWN). fine.
Other than that I basically win all the time. i am a winner.
In this case, Dandel is purposefully antagonising me, for no good reason. There is literally no reason for it at all. I'm convinced he's mafia, and like my other games like I always win, I'm putting my vote where my mouth is. You can join me in my extraordinarily good record, or you can join the troll who wants to antagonise me.
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On May 18 2013 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Yes now tell me why that is alignment indicative in any way at all.
because you have at least a basic understanding of how to read me, as witnessed in personality when you read me as town early, yet you antaogonise me here. thanks.
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On May 18 2013 08:11 iamperfection wrote: yeah but how does him antagonizing you make it a scum claim?
Scum dandel is going to come in here and atagonize a town marv? For what purpose? How does it accomplish his goals as scum?
because i'm well known to go fucking nuts when i'm accused for terrible reasons?
do you think i've come across as even slightly scummy so far?
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On May 18 2013 08:15 iamperfection wrote: but no i dont think you have been scummy at all so far
Right, so we have a couple of really, really basic facts:
1) i was shit in personality, dandel decided to protect me really really early because he was sure i was town 2) see 1 3) again, have you seen how shit i am when under pressure? (LVIII - modkill) is the best example 4) maybe i occasionally throw games as town, but again, my recent record is literally 87.5% as town. I'm fucking pulling this record in.
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and i have no idea what you're smoking if you don't think there's a mafia motivation for attacking a town-marv.
seriously.
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On May 18 2013 08:19 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Yes now tell me why that is alignment indicative in any way at all. because you have at least a basic understanding of how to read me, as witnessed in personality when you read me as town early, yet you antaogonise me here. thanks. I still fail to see what that has to do with my alignment. If you want though, I can dig up the games where I misread your townplay as scumplay, I think there should be around two of those. I wasn't scum in them either. I don't like using that since it makes me sound dumb even though I'm a really smart chap, but there you go. Now tell me since when do you think I'm actually good enough at this game that the accuracy of my reads reflects on my alignment, because I know that you don't actually think I'm good enough at this game for that to hold water. And that's a serious jump in mentality, and I have not seen a single reason for it to occur.
please find those games, that would be appreciated.
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if you can find that genuine evidence, dandel, i'll probably back off.
Personally I don't remember it happening but I understand I can be blinded by my rage. So yeah, feel free.
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On May 18 2013 08:21 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 08:15 iamperfection wrote: but no i dont think you have been scummy at all so far Right, so we have a couple of really, really basic facts: 1) i was shit in personality, dandel decided to protect me really really early because he was sure i was town 2) see 1 3) again, have you seen how shit i am when under pressure? (LVIII - modkill) is the best example 4) maybe i occasionally throw games as town, but again, my recent record is literally 87.5% as town. I'm fucking pulling this record in. i would say rockband is your best example of being under pressure and how i would expect you to react as town. Which is somewhat how your reacting here. What do you think of sputnick?
I have zero opinion of sputnik right now. from what i remember he posted uselessly a couple of times with fluff. I'm willing to see what he comes up with tomorrow.
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On May 18 2013 08:21 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 08:19 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 18 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Yes now tell me why that is alignment indicative in any way at all. because you have at least a basic understanding of how to read me, as witnessed in personality when you read me as town early, yet you antaogonise me here. thanks. I still fail to see what that has to do with my alignment. If you want though, I can dig up the games where I misread your townplay as scumplay, I think there should be around two of those. I wasn't scum in them either. I don't like using that since it makes me sound dumb even though I'm a really smart chap, but there you go. Now tell me since when do you think I'm actually good enough at this game that the accuracy of my reads reflects on my alignment, because I know that you don't actually think I'm good enough at this game for that to hold water. And that's a serious jump in mentality, and I have not seen a single reason for it to occur. please find those games, that would be appreciated. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256
when did you find me scum in red team? i don't remember that at all. magic i'm discarding because you were with acro, but if you genuininly thought so in red team, that kinda makes a difference.
