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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 08:10 GMT
#586
Oh. And to your BH case. I think the premise that blazinghand can't play like shit as town is wrong. Blazinghand can play like absolute trash and have shit reads as town. TO be fair he can also play well.

But yeah I wouldn't feel comfortable lynching him day one on 'bad' play. Look at the starts of mario and paranoia for bad BH play.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 08:11 GMT
#587
On May 18 2013 17:10 yamato77 wrote:
Maybe he just didn't want to have to use it this game?

If we ignore STARSENSES altogether, I would feel better about lynching him. There are plenty of bad posts in his filter.


NO He used it for the last 10 months every time. He doesn't not say it one day 'just cause'
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 08:29 GMT
#591
On May 18 2013 17:18 yamato77 wrote:
I can see where you're coming from, I suppose.

If there's no better lynch when I look at the game tomorrow, I would be fine lynching him.

What do you think about Marv?


Marv doesn't look good. But I tunnelled him the last two times I played with him and was wrong so I am trying to be restrained this time.

I think I made a post which said marv didn't look good.

He said he wanted to lynch me for no reason, and hasn't mentioned it since.

Ah fuck it. One sec. I didn't like the fact he tried to start like 4 wagons with no explanation at all in the space of like 20 min.
On May 18 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
I'm kinda interested in DarthPunk. no real reason. say what you all?

1 min later after Iamp says i look townie

On May 18 2013 08:31 marvellosity wrote:
wanna kill blazing, iamp? i'm totally game.

4min later
On May 18 2013 08:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm voting for blazing. his stutters case is totally underwhelming.

##vote: blazinghand


He unvotes (never votes in voting thread) blazing like 7 min later

On May 18 2013 08:51 marvellosity wrote:
i can get on a wagon.

LOOK AT GRUSH PLEASE PEOPLE, I COULD KILL HIM TOO.

##vote: JJD


Votes JJD cause ????

On May 18 2013 08:53 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: grush57



"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 08:34 GMT
#593
On May 18 2013 17:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
The focus on grush is retarded imo, he is town because STARSENSES. DP I refuse to put in any more effort attempting to dissuade you or anyone else from a useless mislynch here.


One of these things is not like the other. Previous games when forgetting to say starsenses.

On September 08 2012 07:28 grush57 wrote:
AWWW SHEEEEEEEEEET.
I KNOW WHY TOAD CALLED ME SCUM
I FORGOT
STARSENSES.


On January 14 2013 02:52 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote:
Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started.

Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now.

For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it
Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I.

Super, are you town?

Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column?

Jay, what's your read of zentor?

Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name.


You're right, I forgot.

STARSENSES


This game.

On May 18 2013 10:22 grush57 wrote:
whoa whoa guys, just because I didn't claim starsenses doesn't mean I'm scum. While it will always be true that when I claim starsenses I will be town, I don't want it to be a 100% meta thing so I'm screwed when i get mafia. I am just gonna claim it when necessary or when I need to to survive from now on, so I don't get botched as scum.


On May 18 2013 11:04 grush57 wrote:
:"(
don't do this to me bro


On May 18 2013 11:10 grush57 wrote:
I said if I don't claim doesn't make me scum.


On May 18 2013 11:14 grush57 wrote:
last minute I'll claim and then I'll be #1 town play of 2013


On May 18 2013 11:22 grush57 wrote:
gaiz only scum try to lynch me
STARSENSES
herp derp
##Vote: goodkarma


This game is not the fucking same as the last 10 months of meta says it should be.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 08:36 GMT
#594
On May 18 2013 17:31 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah, when I was reading that part of his filter, I was feeling a bit suspicious of him. What do you make of him claiming he was drunk? Do you think that's a possible explanation for his erratic play?


I already posted about that previously. Shit like that makes me suspicious because you are already trying to absolve yourself of responsibility from the things you say whilst you are saying them.

Why bother saying anything at all then?



"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 08:43 GMT
#597
I really have no fucking clue how WoS has a town read on grush. Care to explain it?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 08:52 GMT
#600
Well. I want WoS To explain his town read on grush. Explicitly how he can be so confident that he is calling it a mislynch already.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 09:09 GMT
#605
I could lynch WoS to be honest.

