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What I don't get is the board's role. How does it influence what happens to the players? Does an angel AND the player behind it simply die if he ends up in the flashlight of a townie? | ||
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In the OP there's no mentioning of the angel's knowledge about other player's movement speed, cause if they don't know it, it might not be the smartest idea to claim it. Do Angels know the players' movement speeds? | ||
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It might not be the best idea to claim our movement speed to the whole thread. Angels will know when a player is possibly dangerous for them by knowing how far he can go to cross their path. | ||
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On May 15 2013 07:24 Blazinghand wrote: Maybe we should all claim our movement patterns JUST before the lynch happens. Mafia won't have time to send in imitation movements between our claim and the day ending. This would probably be the best way for us to identify ourselves on the game board. This is a good idea. Claim choices and speed shortly before the phase ends. People might end up doing the same movements though, but if everyone moves at maximum speed we will be able to sort it out and narrow down the options. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to look for the sides, it might make you less vulnerable, but also more predictable for the angels. On May 15 2013 23:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Not accusing him, his fluff came to me as more eagerness to do something productive than anything else Posting fluff and doing something productive are two different things. He's telling us what to do, but without a plan to do it. I'm kinda reading this as a weak justification to marv's pressure. Do you currently have any reads worth mentioning, in your opinion? | ||
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On May 16 2013 03:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: But wouldn't mkfuba have to actively respond to the PM to participate in the game? I wouldn't say lynch him outright, but I'm a little suspicious. Let's see how the day goes though. My only red leaning read at this point is Vivax, whose filter after game start seems to be weak counterarguments to a fairly solid plan. His last post (the big one) also references the fact that with everyone moving at max speed, it would be easier to discern who is who. After explicitly saying that by learning this, Angels can figure out who is dangerous and vulnerable. I feel as if he is looking for this information for this reason. ##Vote: Vivax This is a scumslip, the host explicitly said that it's possible that the angels know our movement speeds already. You showing this level of security as to immediately call me scum in spite of that fact, is proof that you are either not reading the thread with your due diligence, or scum with the information that angels don't know our movement speed, given your overall play I'm strongly leaning on the latter. I'm expecting your explanation for this, and I want reads from you on every player who posted something substantial in the thread. | ||
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On May 16 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote: dude. Read the setup talk. There is nothing of value that we can do day 1 when we dont even know which piece we are. Marv, I wanted you to explain about Please? for me? Sweet babe  Deconduo and Sentinel. Huh. Deconduo. All fucking setup talk, no scumhunting. This isnt unique btw, there are a few people like him. They cant all be scum though, as much as I would want it. Wait and see, WAIT AND SEE. Deconduo, top 2 scumspects. GOOOO. Sentinel, I liked his analysis on fferyllt. nothing more though, as of now, he is in my DO NOT LYNCH pile. Is this serious? He literally said that FF looks productive for posting fluff. | ||
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Sentinel looks sure that they don't know it. It's a matter of picking more information for us or less information for the angels (in the case that they DON'T know it), which isn't even sure. Let's say 4 of us have MS 3, then 4 have 4, last 4 have 5. If we purposefully slow down our movement it will be harder to discern who is who, at best if 3 of the MS 5 players move slower, then we could be sure about who is the remaining MS 5 player. It's essentially a gamble on the angels having that information or not having it, let's talk a little about it. | ||
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On May 16 2013 05:23 Zephirdd wrote: >ctrl+f speed on crossfire's and greymist's filter > one match, saying Okay I didn't understand what you meant with this one | ||
