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BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.
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Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self?
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BH I'll be here until like 2 est or so, seems like most people give no shit about this game though. 
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You might make me look like a fool for this BH (payback for LXI I guess if that's the case :p), but I'm really not as sold on you being scum as I was. This is just too easy and with the people who were so on you being scum all mia, everyone else hopping on the wagon i can't see a benefit to leaving Grush alive over y.
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I'm running into work now but I'll unvote when I get a chance.
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On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad. Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another. Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying. I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game. At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post. Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.##Unvote
##Vote: BlazinghandWhen you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK.
What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me.
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JJD: Do you think his reads are genuine, are they coming from a scum perspective. How has today influenced your read on him?
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On May 22 2013 13:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 13:38 Stutters695 wrote:On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad. Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another. Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying. I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game. At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post. Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.##Unvote
##Vote: BlazinghandWhen you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK. What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me. What? When did I call DI town? He's been a scumread of mine for ages but he's lurking so fucking hard I can't get anything out of him. Would you prefer I leave my vote on him until deadline?
I want to understand why axing a contributing person who will inevitably give himself away if left alive is better than lynching someone who you think is scum and isn't doing shit.
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On May 22 2013 13:45 s0Lstice wrote:
Pardon me, but what the fuck are you guys doing?
The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do.
I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this.
Not knowing mechanics=/a definite scum slip in a closed setup. It is probably a scum slip but again I'd prefer taking out someone who isn't contributing at all and seems scummy over someone who is going to be here and provide more to analyze. Quite frankly if Marv shows up in the morning, calls me retarded and tells me to go BH my vote will pop right back over because he knows BH way better, but I'd rather have a potential scum BH in LYLO than a toss up Grush or DI when one of them is almost certainly scum.
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BH more than anything else I want your thoughts on DI (even if it's just agreeing with my points against him). I really don't like how little you've brought him up period.
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On May 22 2013 14:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 13:44 Stutters695 wrote:On May 22 2013 13:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 13:38 Stutters695 wrote:On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad. Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another. Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying. I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game. At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post. Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.##Unvote
##Vote: BlazinghandWhen you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK. What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me. What? When did I call DI town? He's been a scumread of mine for ages but he's lurking so fucking hard I can't get anything out of him. Would you prefer I leave my vote on him until deadline? I want to understand why axing a contributing person who will inevitably give himself away if left alive is better than lynching someone who you think is scum and isn't doing shit. I also thought sputnik was scum and wasn't doing shit and look where that got us. Not that I was the person who convinced people to vote for him in the end. There is the possibility I am wrong about scum Dandel, but either way I am not going to be the person to get people to vote for him; I never am. People don't listen to me. Ever. Specifically due to BH's recent posting towards me I believe he is scum more so now than before. If he was really town I would expect him to attempt to actually enter into discourse with me rather than antagonize me and ignore my posts. If he decides to swallow his pride and admits to lying before I have to spell it out for him tomorrow then him and I can have a chat, but not until then. I refuse to shit up the thread angrily trying to prove to scum that he is scum. As for my read on GK I will admit I am fucking lost. It reminds me of trying to read Hopeless1nder in LXI (which I was ultimately wrong about), who did such ridiculously scummy things but then wound up town. Why would you withhold information from town at this point in the game? Why the FUCK would you not read your role PM? The meta cases (including BH's) make sense, what I can make of them anyway, + Show Spoiler +(though specifically BH admitting to using a case like this AS SCUM to show how GK is town just in his own example just makes me want to trust him even less. SO fucking WIFOM-y) and beyond what points I have brought up against GK in the past, I have nothing new to bring to the table. I would rather lynch BH than GK or Dandel today, however, and I am standing by that right now.
This is going to sound like a bit of a cop out but I'm too tired to read your points against BH right now. I'll check them in the morning and give thoughts with plenty of time before the lynch.
Here is where I think your comparison falls flat: Sputnik is unreadable to a certain extent with his play style. DI isn't. This is scummy and out of character for him.
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Gonna have to wait until tomorrow but yeah I'll be up at like 9.
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I'm up, getting some coffee and then I'll get into the swing of things
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Also ##unvote
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I agree with your GK post for the most part. I'm curious though, do you feel like him being 3p is an option?
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On May 23 2013 00:31 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 00:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:56 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 23:54 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:44 Blazinghand wrote:On May 22 2013 23:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 22 2013 23:17 Blazinghand wrote:
And to be real, time, effort, willingness to post are all limited resources. I'm probably one of the few people in TL Mafia who, when put into the position of being guaranteed as a mislynch, actually does work. Needless to say, today would have been a day without analysis or commentary if not for me. As far as you know, I'm scum jerking you around, but once I flip, you'll be like "he died for our sins... truly he was the best of us, and we let him down"
I'll be like the Jesus Christ of this game. Calling bs on the bolded part. If you didn't have your slip, there wouldn't have been a singular focus on anyone at the start of D2. You HAD to say something today because of the mess you started. I award you no brownie points for that. The mess I started? I didn't choose to "slip", it just happened, and I did my best to explain how it isn't a slip. The fact that people decided that based on this, they should vote me, is understandable. The fact that they decided that based on this, they should vote me and stop talking, is not. I mean, I guess it's totally understandable: people are lazy and dumb and mafia are good at imitating that kind of behavior. Even though I understand it, I don't condone it. Even during my tunnellest of tunnels, I try to still talk to people about other things. At this point you are going to get lynched since too many people are convinced you are scum. I suggest to just get as many reads off as you can as that is the best way to help town at this point. Dont' bother trying to do anything else as its a waste of time. No more self reflective posts, just reads. If you flip scum then we can just ignore it, but if you flip town, then we can possibly use it. Self reflective reads aren't useful for demonstrating I'm town, either. They're just there because that's what I like to post! It's always been clear ever since the "scumslip" that I was going to be lynched today. For whatever reason, the fact that I realized this immediately was scummy, but the point remains. I see no reason not to puff up my ego and fluff my feathers before I get lynched. What are you gonna do to stop me, vote me? hue My point was that if you truly cared about this game and were truly town, you would stop posting shit like this. Why the antagonism at the end there... actually nvm, this conversation is going nowhere. It's not antagonism, it's a JOKE. The "hue" at the end of it isn't me talking about colour, it's me giggling. The point is, I'm dead anyways, which means I alone here am free to express whatever thoughts come to mind.
Scumslip! Get him boys.
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Marv anything you want to discuss?
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Did you ever read over DI BH?
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I really didn't like it but without Marv or DP on it and the rest of the thread not giving a shit that wasn't changing. Can we expect a night post from you Marv before the flip again, 48 hours of low activity is really concerning from you.
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Well at any case, GG BH. I really appreciate you getting in gear when you were essentially dead already.
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On May 23 2013 06:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
also I wish I asked BH the chances of marv or darth being the SK. he was sure they werent mafia but that seems hauntingly appropriate now.
Remember DP was RB'd. It depends on the setup but that could potentially invalidate him as SK.
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