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On May 18 2013 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
So, new rule: Vayne is a VI. Ignore him, check him if you are a DT or vig him if you are a vigi, policy lynch him before lylo if he's still alive. There's a possibility he also rolled scum but judging by his last game and this one there's no real way to tell. Not a worthwhile D1 lynch.
I'm SO very tempted to agree, but Vayne is 1/16 of the players here.
Vayne - I know you think s0listice's original meat claims were suspicious, what do you make of his subsequent explanations? Do you like them, do you feel they incriminate him more? Whichever way, why?
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er, *original meta, not meat. freudian slip and all that.
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On May 18 2013 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:58 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
So, new rule: Vayne is a VI. Ignore him, check him if you are a DT or vig him if you are a vigi, policy lynch him before lylo if he's still alive. There's a possibility he also rolled scum but judging by his last game and this one there's no real way to tell. Not a worthwhile D1 lynch. I'm SO very tempted to agree, but Vayne is 1/16 of the players here. Vayne - I know you think s0listice's original meat claims were suspicious, what do you make of his subsequent explanations? Do you like them, do you feel they incriminate him more? Whichever way, why? Alright first I want to apologize as I also did to Prome in the other thread by way of PM, once I get into an argument I become a pathetic piece of shit. Second, I want to say that its a sort of softclaim by s0lstice that him and stutters are mafia together. Seems like a bus to me, and yes it incriminates him more. Still wouldnt want to lynch today but if you guys are going to force me to either of them would be my vote.
I've been reading LXI and basically you think in a way that I don't understand at all, but that's fine. What did s0lstice say that incriminated him? What incriminates him more? Why don't you want to lynch him today?
I literally don't understand your point of view at all, so I need you to explain it to me so I can understand how you think.
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... er, by LXi I mean Carnival. Excuse me.
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My thoughts on what you've written;
points 1 and 2 don't hold up. especially because lurking is a bad thing for maifa, and encouraging anyone to post can be pretty town motivated.
point 3 could be valid though. the vote on stutters looks pretty weak. I can't see any good reason for s0lstice to want to kill stutters, it all looks a little contrived.
Not sure what to make of it all, I don't get massively strong feelings about any of it either way.
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On May 18 2013 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 07:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I dont want to lynch him because I hate lynching day one, accidentally bringing out a PR role is literally such a bad start that it can be almost impossible to recover from if its a strong role. Also take into account simple probability, whats the chances of us finding scum based on no real evidence? 25%. I would never take those chances would you? see how could you possibly lynch a guy who legitimately thinks this is an ok post to make? There's no heuristic that could possibly distinguish scum VA from town VA. everyone should unvote this guy
it's not really worth talking about, but he doesn't realise that on TL we're skilled enough to find mafia day 1 fairly regularly :p
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On May 18 2013 07:21 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 07:20 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:On May 18 2013 07:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I dont want to lynch him because I hate lynching day one, accidentally bringing out a PR role is literally such a bad start that it can be almost impossible to recover from if its a strong role. Also take into account simple probability, whats the chances of us finding scum based on no real evidence? 25%. I would never take those chances would you? see how could you possibly lynch a guy who legitimately thinks this is an ok post to make? There's no heuristic that could possibly distinguish scum VA from town VA. everyone should unvote this guy it's not really worth talking about, but he doesn't realise that on TL we're skilled enough to find mafia day 1 fairly regularly :p its more the fact that I come from playing on a site where EVERY DAY is mylo until its lylo.
then you play on a stupid site. because that means one mislynch means town loses, which is extraordinarily dumb.
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Ok. btw people can semi-ignore me until tomorrow when I'm more sober, but my current thought is this:
vayne is probably town because he's constantly answered me in a pretty consistent manner. this isn't a certain read, but meh, maybe we should be looking somewhere else today. he seems to be saying some really weird shit that he genuinely believes in without being scared of it. yes?
