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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 00:43 GMT
#349
OH NO HAPA GO BACK TO YOUR HYDRA
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:11 GMT
#369
The Capslock thing was Kush

I don't see how the stuff i wrote was "pointless and summarizing", my opinion is very clear in those posts. Summarizing means there's no interpretation in what you write, just recaps, but there's enough interpretation in my posts.

Your and yamato's arguments: Not good.
Your arguments against VE: Bad, not scummy.
Yamato's actions: Possibly scum motivated. But I'll wait for more and especially for the non-posters to post.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:12 GMT
#370
@hapa only one of those were me.. the all caps one lol. I'd prob think vivax was scum if I wasn't hydrad with him. I guess that is just his playstyle though.

I'm serious though you can't be on hapa that is a violation of the rules I think.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#374
You seem to like a lot of people, any shot at who you find scummy JM?
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#375
On April 13 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Well I beat you to Kush (pretty sure vivax hasn't posted yet). He felt very uninvolved in the conversation and posting out of obligation rather than anything.


Are you reading this game wtf.... obviously we have both talked and there are huge differences between how we talk.
-kush
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:26 GMT
#378
On April 13 2013 10:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 10:21 VIVAX420 wrote:
On April 13 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Well I beat you to Kush (pretty sure vivax hasn't posted yet). He felt very uninvolved in the conversation and posting out of obligation rather than anything.


Are you reading this game wtf.... obviously we have both talked and there are huge differences between how we talk.
-kush


Yeah I wasn't reading very carefully whilst responding to like 4 people at once. Anyway yes you're both on, however that does reveal how little you've posted thusfar.

All I see in your filter read-wise is calling VE a drama whore and soft-pushing suspicion on Yamato.




-Vivax
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:47 GMT
#385
Hapa I think you're seeing things.
Voluntarily or not, that's still to determine. All I see is VE saying that he's about to go away for a jokish reason, but then being there anyway.

How does that post imply that he wants to stop discussion? Is he asking you to stop talking with others?
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:51 GMT
#388
I don't like GK's absence after our pre-game exchange. He was a very active starter as town in The Game.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#391
I'll try to summarize (yes summarize) the situation:

Hapa picks VE to push.
Yamato picks Hapa to push.
Hapa used bad argument against VE.
Yamato uses that argument back against Hapa, but it wasn't the original reason for suspecting him (+ other stuff said about yam).
Hapa either defended his bad argument cause he's scared of giving in to yamato and looking scummy, or he believed truly into his argument and only realized it was bad when both him and yamato started to get out of their tunnels.

Either way, I think yamato's push might or might not have been genuine, but same goes for Hapa. What I dislike about Hapa is that he went over to attacking my play for reasons I dislike, but I might be biased here.

We should wait for everyone to post before falling into tunneling, we don't even know if scum posted yet.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:06 GMT
#394
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 11:04 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 10:55 FiveTouch wrote:
But I'm questioning you here, not the other way around. We'll change topics when I'm satisfied (being the point in the first place right?)

Now, Cheesecake's post is very obviously critical in tone and verbiage (blah blah policy blah, full retard, common sense, savvy?). That much is true. What I'm failing to understand is how you came to the conclusion that I must be pushing an agenda of stifling discussion by me calling the discussion "boring". Boring doesn't mean "useless" or "stupid" or "common sense" or anything dismissive at all. It means that reading it was making me bored. Why no hate at Palmar for fucking off to watch Watchmen? Why no hate for WoC for this?

On April 13 2013 08:23 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Also I'd just like to direct people's attention to a theme I'm seeing here:
FondleMyButtocks
ShotgunBiceps
FiveTouch
InsertSmurfHere

I knew there was a reason I got aroused when I started reading the thread.


I mean, he's in your accusation of me and everything, and here he is, drawing eyes off your case on me with this drivel. No hate for the Cheese?


Why no hate for CC? Because that post was made me giggle uncontrollably. His play so far also has a very different tone from his scum-games. His light-heartedness seems to indicate town.

As for Palmar, that's kinda what he does. I didn't go after him for it for three reasons:
1) It's non-alignment indicative of Palmar
2) Palmar's alignment is usually fairly obvious on Day 1 based on his interest level.
3) I got caught up in 4 conversations at the time.

Also keep in mind that the posts of CC and Palmar are not negative or detracting of discussion. They're just troll-posts. You're making the case that yours was as well, but we've gone over that already.

Show nested quote +
Only hate for VE. It stinks of pushing an agenda. This is my problem.


What's bad about going after one player? Tunneling is the nature of the business.

I'd like to think I've made why I went after your post as opposed to others pretty clear just now.