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On May 16 2013 05:34 Zephirdd wrote: Ok. We have facing direction and movement direction to discern each other. Done talking. Can you form a case on Sentinel bigger than the said "scumslip"? I had forgotten about the question of the MS you made, and I don't think it's impossible that the same happened there. It's literally on the first page since the game started. Maybe he has a similarly bad memory as yours, but he didn't even try to persuade me that my argumentation was bad, he rather preferred to call me scum immediately for something that is an idea worth considering. Which is something you did as well, but unlike Sentinel, you didn't vote me and fuck off, you kept poking. Hopping onto a quick reason, call someone scum and disappear without questioning your scumread is a solid tell for Sentinel being scum, added to his weird defense of FF. | ||
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His defense of Sentinel doesn't make any sense. He complains about setup talk when this is essentially a team board game. No WIFOM mindfucks, lynch people playing for scum. Unless he starts contributing meaningfully, he's up for the gallows. | ||
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On May 16 2013 08:54 ghost_403 wrote: *crickets in the thread* And people wonder why I don't post. A brief retort at Marv and Dec: Only an idiot would completely ignore the mechanics of a game. I chimed in my two cents, and then I was off to scum hunt. Unfortunately, it seems that no one is around whenever I'm here. Your reasons for voting me are terrible. Not a good sign, haven't decided what to make of that. I'm not impressed by Dec's play, but I might just be mad at him for voting me. I really don't like Oats play this game: plans are good, plans are bad, I'm on board, I feel like he's all over the place. I can't be arsed to look into his meta, otherwise I would lynch him for begin all over the place and generally unhelpful. BH's vouching for his meta is stopping me from voting him at the moment. I trust his read, haven't thought too much about his alignment. I'm not happy with Vivax's play, but I'm never happy with Vivax's play. I really don't like this post: + Show Spoiler + On May 16 2013 05:17 Vivax wrote: This is a scumslip, the host explicitly said that it's possible that the angels know our movement speeds already. You showing this level of security as to immediately call me scum in spite of that fact, is proof that you are either not reading the thread with your due diligence, or scum with the information that angels don't know our movement speed, given your overall play I'm strongly leaning on the latter. I'm expecting your explanation for this, and I want reads from you on every player who posted something substantial in the thread. It seems passionate and poorly thought out. He's not trying to figure out Sentinel's alignment, or really thinking about what's going on; he's trying to push him onto the defensive and start an easy lynch. It kind of looks like he immediately dropped it, but it is kind of hard to tell at this point in the game. Until someone convinces me that leaving Vivax in game is a good idea, ##vote vivax Sentinel actually did what you're accusing me of, as you would know if you read my posts. Could you specify what you mean with "I immediately dropped it, but it's hard to tell?" and what relevance does it have for your read? | ||
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To not get modkilled maybe. Do you think that post looks scummy? | ||
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On May 16 2013 19:29 Oatsmaster wrote: yes. 13 pages. And he has no reads. Like where is the town motivation for posting this post? It does not help town at all. At all. So he says he has reads. But oh man I dont really wanna share them cause they are MINE, MINE!!!!!!. Also he overexplains his acceptance of the obviously great plan. That post is so bad that I could see it coming from a townie, actually. I'd rather expect him to do some forced bullshit push, or jump on the bandwagon against me at this point, not apologize and admit that he's got nothing to contribute. + Show Spoiler + Two questions: - What's your read on Oats - What do you think of Sentinel's latest posting? | ||
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Sentinel gets townie points for pointing out a selectivity that would favor him. I'm just troubled with ghost showing a preference at all. It's possible he and sentinel are scumbuddies, but why does sentinel point it out then? | ||
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I feel he was needlessly antagonistic, and he didn't seem interested in setup discussion. He is more cooperative now though. | ||
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On May 16 2013 20:59 marvellosity wrote: Vivax, who do you want to kill right now? Oats cause he played like scum, and I wouldn't regret the loss if he's town. Frankly I don't understand how you can give him a townread just like that, I would like you to expand on it, and also your opinion on BH quickly abandoning the Oats option and then claiming towards me to have laid out reasoning for Oats being town, when he has only sheeped your reasoning IIRC. As for others, I'll wait for the return of Sentinel and Ghost to comment on the situation. Sharrant if he doesn't post more. He's usually very lengthy and insightful as town. | ||
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If your whole reason for voting me is OMGUS, you will have to keep that vote on me brah | ||
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