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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 19:31 GMT
#166
Some people believe it to be optimal play to claim self-aware miller. I don't really put a lot of stock in early claims and I am perfectly willing to even make shit up for fun as you have seen. If you disagree that's your prerogative. Are you going to lynch him for the claim? If not then we have info for later. If yes then please explain why it is the optimal strategy at this very moment.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 19:35 GMT
#168
On May 13 2013 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's not optimal. It's stupid or mafia.

So you're saying mafia then.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 19:40 GMT
#172
We have a miller claim. He is either:

Miller and will show up red
Mafia and will show up red
Or
Godfather or gaming with a framer role as mafia to bait a check

So potential cop(s) has one less person to check and a potential parity cop(s) knows to steer clear.

Ergo, as I said, analysis will be your salvation.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 19:46 GMT
#174
See like where did he go after the claim? "hey guys I'm gonna show up as mafia if checked just FYI now AFK while I fuck off directly"
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 19:53 GMT
#176
I need to talk to VE. He will be helping me push all the mafia off the ship.

##summon VisceraEyes
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#185
On May 13 2013 05:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:40 ObviousOne wrote:
We have a miller claim. He is either:

Miller and will show up red
Mafia and will show up red
Or
Godfather or gaming with a framer role as mafia to bait a check

So potential cop(s) has one less person to check and a potential parity cop(s) knows to steer clear.

Ergo, as I said, analysis will be your salvation.


So. Are you just saying nothing here while trying to say something. What, exactly does this add to the discussion?

How does listing all the potential 'scenarios' with my claim and then saying they are all irrelevant contribute to the analysis which will 'save' us?

And I don't even know what you are saying with the last bit?

I would claim miller as godfather when i would come back green? Ridiculous.

Haha yeah I realized that after I posted it, that last part, the intent is there but the wording is all fucked up. Godfather w/ framer role in the party was what I meant.

As for the rest, well, there are some really thick skulls so sometimes you have to tell people things they should already be able to think through because you can't trust them to be thinking at all.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:08 GMT
#186
On May 13 2013 05:03 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:00 DarthPunk wrote:
I believe it was optimal for me to claim and prevent cops potentially wasting a check on me when I can just claim and then you all can discuss in the thread what to do. Information denial only assists mafia.

I understand that there are different schools of thought about claiming miller. But I am of the school that believes it is optimal to claim miller straight away and then get vigged or something worst case scenario rather than getting checked, wasting that check, going 'oh yeah I'm a miller guise don't lynch me' and then wasting a mislynch.

Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.

They only way I would claim miller like this was if I was, in fact, a miller and therefore town.



So you're against us wasting a check and then possible lynch on you but you're ok with us using a vigi on you? is that what you're saying?

Show nested quote +
Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.


that's a wine in front of me thing isn't it (i forgot that acronym...)

Nah what he said makes sense. He was pretty good as mafia in the newbie game I was in with him long ago, and I'm sure he's improved upon it from listening to the mafia podcast he was on.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:11 GMT
#189
On May 13 2013 05:09 Vivax wrote:
That sounds like some sick scum powerplay OO. Claim miller as godfather so that your framer has to use his action on you during the night.

I'm impressed

Dude, I'm all about aimless meanderings of the confused and drug addled mind that I just spout into the thread. I can't post sick .gifs from my iPod very easily so I go with what I know. Pure madness.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:18 GMT
#192
On May 13 2013 05:12 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:03 chaoser wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:00 DarthPunk wrote:
I believe it was optimal for me to claim and prevent cops potentially wasting a check on me when I can just claim and then you all can discuss in the thread what to do. Information denial only assists mafia.

I understand that there are different schools of thought about claiming miller. But I am of the school that believes it is optimal to claim miller straight away and then get vigged or something worst case scenario rather than getting checked, wasting that check, going 'oh yeah I'm a miller guise don't lynch me' and then wasting a mislynch.

Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.

They only way I would claim miller like this was if I was, in fact, a miller and therefore town.



So you're against us wasting a check and then possible lynch on you but you're ok with us using a vigi on you? is that what you're saying?