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On May 18 2013 07:31 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
Ok. btw people can semi-ignore me until tomorrow when I'm more sober, but my current thought is this:
vayne is probably town because he's constantly answered me in a pretty consistent manner. this isn't a certain read, but meh, maybe we should be looking somewhere else today. he seems to be saying some really weird shit that he genuinely believes in without being scared of it. yes? I said this pages ago. But yeah, it's nice you seem to agree.
yeah. but i'm more thorough than you 
ok, you and bh agree. this time spent was worthwhile.
let's focus on some other no-hoper.
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Dandel, how do you read me so far?
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please read and give me an opinion on me. it would help my read on you.
thanks!
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my conclusion is that i'll vote you for being a troll, because despite your usual bullshit i know you like to try to win.
##unvote
'##vote: dandel ion
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On May 18 2013 07:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
"Usual bullshit"
"Usual"
hi
You know I really want you dead every game too since your voice grates my ears, so I'mma be over here and try that real quick.
##Unvote
##Vote marv
Cool townclaim btw.
yeah, i know you're a cunt, and i know you think i'm a cunt.
yet in personality 2, you got over your feelings and somehow protected me when we were both town.
so your explanation is insufficient.
try again.
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On May 18 2013 07:48 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 07:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 07:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
"Usual bullshit"
"Usual"
hi
You know I really want you dead every game too since your voice grates my ears, so I'mma be over here and try that real quick.
##Unvote
##Vote marv
Cool townclaim btw. yeah, i know you're a cunt, and i know you think i'm a cunt. yet in personality 2, you got over your feelings and somehow protected me when we were both town. so your explanation is insufficient. try again. Yeah but it also taught me to not protect you ever again. Now this is as pointless as the previous shitfest(s), so I'mma get to reading I s'ppose
no, that's COMPLETELY irrelevant as to whether i'm town or mafia.
that's me playing badly or well. i'm 14-2 as town recently, and personality was one of that 2.
please come up with an actual reason i'm mafia.
thank you.
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On May 18 2013 07:55 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 07:43 marvellosity wrote:
my conclusion is that i'll vote you for being a troll, because despite your usual bullshit i know you like to try to win.
##unvote
'##vote: dandel ion Marv, I want to talk to you about this, because you doing this is not what I expect from town Marv. You know well that Dandel trolls as either alignment.
aren't you reading at all?
In personality, dandel specifically protected me as his protection target, which he had to protect ONE OF, all game long, because he was certain i was town.
i was fucking useless in personality. it's my worst game by far. and yet a town dandel protected me becuase he was sure i was town.
dandel does not "troll as either alignment"
the fact you're saying this shows a remarkable lack of understanding of how dandel plays.
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i'm basically out of this game, unless you guys vote for the troll.
blackmail? bullshit? totally.
that's how strongly i feel about it. his play here is total nonsense.
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On May 18 2013 07:58 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 07:56 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 07:55 yamato77 wrote:On May 18 2013 07:43 marvellosity wrote:
my conclusion is that i'll vote you for being a troll, because despite your usual bullshit i know you like to try to win.
##unvote
'##vote: dandel ion Marv, I want to talk to you about this, because you doing this is not what I expect from town Marv. You know well that Dandel trolls as either alignment. aren't you reading at all? In personality, dandel specifically protected me as his protection target, which he had to protect ONE OF, all game long, because he was certain i was town. i was fucking useless in personality. it's my worst game by far. and yet a town dandel protected me becuase he was sure i was town. dandel does not "troll as either alignment" the fact you're saying this shows a remarkable lack of understanding of how dandel plays. I got railed on as scum in RTP because of this exact argument, and I was wrong. Marv, what the fuck.
you're an idiot. later.
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yamato, you got protected in some game because dandel felt 100% you were town even though you were playing like a moron?
you're really making that comparison?
didn't think so.
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i'm obviously town. dandel is obviously trying to antaogonise me despite knowing how to read me.
there's nothing else to say.
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