VE going watch the grass grow isn't detracting of discussion or not-trolly either. Is watching the grass grow a legit hobby where you come from?
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:16 GMT
#402
You give me the same impression of yamato neglecting his defense of VE, scared of admitting mistakes.

You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:18 GMT
#403
And yamato's "mistake" I mean would have been: Defending VE at that early point back then when he couldn't be sure of his alignment yet.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:22 GMT
#407
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 11:19 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 11:16 VIVAX420 wrote:
You give me the same impression of yamato neglecting his defense of VE, scared of admitting mistakes.

You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie.


Who me?

I think I've been pretty clear that I made a mistake
*shrug*

As far as "trying so hard to justify myself" - that's in the nature of defending one's self. VE's asking, and therefore I try and justify it. I wouldn't bother with any of this if people weren't suspicious of me for it.


Your first interest, if you're town, should be finding scummy stuff, not trying hard to keep a good image.
I don't want you to not defend yourself, but all I've seen from you so far is that VE stuff, your defense, and some quick-to-damn shit-shoveling at my posts, and yet you don't appear interested in finding out my motives.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:26 GMT
#409
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 11:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 11:22 VIVAX420 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 11:19 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 11:16 VIVAX420 wrote:
You give me the same impression of yamato neglecting his defense of VE, scared of admitting mistakes.

You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie.


Who me?

I think I've been pretty clear that I made a mistake
*shrug*

As far as "trying so hard to justify myself" - that's in the nature of defending one's self. VE's asking, and therefore I try and justify it. I wouldn't bother with any of this if people weren't suspicious of me for it.


Your first interest, if you're town, should be finding scummy stuff, not trying hard to keep a good image.
I don't want you to not defend yourself, but all I've seen from you so far is that VE stuff, your defense, and some quick-to-damn shit-shoveling at my posts, and yet you don't appear interested in finding out my motives.


Well ever since your "middle-finger" post, I've lost interest in you.

And let's be real - I've done more than any person in this game, so don't give me the whole "all I've seen from you" thing.


You deserved that middle finger. First you called my posts summarizing, then I argued why they weren't, then you ignored it and put something else on top. I know when I'm arguing against people who don't want to listen, for whatever reason.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:35 GMT
#488
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 19:30 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 10:12 VIVAX420 wrote:
@hapa only one of those were me.. the all caps one lol. I'd prob think vivax was scum if I wasn't hydrad with him. I guess that is just his playstyle though.

I'm serious though you can't be on hapa that is a violation of the rules I think.

This feels a bit off. Why do you say that? It doesn't seem to indicate a mindset of a town hydra. When you know someone's alignment this kind of thought isn't very likely to cross your mind, unless it's a more defensive response, indicative of guilt. What about vivax's posts did you find suspicious, even knowing his alignment?


Don't worry, I'm already taking care of that in the hydra qt+ Show Spoiler +
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:41 GMT
#491
I agree with having everyone nuke themselves.
Kind of exploiting game mechanics but it is a very pro town idea.

JM is confirmed town like 95%. It worries me that VE can't see this and even wants to vote him for it. I've never seen a scum VE before but I am very worried about that hydra.

So I wan't to lynch into these guys
Fivetouch (maybe)

MockArmor (Goodkarma/Mocsta)
Came in the thread, not talking about any of the important stuff. Happy to remain behind the scenes.

FondleMyButtocks (Promethelax/phagga)
joking then lurking

Raynmaster (Oatsmaster/Raynpelikoneet)
no content so far

WaveofCheesecake (WaveOfShadow + Mr.Cheesecake)
joking then lurking pretty heavily. He has tried to contribute since then but nothing he has said inspires a town read.

NeutralSrvivngBalrog (Drazerk/Strongandbig)
total lurker

-kush
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:46 GMT
#493
I think MA and FT look townie actually. Yamato seems to have gotten more reasonable which is a town tell, that leaves Hapa for me as scummy candidate.

Review of WoC, NSB and FMB pending. Waiting for Oats + Rayn to post, Oats is kinda active as town, I think.

##Unvote


-Vivax
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:50 GMT
#497
I disagreed with kush on the mod thing confirming JM as town initially. But I've also thought a little about it and came to the conclusion that a host wouldn't show so obviously that it was a fakeclaim, if the launcher was mafia.
It's very hypothetical but I can also see where he comes from with that explanation.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:53 GMT
#500
I've only read GK so far I think. Mocsta posted from main acc, retracting my gut-town-read until I read properly, actually.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 12:34 GMT
#510
He won't commit because he's scum


Interesting, do you think I'm not committed? If I suddenly called yamato town at that point, or Raynmaster, do you think that you wouldn't remind me of what I said earlier about them? I am committed with all judgements I gave out, I'm just not sitting in a tunnel against someone, which is what you're accusing me of not doing.
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