Also it is incredibly unlikely that I as scum decided to fake claim immediately N0 for literally no reason. I am good at playing scum and frankly don't need to resort to cheesy shit like that.


that's a wine in front of me thing isn't it (i forgot that acronym...)


Getting vigged is a worse case scenario and is better than a mislynch from a blown cop check. Obviously.

It is WIFOM but it is also correct.

How likely do you think it would be that on the first day I, as scum, would paint a giant target on my head for literally no reason in order to hopefully get a fake claim through? I don't need to do that. I am good at playing scum. It would be terrible scum play.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:02 Vivax wrote:
Any conclusions from the reactions to your miller claim brah?


I think people trying to read anything scummy into it are either scummy or bad TBH.
I would actually agree with obvious on it if he didn't use so much fluff in his post. It should be null at worst. Don't waste a check and judge me on my contributions.

I'm legitimately sorry that you don't like how I write. I have my past games in my profile if you would like to sample how I write as town (it's actually quite drastically different from my scum play which sucks for next time I roll scum). Please feel free to check specifically into LXI (for your own knowledge, ongoing game) and RED Team's Prize for more recent examples of how my town play goes. How did Keirathi put it? "It's just OO being OO." (paraphrased from memory).
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:31 GMT
#198
You say defensive. I say proactive.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:36 GMT
#204
Darthdude you are good at seeing what isn't there. I like you. We are so alike.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:39 GMT
#208
If he claims tomorrow the Vig shots might already be gone (assuming no restrictions on shots for N0)
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:42 GMT
#213
Because you should not fear the Mafia. The mafia should fear you.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:53 GMT
#221
I do not smell bad. I took a shower last night. And shame on you for sniffing me in public.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 20:55 GMT
#223
[Insert meme picture]

What if the only people who are posting

Are town?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 21:04 GMT
#230
On May 13 2013 05:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:53 ObviousOne wrote:
I do not smell bad. I took a shower last night. And shame on you for sniffing me in public.


For your own sake stop posting stuff like this and try and post something meaningful.

No u?

Your only claim to towniness is your "miller" claim. Mocsta tried that "I will be transparent with my actions" line and he ended up flipping scum at endgame so I'll just take that as a scum claim from you as well because fuck it, that's my prerogative. Town never needs to say that shit because they just do it by action and it's plain as day to anyone thinking about the game. You do it with words and not actions. You are scummy as fuck with this nonsense.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 21:14 GMT
#239
On May 13 2013 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 06:04 ObviousOne wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:53 ObviousOne wrote:
I do not smell bad. I took a shower last night. And shame on you for sniffing me in public.


For your own sake stop posting stuff like this and try and post something meaningful.

No u?

Your only claim to towniness is your "miller" claim. Mocsta tried that "I will be transparent with my actions" line and he ended up flipping scum at endgame so I'll just take that as a scum claim from you as well because fuck it, that's my prerogative. Town never needs to say that shit because they just do it by action and it's plain as day to anyone thinking about the game. You do it with words and not actions. You are scummy as fuck with this nonsense.


So you are now trying to use someone elses meta to call me scum? This is like the third game in a row someone has tried that on me. Scum every time.


Lol so you just walked into that one. You cherry picked the part of my post I added for you to cherry pick and didn't bother to refute the rest. Scum or 3P, guys. You heard it here first.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 21:17 GMT
#241
On the road for a bit. AFK mothers day traffic. Brb
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 22:17 GMT
#250
On May 13 2013 06:39 DarthPunk wrote:
anyway gone for a bit. Hope to see bustling activity when I return.

Lol dismissing that specific thing by calling it meta is pretty funny. You assume I am a new or bad player instead of reading my profile which is kept up to date for my own convenience to refer to. You disregard my invitation to understand me better. You are not interested in figuring out my alignment because you either know or don't care. Scum or lazy town, either way I wish death upon you at our earliest convenience.

Bee Tee Dubz: The word you were looking for is 'policy'.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 12 2013 22:47 GMT
#254
VE am I gonna have a cheesecake moment on this wonderful mother's day because of that post?

Pie > cheesecake btw.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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