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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 01:16 GMT
#746
##vote marvellosity

I think DP's posts have merit and highlight suspicions I already have of marv.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 01:18 GMT
#749
@prp what don't you understand? I think my thought process this game is easy to follow but I'll clear anything up you have questions about.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 01:20 GMT
#751
On April 07 2013 10:17 prplhz wrote:
i don't see the part where WoS acted in some way that he wouldn't get lynched, he wrote a few small posts and then he just left the thread. that's not really fighting for your life or anything that i think most people usually do. it seems much more collected.


I don't want to misunderstand here. Are you surprised that WoS didn't get lynched?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:09 GMT
#914
Well as an aside iamp, as Scum I'd go after anyone No fear over here!

As for the WoS situation, I think he is new or just doesn't understand what claiming before hammer means. When I asked WoS to claim I was asking for a roleclaim. He didn't. When he said "I already did" he was referring to his original post where he said he's Town - which means absolutely nothing. I'm just putting this down as a newbie mistake/misunderstanding for now as it's highly possible a Town player that doesn't play with good InstantMajority lnynch players could be confused as to what I was asking.

Now that being said, the entire exchange where I didn't vote for WoS yet was because I was waiting for him to come back and show me where he roleclaimed (assuming he understood what I meant). Clearly he didn't, and I was sure he didn't - when he came back and couldn't prove it, or just dodged it then it would have been a pretty easy case of someone lying about a claim which is more likely to be from Scum than town.

marvellosity is still the right lynch for today as his antagonistic behavior is still going on, and for some odd reason thinks I've been doing nothing all game when my posts come off well reasoned and logical. I'm going to re-read his recent posts with DP to see if it sways my judgment but from a quick skim it didn't.

All the votes are once again split up - can we just have 2 or 3 main suspects and no new wagons formed? If we keep splitting the votes up it will be difficult to analyze anyone post flip if we even get there at this point.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:13 GMT
#916
On April 08 2013 02:06 iamperfection wrote:
I am an expert on marv so this stuff im about to say carries a lot of weight. I have been wrong about marv once and that was an extremely long time ago in my 1st non newbie game. So i know what im talking about

Early on marv was being somwhat passive but he has picked it up greatly since. He has pured his thoughts into the thread and you can see thoughts develop and change.

Now i don't put a lot of stock in scum slips but i do put stock in town slips. The following sequence i believe shows that marv is actively thinking about the game and is therefore town


Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 22:49 marvellosity wrote:
Sorry Palmar, I like WoS less. I just browsed his filter in The Game and LX to try to disprove my mafia-read on him here, and I couldn't.

##Unvote
##Vote: WaveofShadow

in between these two posts almost nothing is posted in the thread


Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 20:49 marvellosity wrote:
Alright Palmar. We can do it your way. For now.

##Vote: sciberbia


So whats going on here? It appears to me that marv went back and changed his mind to sheep palmar just by reading filters. He would have no incentive to do this as scum and when you combine this with his overall activity and contributions it points to a town marv.


I would do that as Scum. If you find a "better" lynch by sheeping another player in the event they get lynched blame can miss you. You can find Town players making bad posts all the time and get them lynched for it. I really think the fact that he was voting for sciberbia is a pretty bad sign as there was no solid case on him at the time. If he sheeped Palmar after "reading a few filters" then I don't think he was doing any actual reading or he just has terrible reading comprehension. If anyone can show me some good context of sciberbia's filter leading to a scum motivation I'm all for it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:14 GMT
#917
On April 08 2013 02:12 iamperfection wrote:
marv is not getting lynched ace


why not?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:18 GMT
#920
On April 08 2013 02:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 02:14 Ace wrote:
On April 08 2013 02:12 iamperfection wrote:
marv is not getting lynched ace


why not?

mainly due to the fact you wont get enough votes


because? what's up with the defeated attitude? is the day over in 1 hour or something? come on, play with a "lets move this game forward" mentality.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:20 GMT
#922
who in the world told you that dumb lie?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:21 GMT
#924
whats the case on prp?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:24 GMT
#930
On April 08 2013 02:22 Palmar wrote:
Let's just lynch reyn for being a dick


I don't know how close you are to being shot by a vigilante if one exists in this setup, but you're definetly pushing it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:41 GMT
#935
I've got you in Priority 1 right now. I don't know if you're just lazy or still fucking around like this isn't the time to get serious but a "lynch reyn" post is amongst a few others where you just show up and don't even comment on the current situation and say something useless. The only reason you won't get lynched, as you and I both know very well, is that these players hesitate to lynch "vets" and quickly throw town their town reads out leading to stagnation.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#937
On April 08 2013 02:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 02:09 Ace wrote:
Well as an aside iamp, as Scum I'd go after anyone No fear over here!

As for the WoS situation, I think he is new or just doesn't understand what claiming before hammer means. When I asked WoS to claim I was asking for a roleclaim. He didn't. When he said "I already did" he was referring to his original post where he said he's Town - which means absolutely nothing. I'm just putting this down as a newbie mistake/misunderstanding for now as it's highly possible a Town player that doesn't play with good InstantMajority lnynch players could be confused as to what I was asking.

Now that being said, the entire exchange where I didn't vote for WoS yet was because I was waiting for him to come back and show me where he roleclaimed (assuming he understood what I meant). Clearly he didn't, and I was sure he didn't - when he came back and couldn't prove it, or just dodged it then it would have been a pretty easy case of someone lying about a claim which is more likely to be from Scum than town.

marvellosity is still the right lynch for today as his antagonistic behavior is still going on, and for some odd reason thinks I've been doing nothing all game when my posts come off well reasoned and logical. I'm going to re-read his recent posts with DP to see if it sways my judgment but from a quick skim it didn't.

