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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
04:51 PM ET (US)


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im gonna do it because my secondary goal in any game is my enjoyment.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
04:50 PM ET (US)
LOL. like i said up to you. we'll probably have the opportunity tomorrow if we really wanted to, unless we both wind up dead in which case we have some stupid medics.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
04:48 PM ET (US)
but its so setup right now for me to belittle bh

i could say here this is how you mason with marv
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
04:47 PM ET (US)
someone i'm leaning town on right now is mafia for sure, and that's annoying to think about.

personally i wouldn't post the logs, but I wouldn't be massively upset if you did.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
04:46 PM ET (US)
think i should post the logs?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
04:46 PM ET (US)
i don't really have a will. GK probably mafia, BH probably mafia. Not at all sure outside those 2.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
04:45 PM ET (US)
i'm pretty excited. you posting the logs after all?
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
04:41 PM ET (US)
i have my will ready
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
04:40 PM ET (US)
and i can only mason a player once means i have to talk to some jabronie for 24 hours. Im going to use it like a dt check going forward.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
04:36 PM ET (US)
damn, it sucks we only get 24 hours. masoning is so nice.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
04:24 PM ET (US)
nope. the biggest thing for me was how he seemed to be justifying masoning me like I posted earlier in the thread.
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PromethelaxPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
04:15 PM ET (US)
Just a reminder this QT closes in ~45 minutes
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
04:04 PM ET (US)
anything good from bh in his qt?
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
04:03 PM ET (US)
if your right about gk it means once again i was right about something and doubted myself
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
02:29 PM ET (US)
lol yes
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
02:22 PM ET (US)
as for more host wifom prom post in the other thread makes me think this what a straight up rng.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
01:53 PM ET (US)
Eponine makes a lot of sense as town mason.

She carried messages from Marius to Cosette and vice versa.

The fact you received a VT name suggests pretty heavily that mafia were given a list of safe fakeclaim names.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
01:29 PM ET (US)
Eponine Thénardier is the mason and Courfeyrac is the town for what its worth i havent seen the play so i have no clue what any of its significance is
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
01:28 PM ET (US)
i received a vanilla town name along with my blue name for some reason as well.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
01:27 PM ET (US)
/M101 as in i doubt your scum was what i meant but i think you knew what i meant
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
01:08 PM ET (US)
I can be epically devious as you well know.

The thought that was running through my head at the time is that Gavroche is quite an important figure for Prome not to use as an actual town player. Before the game I remembered him mentioning that he was struggling to come up with enough names in order for fakeclaims.

but yeah, i'm not lynching/not-lynching someone because of their role-name after all.
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iamperfection
05-20-2013
01:00 PM ET (US)
Unless your being epically devious that erases any doubt your scum
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
12:22 PM ET (US)
i'm host wifoming, forget it.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
12:19 PM ET (US)
what's your role name btw?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
11:38 AM ET (US)
there's a tremendous amount of fucking going on this game, and almost none of it is coming from me.

Alarming.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
11:06 AM ET (US)
mm.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
11:05 AM ET (US)
dandel being very i dont give a shit if you think im scum
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:47 AM ET (US)
I'd quite like DP and JJD to argue with each other for a while.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:45 AM ET (US)
if they are both mafia, it's 100% pre-planned.

it's not something like I've ever seen a BH-mafia plan before though.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:44 AM ET (US)
pre planned perhaps
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:41 AM ET (US)
thing is, DP may have a point about JJD "knowing", but then i don't understand why he just randomly bussed him straight out of the gate.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:32 AM ET (US)
lol. the way you answered it makes you sound like a motivation coach
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:31 AM ET (US)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...currentpage=80#1600

i hate questions like this of course its possible almost anything is possible
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:26 AM ET (US)
if he doesn't do a good reference to meta in whatever case he comes up with, I think that's virtually a scumclaim too.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:25 AM ET (US)
ya. i'd shoot him if I had a gun.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:23 AM ET (US)
that said he did say he was going to filter dive then didnt post anything.

We should probably kill him if he doesn't do shit before the deadline
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:21 AM ET (US)
yeah, he went to bed a couple hours ago which is about 4am for him, right?

it's in the thread.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:20 AM ET (US)
bh stays up really late by the way he goes to bed at like 4 am for him
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:15 AM ET (US)
that was a terrible trap because it was so transparent. you've not got my guile dear, which is part of your charm.