I don't like the JJD case. He is newly graduated to non-newbies and it can be intimidating which could explain the active lurking.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 09:16 GMT
#614
On May 18 2013 18:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 18:11 yamato77 wrote:
On May 18 2013 18:06 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 18 2013 18:01 yamato77 wrote:
It could be that grush is town and WoS is scum trying to gain towncred for "being right" about grush.


although this is possible, it's not a super reasonable and useful thing to draw associative tells between unflipped players. this is why the important thing isn't who makes cases on who, but the mindset and reasoning behind said cases. Currently WoS's defense of grush is unsubstantiated, and because we can't see a town mindset from which this defense would arise, what this means associatively is not relevant until a flip has taken place.

Well his mindset seems to be to use his townread of grush to make people look bad, no?

Kinda fits with how I see his posting. It certainly doesn't look like scum WoS defending scum Grush.


I don't view this as a productive way to think about it. I don't draw associative tells between unflipped players because I haven't seen it end well.

Specifically regarding WoS: I could lynch WoS just for this post because of how far he is reaching. But my reads this game aren't as

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 14:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man I fucking hate you guys. Nothing but crazy activity when I can't be at my computer...sigh.
Alright looking at GK atm.
On May 18 2013 06:13 goodkarma wrote:
It's worth noting that Vayne proposed a no lynch as town in his last newbie game that just finished up. He also hesitated to give reads that game too... I don't feel he's a good lynch right now since his play (though bad) is consistent with what I've seen him do as town before.

First one to jump up and defend VA. I'm not really sure what this amounts to; it certainly looked as though the VA wagon was getting rolling pretty fast and I think here was where it started getting turned around. VA's activity certainly did get better as the thread of lynch dropped off...suspiciously looks almost as though GK in scum QT to VA told him to calm the fuck down and do something useful or some shit while he helped get his neck out the noose? I dunno, #Wave'sconspiracytheories but I'm getting this shit out there. The grush vote is dumb, he waffles on stutters pretty quick but he shares my attitude regarding JJD: looks scummy but don't want to vote just yet.

Looking at solstice's case on him:
He picks up the waffling and gives it a little more weight than I do, clearly. I do like solstice's case but it doesn't feel like enough for me to change my vote atm. I'm leaning scum on GK as a result but not obvscum like sputnik is right now. The fact that he still hasn't returned and done anything makes me feel better about my vote choice the longer it goes on.

Solstice: why do you feel better about voting GK than sputnik right now?


this post is like bad and scummy in every way. Whatever you want to say about GK, the fact that he was the first person to question the VA wagon doesn't make him scum.


Yeah I wrote about that exact post. It was the thing that made me first look at WoS.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 09:17 GMT
#617
On May 18 2013 18:15 Blazinghand wrote:
wow I was gonna delete the sentence where i look like an unconfident zerg player but i accidentally left it in. WELP


ORLY? You scum BH?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 09:18 GMT
#618
On May 18 2013 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
oh, I finally got up to where DP made a stupid caselet on me based on my vote jumping around, exactly like the ones he's done in my last 3 towngames.

DP, do you ever learn?


If you read that post you read the start. Where i say i didn't want to do that again.

Blame fucking Yamato for baiting me. LOL
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 09:22 GMT
#622
On May 18 2013 18:20 Blazinghand wrote:
er, when I feel unconfident I don't want to share it with the thread. WHATEVER YOU GET THE IDEA


This fucking blazinghand.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 09:26 GMT
#627
Fuck it. Grush is a good fallback lynch if WoS changes my mind.

##unvote

##Vote: WaveofShadow
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 11:59 GMT
#637
On May 18 2013 20:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
DP, going against the starsenses is a dangerous endeavor.

I require you to find a game where grush "fakeclaims" starsenses as scum. Until then, I'm not lynching him.


I've done more than my share by diving every game of his for the past 10 months. The way he claimed star senses this game is clearly different.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 12:04 GMT
#641
On May 18 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:26 sputnik.theory wrote:
People who have yet to offer any input in no particular order:
cDgCorazon
raynpelikoneet
yamato77 - posted first popcorn and nothing since
VayneAuthority - his birthday prolly busy :D
goodkarma


somehow i missed this at the time. what is this bullpoop?


