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Oatsmaster
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On April 07 2013 20:59 DarthPunk wrote: LoL so you don't look scummy as scum is your argument essentially? Wow that makes me feel heaps better dude. LOL. Do you read ANY OF MARVS SCUM GAMES? He survived to endgame in hero He had to get vigged in Themed for him to die, just before endgame. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 07 2013 21:03 DarthPunk wrote: I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game. Then what do you want to do if you dont feel like talking to anyone? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 07 2013 22:00 marvellosity wrote: Pretty likely to be town Thoughts about his reads? He said I am his only scumspect. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 07 2013 22:02 marvellosity wrote: That's not what he said at all. then what did he say? Hmm? I thought he backed off out of everything and now is gonna be like Red Team. Which is slightly disappointing  | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 07 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote: Besides, Oats, i think Palmar will come in to the thread and work with it today. That's my hunch anyways. Maybe. Maybe not. I hope so. My back is perfectly fine, i dont have a hunch though. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Marv with no suspicions makes unhappy Oats. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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##Unvote ##Vote: Ace (totally trying to get ANYONE lynched DP. and totally sheeping. DEAL WITH IT) Reasoning coming up shortly, STAY TUNED FOLKS. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 08 2013 00:32 AxleGreaser wrote: ##Vote WaveOfShadow Wave I have asked you questions here, about what happened when you got to L-1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18221663 Please have look at them. Why is WoS scummier now, rather than yesterday? Something mustve made you vote him right? What is IT? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 08 2013 00:43 Palmar wrote: Oats what do you make of DPs and Marv's argument. One scum? No scum? marv totes town. DP im not sure, I like this engagement with marv(totally sheeping marv, not.), but I dont like the rest of his play. Although I could imagine a scum player doing this thing with marv. (WISHYWASHY) Let me read it again and get back to you. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Issues with DP DP says that he is gonna disregard meta in dealing with marv's alignment Then he posts this post. + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 23:20 DarthPunk wrote: For the rest of the thread regarding marvellosity. OK so usually by this stage of the game marv has made his townieness abundantly clear to me. He has usually made some cases that I have empathised with and that have appealed to me. I usually like sheeping marv. This game he has sheeped a piece of shit case on sciberbia without really contributing anything and when questioned on why directed people to the fat load of nothing in his filter. Also he has been more arrogant than usual and quicker to call me bad/dumb even than in past games with him especially when I am doing what I consider useful things for town. All this means I don't have the comfortable town read on marv that I usually posess. I don't think his reasoning behind making poor/unexplained votes cuts it as an excuse. And I don't feel like that is an unreasonable position. What I will say is I do like the way he has interacted with me during the past page and his genuine need to convince me rather than flame me into the ground is somewhat of a comfort albeit a small one. For the moment I feel marv is scummy. But I have been convinced marv is scum before (when marv was playing badly) and he was not. I feel like he could just be playing badly again. I am not infallible and I am not unrealistic. I don't think the correct play is to lynch a questionable marv day one. He has an 8 page filter and is potentially to valuable to mislynch (as is sciberbia IMO) Therefore while I encourage everyone to this game continue to eye marv with blazing scepticism I don't feel it is the correct play to lynch him today. I would additionally like some third party observations of the interplay between marv and myself so that I can potentially gain some new perspective (not from the sheep marv brigade though thnks) Alright. Please don't hammer anyone. ##unvote Night all! yeah so taking out a few quotes OK so usually by this stage of the game marv has made his townieness abundantly clear to me. He has usually made some cases that I have empathised with and that have appealed to me. I usually like sheeping marv. This game he has sheeped a piece of shit case on sciberbia without really contributing anything and when questioned on why directed people to the fat load of nothing in his filter. DP hasnt played with marv in Marv's last few games. He doesnt take that into account here. I dont like it. Also he is using meta here. He said he wasnt going to use it earlier. Right. Also he has been more arrogant than usual and quicker to call me bad/dumb even than in past games with him especially when I am doing what I consider useful things for town. Meta again, and some really subjective things here that could depend on the attitude of Marv/DP and not his alignment. What is 'More arrogant that usual?' 'Quicker to call me bad/dumb' Just about the most subjective things ever. Its ok though. GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD RIGHT HERE For the moment I feel marv is scummy. But I have been convinced marv is scum before (when marv was playing badly) and he was not. I feel like he could just be playing badly again. I am not infallible and I am not unrealistic. I don't think the correct play is to lynch a questionable marv day one. He has an 8 page filter and is potentially to valuable to mislynch (as is sciberbia IMO) Yeah. I liked that he was willing to talk it out, now I dont like the content of his 'talking it out' | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Like you didnt tell me why palmar in Red Team. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 08 2013 00:56 AxleGreaser wrote: based on previous posting I am hoping he can be in the thread soon. The questions are a ways back in the thread now. I have arranged my sleep to allow me some overlap. I do want to be sure he sees the questions and realises they are current. This post ensures he knows I will be around. This doesnt answer the question. Why did you not vote him before you went off(to sleep I imagine) Why did you vote for him now? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 08 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote: his willingness to actively engage with people Did he do this in the scum game he played recently? YANM? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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2) despite his good posts, there's a certain level of disconnection, or a lack of investment and emotional involvement, with town Yes I think prome told me this postgame. What do you mean by disconnection? Like what characterizes it rather than connection? It seems to me somewhat subjective and nebulous | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 08 2013 01:33 WaveofShadow wrote: You don't seem to believe my first post is a claim. 'claiming town' is hardly a claim. Marv: right, so its a gut thing. hmm. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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What I got from the Ace thing, was that he was asking you to claim your role rather than alignment when you got to L-1. Thats what I think when someone asks me to claim. So it confused me earlier. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 08 2013 01:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm curious as to what makes a town claim scummy exactly. Its not alignment indicative. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Why does Ace attacking Marv mean that Ace isnt scum? You know that Ace is gosu scum player right? Especially since you have a townread on marv. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On April 08 2013 02:41 Ace wrote: I've got you in Priority 1 right now. I don't know if you're just lazy or still fucking around like this isn't the time to get serious but a "lynch reyn" post is amongst a few others where you just show up and don't even comment on the current situation and say something useless. The only reason you won't get lynched, as you and I both know very well, is that these players hesitate to lynch "vets" and quickly throw town their town reads out leading to stagnation. Ace, why is your play serious? | ||
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