Looking at it, it does really seem pretty unlikely that JJD is mafia with BH.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:13 AM ET (US)
/m81

You claimed you had never scum sliped and i asked you if that was fact
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:12 AM ET (US)
BH is asleep
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:12 AM ET (US)
I don't even remember. I paid so little attention to that game other than at a couple of specific points.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:12 AM ET (US)
anything coming from bh during all this?
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:11 AM ET (US)
not as good as my trap from hydra mini
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:09 AM ET (US)
come on JJD, answer :p I do love me some trapping.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:04 AM ET (US)
interesting. i'll put it to him and see what reaction we get.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:03 AM ET (US)
but its a little diffrent
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:03 AM ET (US)
that said he is not taking into account that he could be bussing his scum partner bh so in a sense he is accusing dp of what he is in fact potentially currently doing.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:02 AM ET (US)
i checked DP's filter and he does mention JJD in passing as a scumread. Like half a sentence. Seems like a weird thing to go on the attack over.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
10:01 AM ET (US)
I'm an expert in my own ego
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
10:00 AM ET (US)
well we are experts in ego we should be able to figure it out
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:59 AM ET (US)
can't tell if mafia bullshitting or townie with some really ego-centric paranoia
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:55 AM ET (US)
jar jar taking more than 5 min to respond.....
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:49 AM ET (US)
see below
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:48 AM ET (US)
this aint no newbie game
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:47 AM ET (US)
he played as a newbie in Mario and he was really quiet, and was balls to the wall aggressive as mafia in his next game. it was odd.

I generally agree with you about Spicy's filter, but the sputnik thing is significant enough on its own for me to be worried about it.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:47 AM ET (US)
/m64 seems just stupid to me
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:46 AM ET (US)
i remember the name i dont remember what game that was from or what he did
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:46 AM ET (US)
that JJD post is god awful.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:41 AM ET (US)
maybe. do you remember a dude called Kickstart?
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:40 AM ET (US)
i like his filter a lot though seems to aggressive for newbie scum
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:37 AM ET (US)
although Spicy has looked good for other reasons, his sputnik stuff is really grating on me. I don't like that he argued to GK that sputnik was a scumread, while he'd been arguing that sputnik was so scummy he was probably town. it doesn't feel right
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:34 AM ET (US)
solistice comes to mind but i dont really have a reason mostly just because and by elimination
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:32 AM ET (US)
almost certainly, yes. they're not all going to be in the low-posters.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:31 AM ET (US)
something isn't right because this seeming way to hard to find someone that is extremely likely to be scum unless the "slip" is real which you know me i dont really care for slips that much.

Someone is posting a lot and is scum
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:30 AM ET (US)
but he bothered to show up to last minute vote
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:28 AM ET (US)
/m55 he didn't seem to care about the lynch though
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:27 AM ET (US)
apart from his shit-fest his filter doesn't actually look that bad to me. sigh.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:27 AM ET (US)
why at work do customers on the phone feel compelled to give me their life story.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:17 AM ET (US)
it might be dandel-warranted though.

I just browsed it quickly, his defence was that he usually trolls when he comes in, i know that, so i'm being mafia.

could he genuinely believe that?
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:14 AM ET (US)
of course it wasn't warranted according to him he hadn't read most of the thread before it started.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:11 AM ET (US)
should probably go back and read the very start of our shit-fest, to see if he was at all warranted in starting it
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:10 AM ET (US)
yeah i noticed that carnival thing too.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:10 AM ET (US)
maybe. When I'm off work I need to look into his back history.

As far as I recall, he came under massive pressure in Chrono for the early game and he was town, and the same in The Game. He has this tendency to do this post ---> afk thing I think.

I remember finding him very suspicious in Rock Band (replaced by palmar - mafia) for complaining about something out of place, and in LVII he was basically caught for making a really over-constructed post. I'd like to take a look at LVII again in particular.

His vote has moved around quite a bit on day 1 which is generally a town trait. But he's also made some significant mistakes like his misapplication of meta, and I actually think Spicy's argument against him is pretty decent.

I dunno.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:06 AM ET (US)
and dandel posted a vote count in carnival but hasn't bother to post here
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:04 AM ET (US)
anyways goodkarma seems to have this tendency to show up post some nice stuff then disappear like mission accomplished. Think he has a good shot to flip scum?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:04 AM ET (US)
*half a minute *before* deadline
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:03 AM ET (US)
If you don't trust me, post our logs like half a minute like deadline. Just like you'd claim a vigi shot.