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so maybe i overreacted. i still have no idea why dandel found me at all mafia based on my play so far though,
i think i've been a qtpie so far.
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On May 18 2013 08:24 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 08:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 08:21 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 18 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 08:19 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 18 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Yes now tell me why that is alignment indicative in any way at all. because you have at least a basic understanding of how to read me, as witnessed in personality when you read me as town early, yet you antaogonise me here. thanks. I still fail to see what that has to do with my alignment. If you want though, I can dig up the games where I misread your townplay as scumplay, I think there should be around two of those. I wasn't scum in them either. I don't like using that since it makes me sound dumb even though I'm a really smart chap, but there you go. Now tell me since when do you think I'm actually good enough at this game that the accuracy of my reads reflects on my alignment, because I know that you don't actually think I'm good enough at this game for that to hold water. And that's a serious jump in mentality, and I have not seen a single reason for it to occur. please find those games, that would be appreciated. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256 when did you find me scum in red team? i don't remember that at all. magic i'm discarding because you were with acro, but if you genuininly thought so in red team, that kinda makes a difference. Eh, early on i think. Probably. I remember I drew a picture about it.
I just checked it out. You did call me scum in that game, for no reason as per usual. That does mean i shouldn't find it that unusual in this game. it still stinks though.
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Guys, wait!
We're all bitching at each other, which is lovely.
Who are we letting get a free pass?
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I'm kinda interested in DarthPunk. no real reason. say what you all?
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On May 18 2013 08:29 iamperfection wrote:so you dont remember this? Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:So I'm dropping a made meta read on Iamp for his scum play in GSL Mini III and his town play in Liquid City. Iamperfections' meta as scum is lurking and big gaps between small posts, besides defending himself. As Town he tends to flood with smaller posts but he's always in the thread and interacting with people. Bearing in mind GSL Mini III is an unusually extreme version of Iamperf's meta, it's still indicative-- in fact, Hapa catches him as scum that game based on meta with extreme ease (link). In this game Iamperfection is doing his typical "bury them in a mountain of posts!" style town play. He has periods of 2-3 hours where he'll post like 10 times, then he'll go away for ~8 hours then come back and do the same. This is how he plays as town. n terms of associative tells, he interacts with Hapa in a natural way that doesn't seem like they're scum together. I also like this read he makes on kickstart early on (link) that as scum he wouldn't want to. His suspicions of Hapa (link) tie in well with his willingness to last-minute votehop (link). Although he does defend crossfire here (link) I view that as more a point in his favor than against him, as Crossfire was a liability for the scumteam and was inevitably gonna be lynched. In particular his interaction with marv here (link) and his attempts to get crossfire to play the damn game here (link) and here (link) make it seem like he really genuinely think crossfire is town. Basically I don't see scum making a post like this: (link) or like this: (link). This is all consistent with a legitimate town-read on cross, which, given the scenario, is a bad move as scum. Cross WAS going to flip eventually and bussing him was optimal scum play.
I'm liking this a lot. Just sayin'
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wanna kill blazing, iamp? i'm totally game.
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Like, seriously. We have 2 scenarios:
1) blazing makes a shitload of effort to look at iamp's meta, having played with iamp before 2) blazing makes no effort to look at iamp's meta, despite having played with iamp's meta before
i'm liking the difference between 1 and 2 right now
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i'm voting for blazing. his stutters case is totally underwhelming.
##vote: blazinghand
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blazing, i kinda feel ok about a Jarjar vote instead. how does that feel?
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On May 18 2013 08:37 iamperfection wrote: blazinghand does have a point about jar jar he looks kind of tera bad
agreed, the biggest issue is that blazing is voting stutters, and not jarjar. do you see what i'm saying?
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Let's put it this way Blazing. Stutters is always a useless pile of shit. literally always.
i've seen you in recent games say "if you can't support this case with meta, your case sucks".
can you?
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