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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 18:46:21
May 10 2013 18:46 GMT
#87
is this game full?

I'll /in if it's not

edit: still a wraith...
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 11 2013 01:24 GMT
#96
On May 11 2013 03:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:46 chaoser wrote:
is this game full?

I'll /in if it's not

edit: still a wraith...


HI CHOWSER!


hey kita, hows it going lol, who still plays
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 02:40:35
May 12 2013 02:39 GMT
#108
On May 12 2013 01:23 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 10:24 chaoser wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:57 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:46 chaoser wrote:
is this game full?

I'll /in if it's not

edit: still a wraith...


HI CHOWSER!


hey kita, hows it going lol, who still plays

How's being a doctor? You were training/studying to become one right?


it's coming along lol, I'm almost there!

funny medical story: one of the attendings had to explain to this black woman that her white blood cell count was a bit low and she legit said "why i got white cells?? I'm black!"
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 13:18 GMT
#127
/confirm
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 20:01 GMT
#179
On May 13 2013 03:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok. Cool.

I am a Wall street Investor. Which is a self aware miller.


darth, can you give me the reasoning behind you claiming this?

also, what does WoS acronym mean?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 20:01 GMT
#180
nvm
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#183
On May 13 2013 05:00 DarthPunk wrote:
I believe it was optimal for me to claim and prevent cops potentially wasting a check on me when I can just claim and then you all can discuss in the thread what to do. Information denial only assists mafia.

I understand that there are different schools of thought about claiming miller. But I am of the school that believes it is optimal to claim miller straight away and then get vigged or something worst case scenario rather than getting checked, wasting that check, going 'oh yeah I'm a miller guise don't lynch me' and then wasting a mislynch.

Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.

They only way I would claim miller like this was if I was, in fact, a miller and therefore town.



So you're against us wasting a check and then possible lynch on you but you're ok with us using a vigi on you? is that what you're saying?

Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.


that's a wine in front of me thing isn't it (i forgot that acronym...)
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 20:04 GMT
#184
wifom!
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 20:11 GMT
#188
On May 13 2013 05:08 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:03 chaoser wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:00 DarthPunk wrote:
I believe it was optimal for me to claim and prevent cops potentially wasting a check on me when I can just claim and then you all can discuss in the thread what to do. Information denial only assists mafia.

I understand that there are different schools of thought about claiming miller. But I am of the school that believes it is optimal to claim miller straight away and then get vigged or something worst case scenario rather than getting checked, wasting that check, going 'oh yeah I'm a miller guise don't lynch me' and then wasting a mislynch.

Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.

They only way I would claim miller like this was if I was, in fact, a miller and therefore town.



So you're against us wasting a check and then possible lynch on you but you're ok with us using a vigi on you? is that what you're saying?

Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.


that's a wine in front of me thing isn't it (i forgot that acronym...)

Nah what he said makes sense. He was pretty good as mafia in the newbie game I was in with him long ago, and I'm sure he's improved upon it from listening to the mafia podcast he was on.


his reasoning for "not wanting to waste a check" but "ok with wasting a vigi" is confusing to me, I'd still like for him to clarify that for me. Not to mention I'd rather he answer the questions I ask him, not someone else answering
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 20:47 GMT
#216
Promethelax, what do you think about obviousone? if the lynch was going to happen right now and you had total control over it, who do you think would be the best lynch and why? DP?

can you explain why you said

If anyone claims miller at any point after n0 we should auto-lynch them, if scum wants to fake claim it they had better do it today (or have already done it today).


what was the purpose of that statement?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 20:55 GMT
#226
On May 13 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Only think I don't like about your claim is why N0, DP?
You're calling for us to waste a vigi shot that could be put to possible better use later on in the game.


you don't have to shoot now.... Like obviously I don't want to die. I would RATHER be vigged than lynched though. if it comes to that. Hopefully you can all read my alignment by all the posts I am making clearly outlining the reasons behind my actions.

How about you stop defending your sole action and start scumhunting instead?


that's a ridiculous statement to make...
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 12 2013 21:26 GMT
#244
ok, darth, getting off the defending for the moment and your discussion? with obviousone, who you might have a history with?

what do you think of promethelax and ray?

what about you obviousone? aside from darthpunk, do you have any thoughts on some of the other players?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 00:17 GMT
#272
wow...did tlmafia get MORE trolly since i've been gone?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 00:46 GMT
#279
Can you all please stop cluttering up the thread? there's really no point for the trolling or one word posts like "dunked", it doesn't add to the game and going back alter to read stuff is going to be a bitch
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 01:43 GMT
#286
On May 13 2013 10:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 09:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2013 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anyone who doesn't post a gif is scum imo.

[image loading]


oh WoS stop being so helpful you are drowning me in helpfulness

omg stop

plz

I can try, but no promises. Tell, me was Fat Tony playing the worlds smallest scum violin for you?

