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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 14:32 GMT
#2841
I mean apart from anything else, why would you be asking the SK to aim at me and not s0lstice? That doesn't add up at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 16:24 GMT
#2843
As far as I can tell JJD is outright claiming scum by saying that s0lstice is clearly mafia but SK should be shooting at me. But yeah. Dead thread is dead ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 16:28 GMT
#2844
I'm wrestling with this grush thing too. Normally Starsenses is pretty safe, but the way it had to be prised out of him this game combined with his even-worse-than-usual activity combined with the last minute delurk to vote for GK out of the blue yesterday is... well, horrible.

Vayne also refused my overtures to switch his vote to JJD, and then disappeared completely for the flip. To me it's not natural at all for a townie to be present very close before the flip but then subsequently not be around at all for the flip to see what happened and to comment on it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 17:01 GMT
#2847
s0lstice, so much of what you write sounds natural and townie to me and yet you've had some real wtf moments with your read on me and your stance switch on JJD yesterday.

By the way I'm going to say this now in case I forget later, and this is the first night in a while I feel like I have a reasonable chance of being killed:

townies should remember to no-lynch where appropriate.

I've checked and we can ##vote: no-lynch, so if the game somehow gets down to a 2-1-1 situation, town must absolutely vote for a no-lynch and hope to get lucky, because lynching anyone loses immediately. By posting this I'm also hopefully forcing mafia/SK to follow along with this in the hope that they stay hidden from all other factions. Don't forget!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 19:16 GMT
#2858
so who DO you suspect, Vayne?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 20:59 GMT
#2861
Anyway, in case I die, some uninformed thoughts of where my head's at currently:

WaveofShadow: I think he's town, could be SK but who knows, but I'm guessing town. Has weird spikes of activity but I don't think that means much. Seems genuinely frustrated at the game, and was on JJD instead of GK, which gets him some points.

s0lstice: I've come round to the idea that at least he's not-mafia. He may be SK, but he could well be town too. I'd hedge my bets on town, but meh. A lot of his posts feel sincere and genuine, his thought process is laid out and doesn't look contrived. There's a couple of things that leave me unsure, namely his weird game-long pursuit of me and him suddenly declaring JJD town yesterday when it was obviously a quite important moment.



grush - fuck this guy. Whatever.

JJD - kill with fire. Cherry on the cake is stupid SK direction.

Vayne - after some truly wtf moments at the start of the game I had him written off as town and I think I could well have been wrong to do so. I don't really get what there is of his analysis, he was supposed to be a night-kill person but I've seen nothing particularly illuminating. He was on GK yesterday, and he seems to be making reads in a total vacuum. I no longer think he's town. This is without a proper filter read, but I wanted it down.

DarthPunk - I bold this guy because here's where it gets interesting. The whole game, me included until recently, has had him written off as town. I've basically not read his filter at all, but some things to note:
- he's one of the few people in the game who could pull off that BH pursuit as mafia
- his activity and interest has been flagging, but he wasn't upfront and blase about it as I might expect a townie to be. He only made his excuse after both me and... WoS was it? called him out on it.
- his s0lstice attitude. s0lstice was mafia all of a sudden, but on Day 4 we only got a case out of him when he was prodded for it. Now in this night phase, he's come round to thinking s0lstice isn't mafia, following MY sentiment, and also following a "reread of his filter" and recent posting. Personally I don't think s0lstice's posting has changed THAT much, and, further, it's a pretty convenient time for him to find s0lstice town now AFTER the lynch. The whole flip flop makes very little sense to me.
- he's alive! DP has been by and large the one universal town read all game, and yet consistently he's not been killed off. Why? (I'm aware this can be to an extent applied to me too, but I've had significantly more heat). I don't get why mafia would leave DP alive for so long. He could well be hiding behind the fact that *I'm* alive - notice how he consistently calls me confirmed town virtually, and seems frustrated when people are suspicious of me. Now I'm loathe to quote mafia scum as a reference, but from their WIFOM section wiki:
You are a Townie in three-player LyLo with two other players who have cross-voted - who you vote for will decide the game. One of them has looked moderately scummy throughout the entire game and appeared to fly under the radar, while the other one has for the most part looked extremely pro-Town throughout - enough to make you wonder why they were never targeted by a night kill. Who should you vote for?

Caveat: A surprising proportion of the time, the correct answer is to lynch the one who looks extremely pro-Town.


When it gets this late in the game, nightkills aren't really WIFOM anymore; there's a consistent pattern of a universal town read who's a strong player being mysteriously left alive.
- I would note he can't be SK, as Stutters jailed him N1 (I'm assuming).

Again, I've not read his filter, but a bunch of these things have been adding up recently. I'm also well aware that I may be about to look extremely stupid if DP is night-killed tonight, in which case... I'm an idiot. But given he's basically been above question all game, I needed to bring this up, because I don't trust DP at all anymore.

One more thing - don't forget to no-lynch at 2-1-1 if that's where you get to.

Probably this was all a waste of time, but there you have it folks.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:00 GMT
#2862
no don't shoot s0lstice
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#2863
shoot Vayne
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#2864
or DP
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#2865
no, Vayne. I'm going to be quiet now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#2866
If s0lstice is actually mafia i think he's played really well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:03 GMT
#2870
gg

JarJar you're a donkey.

Glad I got DP and Vayne at the end, but a terrible game from me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:04 GMT
#2872
WoS had me fooled though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:06 GMT
#2881
On May 30 2013 06:04 sciberbia wrote:
gg all. entertaining game to watch. In particular I found it interesting how scum somehow managed to convince town that there was an SK out there somewhere.


It does say scum KP is fixed at 1.

And I did offer up the thought that it could have been mafia KP and I was shut down.

I think town was terribly weak with its roles this game (both masons are non-confirmed) and should DEFINITELY have had KP. Town needed a vigilante.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:07 GMT
#2883
On May 30 2013 06:04 Blazinghand wrote:
and of course since DP is 3p survivor he doesn't need to change his thing. lynching me, the town MVP for this game, was still a shit move by town though


lol, get a grip.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:09 GMT
#2888
On May 30 2013 06:08 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 06:07 marvellosity wrote:
On May 30 2013 06:04 Blazinghand wrote:
and of course since DP is 3p survivor he doesn't need to change his thing. lynching me, the town MVP for this game, was still a shit move by town though


lol, get a grip.


I really was the best town player this game!


you really weren't. by any stretch.

irritating to start solving this game too late, but never mind. should have paid more attention to Vayne earlier.

Had s0lstice/Vayne/JJD/DP right in the end, only WoS and grush needed interchanging.

oh well
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:10 GMT
#2890
Blazing you're the most deluded player on these forums
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:12 GMT
#2892
the mislynch on you was pretty weak-willed on my part, that much is true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:13 GMT
#2896
not really dandel. thanks for your snide comment though.

And town really needed a vigilante.

This game had basically the same setup as Hero Mini Mafia except mafia got more night-shots, there was one less townie, and town didn't have a vigilante. And mafia won that game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 29 2013 21:17 GMT
#2901
stop being terrible BH. seriously. the only veteran my ass.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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