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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#806
Oh. And oats I have no opinion on tunkeg so far because he has been such a non impact player. Perhaps that is telling in itself. We shall see.

I would probably lump him in the same category as Axle and rayn.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 09:27 GMT
#808
On April 07 2013 18:19 Palmar wrote:
I'm probably overthinking this but I may be coming around to the idea that sci isn't scum.

I hate these long days, my gut is far better at mafia than my brain.

Why did you vote for marv? Are you going to follow that up at all?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 10:08 GMT
#815
On April 07 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
WoS,

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 05:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 07 2013 05:11 Ace wrote:
I've been busy WoS. I actually don't think you should be lynched at the moment, as I think Oats is a far bigger distraction. Marv is just talking nonsense as always.

WoS since you're at L-2 right now don't hesitate to claim when the next person votes.I'm not gonna hammer you unless that situation resolves itself. For now tho:

##vote: Oatsmaster

Claim what? I already did.


Where? Im confused/curious too.
(yeah im slow/not going in a straight line blablabla
yeah im blue hunting blablabla)


He claimed town at the start of the game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 10:23 GMT
#817
On April 07 2013 19:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
So it was a joke.

Right.

Why do people make such bad jokes that dont make sense? WHY?


He said it wasn't a joke.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 10:33 GMT
#819
On April 07 2013 19:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 19:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On April 07 2013 19:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
So it was a joke.

Right.

Why do people make such bad jokes that dont make sense? WHY?


He said it wasn't a joke.


So he thought that Ace was asking for his alignment?

Wait WHAT?


No he said his claim at the start of the game was not a joke.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 11:59 GMT
#826
LoL so you don't look scummy as scum is your argument essentially? Wow that makes me feel heaps better dude. LOL.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 12:03 GMT
#828
On April 07 2013 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
Wow, you take a tiny bit of my post and ignore the rest? LOL YOU ARE SO AWESOME.


That was the major point defending yourself. The rest was justification of your questionable actions. Essentially the argument against the scummiest things against you (no reasons for votes, no original case, rephrasing palmar etc) is that you wouldn't do that as scum.

I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 12:08 GMT
#832
On April 07 2013 21:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:

I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game.


Then what do you want to do if you dont feel like talking to anyone?


Go to bed?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 12:12 GMT
#834
On April 07 2013 21:08 marvellosity wrote:
Off you toddle then.


Sure thing scummer! or I will stick around. My decision after all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 12:13 GMT
#835
On April 07 2013 21:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:

I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game.


Then what do you want to do if you dont feel like talking to anyone?


Also I was talking to you and tunkeg before.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 12:16 GMT
#838
On April 07 2013 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
Think in your head why I've responded to sciberbia on this and not you. Because you're totally irrational and incapable of reading, whereas sciberbia is not.

The very fact that you broke my post down to the response you gave basically shows you're incapable of critical thought.


No I just know that you can rationalise anything and make it seem reasonable. Disagreeing with you does not make me an idiot despite you trying to create that myth.

I am quite content in my ability to think critically thanks.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 12:21 GMT
#840
On April 07 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:
I see. You're going to confirmation bias this read to the end of time. Glad to hear it mate.


And you are going to try and discredit your detractors until the end of time. I understand. That is playing to your win condition. Too bad you are scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 12:48 GMT
#843
On April 07 2013 21:26 marvellosity wrote:
How is that discrediting? It's blatantly true.

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 21:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On April 07 2013 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
Think in your head why I've responded to sciberbia on this and not you. Because you're totally irrational and incapable of reading, whereas sciberbia is not.

The very fact that you broke my post down to the response you gave basically shows you're incapable of critical thought.


No I just know that you can rationalise anything and make it seem reasonable. Disagreeing with you does not make me an idiot despite you trying to create that myth.

I am quite content in my ability to think critically thanks.


What this says is that there's no way you won't see me as scum, because any bad explanation i give is scummy, but any good explanation I give isn't townie, because I'm capable of giving it as scum. Ergo, even if I explain my thought process in an open way, it's impossible for you to read town from it because I'm capable of doing so as scum, apparently.

You also belittle my self-meta analysis, fine, self-meta analysis is in itself kinda useless. But you've played many games with me and you should know that what I talked about IS true. Or you can go and check for yourself what I'm referencing, that it's true. You can go look at the GSL game you like to reference and see if I made any "shit" votes there.

Actually you're reasonably intimate with how I play, we've played, what, a good 8 games together? Why would you disregard my past games?

All this is precisely the definition of confirmation bias.


Let me make this clear. To the part of the case I really was interested in, you responded that you wouldn't do scummy stuff like that as scum. The other parts seemed reasonable, and were also responses to the parts of the case that were weakest and thus that I cared about the least. But the part that gives me the biggest scum read on you is the part on which you gave an entirely unsatisfactory answer.

I don't do scummy stuff like make ridiculous votes with no reasoning behind it as scum is not satisfactory answer. In fact it is the kind of answer I often give AS SCUM.

The scummiest thing against you was answered unsatisfactorily, ergo: I still find you scummy.

I do know your meta, but I am bad at reading you with it and using it in general. So I am choosing to ignore meta and focus on events IN THIS GAME. And IN THIS GAME you have made questionable reads and actively refused to give reasons. IN THIS GAME the excuse that it's not scummy because you wouldn't do something so scummy as scum is not an acceptable argument.

Furthermore. I read people better by reading their contributions to scum hunting rather than their defense posts so it is fallacious to say that I will never find you townie because i am sceptical of your defense posts. I am sceptical of every defense post due to their very nature.
As your scumhunting barely exists aside from association cases before the flip and a sheep of palmar I cannot use that to form a town read on you.

What I am wondering is why on earth you are stating I am stupid over stating I am scummy. Why you are calling this confirmation bias rather than scum trying to mislynch you. Perhaps you KNOW I am town?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 13:14 GMT
#850
Marv am I more likely scum or town?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 13:36 GMT
#855
On April 07 2013 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv am I more likely scum or town?


Why don't you just answer my last post properly instead, we're in civil mode now.


Why don't you make a small commitment to a read on me?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 13:45 GMT
#858
On April 07 2013 22:40 marvellosity wrote:
Why don't you just answer my post?


You've got my answers my opinion hasn't changed and i don't like to repeat myself.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 13:55 GMT
#860
On April 07 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:
Do you at least understand the perspective I've put forth in the post you won't reply to? Do you understand my grievances?


yes. I understand your perspective.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 13:56 GMT
#861
in that I understand it. I don't necessarily agree with it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 13:59 GMT
#863
anyway going to sleep. Talk to you all tomorrow.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 07 2013 14:02 GMT
#864
On April 07 2013 22:58 marvellosity wrote:
Alright. I'll tell you where I am. Before this conversation there were 3 options.

1. DP is reasonable town in his suspicions of me
2. DP is unreasonable town in his suspicions of me
3. DP is mafia

Where this last page has got me is this far.

1. DP is reasonable town in his suspicions of me
2. DP is unreasonable town in his suspicions of me
3. DP is mafia

I'd quite like to hear what iamp makes of it, he's usually pretty good at picking out these things.


I'm unreasonable because I don't agree with you? Righto buddy.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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