Chaoser did you used to play with RebirthofLegend? What are your views regarding how mafia 'should' be played by a town?


I don't understand the question and how it pertains to the game currently but I'll try to answer anyway.
Townies should play unafraid and by putting pressure on people and open, I don't really care for the "trolling, get a reaction, way" but I'm sure I've done it a few times in the past before. I feel like I've always played the best when I was playing to figure stuff out and not be afraid of a lynch.

yes I use to play with RoL, how's he doing these days? is he still playing?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 02:14 GMT
#292
what do you think is the correct way to play town, waveofshadow?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 02:43 GMT
#295
On May 13 2013 11:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 11:14 chaoser wrote:
what do you think is the correct way to play town, waveofshadow?

where are you going with this chaoser?


he asked me so i asked him back, either way i'm going to sleep, I got a hospital shift tomorrow so I'll be back late-ish but I'll check in 1PM-2PM ish
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 11:04 GMT
#416
leaving for work, but before I do,
##Vote raynpelikoneet
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 11:26 GMT
#417
also I was roleblocked last night
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 19:38 GMT
#531
On May 13 2013 17:01 Promethelax wrote:
My assumption is that scum did shoot DP because that makes most sense in this set-up. As such I think you are town based on your calling it a vig shot. If however it turns out DP was vigged my reads reverse it doesn't matter that OO/WoS had reasons for scum to hit DP and it does matter that you thought he was vigged.

I, as scum, wouldn't want to hit 3p day one. OO clearly thought it was optimal scum play though.


Prom, I don't understand this statement, why would oatsmaster thinking DP got vigged make you think he's a townie?

why does OO thinking DP got shot for being third party make you think he's scum? It's not as if he's the only person on the scum team. Like you stated, scum doesn't want to shoot third party on N0.

Your last statement about how OO clearly thought it was optimal scum play and the fact that you think OO is mafia, are you saying the rest of his team also thought shooting DP who, in their minds is a third party, was the optimal move?

On May 13 2013 18:24 Promethelax wrote:
As I said, I don't see rayn as totes town or anything silly like that. I just don't think he is most likely scum with how he pressured DP and interacted with him. It seemed like a genuine desire to push DP and not a time waster/look active kind of push.
You think Rayn likely staged his push on DP and followed it up by killing him?


what pressure? he posted two useless posts telling DP to stop defending himself and then left after saying everyone else was townie. Are you saying that is what a genuine desire looks like to you?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 19:47 GMT
#536
On May 14 2013 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
chaoser can you tell me what did DP do that counts as scumhunting before i told him to stop defending himself?


1) What chance did he have of scumhunting after his miller claim when pretty much everyone was on him?

2) Do you not consider his questioning of obviousone's posts and pressure on him scum hunting?

3) What was the purpose of your posts to DP? what was your goal with those two posts and then leaving? pressure?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 21:45 GMT
#589
On May 14 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 04:47 chaoser wrote:
On May 14 2013 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
chaoser can you tell me what did DP do that counts as scumhunting before i told him to stop defending himself?


1) What chance did he have of scumhunting after his miller claim when pretty much everyone was on him?

2) Do you not consider his questioning of obviousone's posts and pressure on him scum hunting?

3) What was the purpose of your posts to DP? what was your goal with those two posts and then leaving? pressure?

1) That was the whole point. As he claimed miller he should have not defended himself and his claim after that. Of course people are going to jump on a scummy claim like that. The correct way to deal with everyone being on him would have been to say "you think this is scummy, i don't, deal with it. Now drop the issue and go find scum, if you think i'm scum, vote for me D1 and we work from there". That's why i told him to go do something useful.

2) No i didn't at that time. However as i said i now agree with Prome on OO and his contributions with DP (and the night kills).

3) Yes, pressure and creating topics to discuss (this includes me wanting people to discuss me). That's also why i said to DP "everyone besides you is probably town besides you". I'm kinda surprised noone else than shirokami brought that up. I also thought at that point everyone else did look town, as not many people had posted real content. If you look at my past games i always want to create discussion at the start of the game. You can also find out what i do think about miller claims in a setup where the number of millers is not known.




Shiro: I hope this answers your question aswell.

chaoser: Do you think OO is scummy? If no, why, and why do you think DP was killed?


Is that the correct way to deal with that situation or merely what YOU think is the correct way to deal with that situation. If you think its' the second, how does that make him scummy?

What topic did you create? you put no pressure on him by saying two lines and leaving. Being pressured usually means you're being put on your back foot and will probably be defensive as well as engage in conversation.

1) you didn't have any conversations with him
2) you wanted to put pressure on him but at the same time you thought his defending himself was scummy? how does that work?

I am also ok with lynching obviousone due to his deflections and non-contributions mixed in with his trolling.

I think he was killed cause he was clearly townie.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 13 2013 22:28 GMT
#602
Where's VE, did you change the way you play since the one year I've been gone?
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