I will shout at you so hard post-game if you claim right this minute because it's 100% unnecessary.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:02 AM ET (US)
/m42

but how can we be sure our logs will get out unless we completely trust each other
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:01 AM ET (US)
BH being one alignment or another is irrelevant to the fact there was about 7 pages of back and forth ridiculous argument, which was... messy.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:00 AM ET (US)
like it's really dumb to claim blue in the middle of the night when you look townie already.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
09:00 AM ET (US)
/m38

Mess in this instance is extremely ambiguous. Bh can only be one thing or the other.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
09:00 AM ET (US)
why paint a target on your back for tonight? wait until later.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
08:59 AM ET (US)
im revealing to the thread now want to see how the thread reacts
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
08:58 AM ET (US)
why is it curious? it is a mess. stop being paranoid.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
08:50 AM ET (US)
curios word choice to use "mess"

you aren't playing me for the fool marv are you
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
08:19 AM ET (US)
wait... no he was making that argument earlier, now he's saying he's mafia. i wonder.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
08:19 AM ET (US)
it's just icky. BH's explanations look so ludicrous.

BH's effort into this game has also been less than the effort he was putting into the other games he was in at the same time, I think.

i wonder if rayn thinks BH is town just because of the mason thing.
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Iamperfection
05-20-2013
08:16 AM ET (US)
what do you mean by mess?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
05:55 AM ET (US)
this BH thing is such a mess.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-20-2013
05:22 AM ET (US)
the heuristic you use on jarjar often doesn't work.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
09:33 PM ET (US)
stutter jarjar and spicy grush are the 4 guys i would say are "lurkers at this point

Spicy seems to go against thread sentiment whenever he enter but seems to be backing it with good reasoning and is being forceful so i would say townie

Stutters who the fuck knows i hope he eats a vig bullet

Grush- Dp had a good point maybe grush finally decided to give it up because he has been absolutely useless

jarjar- arg i cant really tell. I cant wrap my head around him being scum and potentially going up against a "town" bh
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
08:32 PM ET (US)
somebody must be playing a good scum game i think
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
06:07 PM ET (US)
the possibility of bandwagoning is a legitimiate one. Towns with us in it can sway massively last minute.

the question is, does this outweigh how good/bad dandel looks if later on the game he can say he was on another wagon
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:53 PM ET (US)
hrm but why did dandel vote sputnik he didn't need to.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:47 PM ET (US)
oh no apparently that is a town aligned role with kp i guess
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:46 PM ET (US)
I've no idea. vayne is a mindfuck.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:45 PM ET (US)
why would vayne think that is what bh claimed? What he linked would be like claiming third party wouldn't it?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:45 PM ET (US)
see how he's justifying masoning me?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:43 PM ET (US)
"I picked you since you're the man "

"Seriously though since you're like the towniest player in the thread, by masoning you I assure that people don't say "oh BH is masoning his scumbuddy who has fakeclaimed being masoned". Also we have more to gain putting our heads together than a typical pair would. "
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:41 PM ET (US)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...currentpage=67#1329

makes me think he is most likely town
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:39 PM ET (US)
what did he say?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:39 PM ET (US)
but BH almost HAS to mason me, doesn't he.

if he masons someone else as mafia, it looks like he's dodging.

which is why i didn't like his dicksucking at the start of the QT we have.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:36 PM ET (US)
but what is scum bh trying to do convince you he is town then kill you. that would seem difficult and pretty risky.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:36 PM ET (US)
yeah i'm not entirely sure what to think of rayn. i don't think he's tomorrow's lynch though.

i can never say such things in thread, but lynching BH for information would have been so fucking useful.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:34 PM ET (US)
/m15

that would seem logical
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:33 PM ET (US)
rayn has been bat shit crazy for awhile now
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:28 PM ET (US)
if we think about this, if BH is mafia and he's a scum mason, mafia are likely to assume there's a town mason too. logical assumption?

so perhaps the people who sincerely believe BH is the lone mason are more likely to be town?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:26 PM ET (US)
yes, two town masons can indeed exist.
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:26 PM ET (US)
I think we should leave it until right before the deadline or until tomorrow.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:26 PM ET (US)
like i guess two masons can exist it isnt impossible and we have seen him derp just like this before
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:25 PM ET (US)
/m9 yeah
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:25 PM ET (US)
we can post logs by the way i already asked
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:24 PM ET (US)
that you're masoned with me?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:24 PM ET (US)
I'm trying not to think about Vayne because he makes my head hurt. Otherwise I agree with you.

It's players like s0lstice we need to keep our eyes on.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:24 PM ET (US)
at least
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:24 PM ET (US)
think i should reveal it to the thread it would cause some conversation
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:23 PM ET (US)
he's sucking my dick and i don't like it, lol
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:23 PM ET (US)
vayne dp yamato and yourself would be my strongest town reads at the moment
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
05-19-2013
05:18 PM ET (US)
yes, I had. hello friend.

BH masoned me.
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Iamperfection
05-19-2013
05:16 PM ET (US)
im guessing you already figured this out