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JarJarDrinks
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JarJarDrinks
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On May 04 2013 11:27 calgar wrote: I'll start off by talking about a lurker lynch policy. I think it's beneficial to have a threat to lynch highly inactive players to try and force activity. In several past games lynching into the lurkers gave much better odds of hitting scum than the odds would be otherwise. Having said that, it's just a policy and obviously we should all pressure conversation, pursue reads, and lynch someone a better target if it comes about. I say Yes to a Lynch Lurker Policy. So far no one else has really said whether they're for or against the policy. Just some generic "Lurking is bad" posts. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
@VayneAuthority - On May 04 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote: Not Enough information to know whether we should policy lynch lurkers? The whole point of the policy vote is to get information. Saying that you want to see votes before you decide whether you want lynch lurkers sounds pretty bad. Like you're giving yourself an out in case your scum teammates starts to gather votes.Not enough information yet to know whether I want to lynch lurkers or not. I need at least a post from everyone first, as well as some votes to come in. then we'll see @jampidampi - On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote: Yes, rolled town again. Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. First of all, what's the point of telling us you rolled town? Now, to answer you about scum masking themselves w/ policy: the point of LaL is not to actually lynch the lurkers. It's to make it so there are no lurkers. We want everyone putting as much information and opinions out there. But the wierd thing about you saying that you're not sold on policy lynching lurkers is that you then vote a lurker. This is your next post: On May 04 2013 17:20 jampidampi wrote: Seems like you got sold on it pretty quickly.My votes on you to pile up the pressure. Many votes on one lurker makes all lurker fear for their life. Even better if the vote is on an scummer. The only way to make use of day one is to make scummers fear for their life. What makes VayneAuthority suspicious to you? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 04 2013 23:28 jampidampi wrote: I'm not saying that we wouldn't actually lynch the lurkers if they continued to lurk. I'm saying that getting everyone to post is what the actual goal of the LaL policy is. You say scum can mask themselves by not lurking. Well GOOD, that's what we want.LAL = Lynch All Lurkers. How is the point of LAL not lynching the lurkers? It doesn't matter how hard you state that you will lynch all lurkers, unless you actually lynch them all there will always be lurkers. Policy lynching aims to remove a certain type of behaviour or a certain type of action from the game. If you don't enforce the policy, it may as well not be. On May 04 2013 23:28 jampidampi wrote: Because in one post you basically say that we should leave lurkers alone and let the blue roles worry about them. And then you completely 180 and say that we should pressure the Lurkers. You make this post:And you failed to tell anyone how any of this would make me suspicious. How does anything you said point to me being scum? On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote: and then you go ahead and vote for a lurker and make this post:I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. On May 04 2013 17:20 jampidampi wrote: What happened to "leaving lurkers for our blues to handle"?My votes on you to pile up the pressure. Many votes on one lurker makes all lurker fear for their life. Even better if the vote is on an scummer. The only way to make use of day one is to make scummers fear for their life. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 05 2013 04:27 jampidampi wrote: Please explain what you mean by this because that's not what you said at all. You specifically said "scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker". How is that driving policy lynches?No, I'm saying scum can mask themselves by driving policy lynches. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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JarJarDrinks
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OK, so I'd like to defend myself but I haven't really seen any real reasons for voting me. Targe says that he's annoyed that I havent responded even though I specificly said I'd be gone much of the day. Hopefully people see how easily the votes piled on me after I said I'd be away. If I was scum, don't you think there'd be someone else accumulating votes to try and take the heat off of me? Anyway, I'm pretty convinced Targe is scum. Here's Targe's reasoning for voting me: On May 06 2013 03:14 Targe wrote: I'm suspecting jarjar because he hasn't expressed opinions of other people, he has only explained his opinions on general things such as lynch policy, seems like he is trying to avoid lurking whilst appearing to contribute. Please look @ my filter (I know, not that long yet) and tell me that I haven't expressed my opinion on people. Now look @ Targes filter and tell me 99% of his posts aren't filler. Gonna reread some more and try to figure out why people are voting for me but please feel free to ask me specific questions. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
Everyone that has just a single vote on someone is just wasting their vote right now. If I'm gonna be lynched then I'd like for the town to @ least get something out of it. Everyone should really consolidate votes so there's actually something to analyse tomorrow. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:17 jrkirby wrote: Yeah, I can tell that you're not scum. I want to know what other peoples opinions on nobodywonder is. My opinion on NW is that he's acted scummy in both of the other games I played in so I have a null read since he's acting similiar in this game. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:42 jrkirby wrote: Well wouldn't you rather lynch someone you have a null read on instead of someone you read as town? If you and calgar switch then it'll be 5 to 4. Then maybe one of the people voting for me will show up and can switch it around.I would say swing the vote, but jarjar already has 5 votes and there aren't 5 active guys here. And the next voted guy is targe, who I have a null read on. And yes I'm VT. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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JarJarDrinks
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On May 06 2013 10:37 calgar wrote: I'm also extremely hesitant because I think several other people are scummier than targe. Do you think I'm scummier then him though? That's really all that matters right now. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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JarJarDrinks
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Jampi, not so sure about him anymore because I don't know that him and Targe would both pile on me so close together. But one of them is scum for sure. Vayne is town. I don't think he's playing a particularly good game but he's not acting scummy @ all. I don't get why people are reading him as scum. jrkirby and Calgar. One of these guys is scum. There's always a scummy soft defending a townie before he gets lynched. I really hate Calgars scum reads so far but kirby changing to no lynch when there was a chance I could be saved (remember he said he read me as town) was pretty bad. If I had to guess I'd lean toward Calgar being the scummy, especially if I'm right about Targe. Good Luck town. | ||
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