LOL a LIST POST! Dat scumclaim must feel nice for him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#647
On May 18 2013 21:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 20:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
DP, going against the starsenses is a dangerous endeavor.

I require you to find a game where grush "fakeclaims" starsenses as scum. Until then, I'm not lynching him.


I've done more than my share by diving every game of his for the past 10 months. The way he claimed star senses this game is clearly different.

I remember him only claiming it after being under pressure before.

And at the end of the day, it's still a meta argument on things that are different than his usual townplay, not things that are like his usual scumplay. These are often bad and wrong arguments.

Do you actually think he's scum, or do you just want to policy-lynch him?


His last scum game was ages ago and before he started using STARSENSES every game. so there is no scum meta to compare to.
And the difference between his starsenses claims are pretty clear if you read my post or the filters I linked.

Regardless WoS is the leading wagon atm what are your opinions of him?


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 15:00 GMT
#675
On May 18 2013 23:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol you fucking guys call me out on thinking a Grush STARSENSES is town and I don't want to vote for him because of that.
What absolute horseshit. DP I don't give a shit if the way he claimed it is different, I'm not being a part of what is most likely a mislynch on Grush.

Then people complaining about me talking about activity? Want me to fucking explain? I was at a reunion party last night for 6 hours, during which time LXI ended, and the postgame thread exploded, I had to read through the obs QT, and an extra 10 pages in both this game and the other game in which I am currently playing, meanwhile the time when I can actually BE at my computer there is never that much activity to speak of. So yeah, I was fucking complaining, Have at me.

Dandel what the fuck have I done that wasn't townie? Every fucking game you people latch onto one post I make that you deem scummy for whatever stupid fucking reason, decide I'm scum, I prove I'm not, and then you fucking ignore me. So goddamn frustrating.

I see at least marv seems to share my thoughts about JJD and sputnik being scummy, but then says he wants to tunnel me...alright I guess? What do you have to say?


OK fine. Assuming you are town. Who would you like to lynch?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 15:01 GMT
#676
And explain your town read on grush while your at it. Because, Whilst my meta on grush may not be enough to lynch him it sure as fuck isn't good enough for a town read or calling him a mislynch.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 15:03 GMT
#679
On May 18 2013 23:00 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 17:18 yamato77 wrote:
I can see where you're coming from, I suppose.

If there's no better lynch when I look at the game tomorrow, I would be fine lynching him.

What do you think about Marv?


Marv doesn't look good. But I tunnelled him the last two times I played with him and was wrong so I am trying to be restrained this time.

I think I made a post which said marv didn't look good.

He said he wanted to lynch me for no reason, and hasn't mentioned it since.

Ah fuck it. One sec. I didn't like the fact he tried to start like 4 wagons with no explanation at all in the space of like 20 min.
On May 18 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
I'm kinda interested in DarthPunk. no real reason. say what you all?

1 min later after Iamp says i look townie

On May 18 2013 08:31 marvellosity wrote:
wanna kill blazing, iamp? i'm totally game.

4min later
On May 18 2013 08:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm voting for blazing. his stutters case is totally underwhelming.

##vote: blazinghand


He unvotes (never votes in voting thread) blazing like 7 min later

On May 18 2013 08:51 marvellosity wrote:
i can get on a wagon.

LOOK AT GRUSH PLEASE PEOPLE, I COULD KILL HIM TOO.

##vote: JJD


Votes JJD cause ????

On May 18 2013 08:53 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: grush57




This would be more of an indication that marv is town than he is scum. Marv is very deliberate as scum and tries to position himself as best as possible. Him running around like a chicken with its head cut off points to more likely being town.


Yeah I figure that after the last 3 games or w/e, which is why i said I was trying not to do it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 18 2013 15:09 GMT
#683
On May 19 2013 00:04 grush57 wrote:
DP you're pickin and choosing what I said.
If I ever claim STARSENSES I will be town. NO MATTER WAHT. AND I DID OKAY?

heres some more for ya babe

STARSENSES
STARSENSES
STARSENSES
STARSENSES
STARSENSES


OK. I believe you. But if you are scum and are lying STARSENSES will never work for you again. I hope you understand what that means.

Also don't say i pick and chose. I went through 10 months of games to meta that. And those were literally the only two times you forgot to say it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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