All the votes are once again split up - can we just have 2 or 3 main suspects and no new wagons formed? If we keep splitting the votes up it will be difficult to analyze anyone post flip if we even get there at this point.

Yeah, no.
I wasn't confused. No (blue) role to claim means I claimed already.
I'm not lynching marv today.


just claim VT in that instance in the future and make it explicit.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:48 GMT
#940
you've seen me joking around? Haven't I pushed my reads clearly? Is there something missing in my posts?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 17:54 GMT
#946
On April 08 2013 02:50 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 09:11 Ace wrote:
I don't know, maybe I'm not good at explaining my thoughts here. I completely understand he made no claim. He said he did. Which is why I asked right after for him to point it out to me. Does this part make sense?

can you please explain why this is in any way interesting


I posted this yesterday to explain my requested roleclaim of WoS. I don't see what's uninteresting about this, or why you just pulled this one post out of no where. Where are you going with this?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 18:00 GMT
#949
I only see one of those posts as joking around. Guess we do have different definitions of seriousness.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 18:17 GMT
#954
I didn't vote WoS yet only because I was waiting on him to come in and explain himself after the "where is the claim I can't find it?" post. I don't know if you read my last response with WoS but it's all cleared up on that end. WoS didn't understand what I was asking and I didn't understand what he meant by stating he already claimed.

The marv part was me seeing marv following the same thought process I was and not seeing the potential WoS lie. Unlike WoS who I had a misunderstanding with, marv says WoS didn't claim. If he didn't claim, but he stated he did claim then there is a lie there. Marv somehow missed that. Since marv claims to be a good player I don't see how he could have missed that. Does this make sense now? and yes the shhhh post was me hoping iamp didn't spoil a potential trap

But we've already moved past the claim thing. The issue is resolved.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#1060
just skimmed and see I'm on the lynch wagon. 2 things quickly:

@WoS - in The Game I got lynched 6 hours before deadline when I was asleep

Also I was watching basketball so no time to read the thread.

For the people voting for me, can you point out exactly what I need to respond to to convince you of my innocence? I'm not 100% sure what's going on here since I thought I made everything I did explicitly clear but I'll try again.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 22:48 GMT
#1095
On April 08 2013 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 07:22 Ace wrote:
just skimmed and see I'm on the lynch wagon. 2 things quickly:

@WoS - in The Game I got lynched 6 hours before deadline when I was asleep

Also I was watching basketball so no time to read the thread.

For the people voting for me, can you point out exactly what I need to respond to to convince you of my innocence? I'm not 100% sure what's going on here since I thought I made everything I did explicitly clear but I'll try again.


Just give me some good reasons why I'm mafia, I'd like that much more.


I think you're not actually here to look for Scum. Your posts reek of someone just happy to live through the day and fling shit. The blatant sheeping of Palmar who I've already said has been happy to fling shit too was just another point in that direction. In addition to the post earlier from DP, I also think you are just calling people out just to appear active.
You keep claiming you're good at this game but I don't get the sense that you are actively trying to solve anything going on.

On April 08 2013 07:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright Ace, can you address my post?
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm curious about a few things, Ace.
First of all, before you showed up I was already at L-1 and having tried to give town something to use upon my death, someone unvoted me. Marv, I believe. It only got better after that point, not worse and what saved my life were the posts I made before you showed up. Therefore, no need to 'blueclaim' to save my life since it was already saved, yet you show up after and tell me I shouldn't hesitate to claim my role, since you didn't believe I already did. Why try to get a claim out of me?

Second, I am unsure as to what 'trap' exactly you were trying to set. Why would I explicitly lie about a claim like that? I am aware it turned out to be a misunderstanding, but do you think that as scum I would expect to just lie and get out of being under suspicion magically somehow?

The fact that prplhz sees all the same things I do pretty clearly makes me suspect his scumminess if his thoughts are coming from the same place as mine, which troubles me. Prplhz, can I get something else resembling town-assisting attitude from you? If you're actually town and not scum (which is still hard for me to believe given your activity and vote choices/timing) please contribute positively.



I didn't think you were saved at L-2 (which is a big reason why I didn't vote). If you were going to get lynched I'd rather you claim before the hammer and have the Town debate on that and see if it's worth keeping you alive. It's normal play in majority lynch and I'm sorry if I assumed most people around would behave like that. But once again it makes no sense for me to stick a vote on you in that situation as anyone could end the day with a hammer right after. I thought I made it clear but even though I was leaning in the direction of you being Scum I wanted a bit more information and that is how the entire "where did you claim?" thing happened.


The trap was just seeing if you said "I claimed" and then when I asked, ignored it or just made up a bunch of bs where you didn't really claim but implied it. Like I already said you had no idea I was referring to a roleclaim, and I had no clue you were referring to your post early in the game. As to the bolded - yes. Scum do it all the time because they don't think Townies are reading the thread

On April 08 2013 07:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 07:22 Ace wrote:
just skimmed and see I'm on the lynch wagon. 2 things quickly:

@WoS - in The Game I got lynched 6 hours before deadline when I was asleep

Also I was watching basketball so no time to read the thread.

For the people voting for me, can you point out exactly what I need to respond to to convince you of my innocence? I'm not 100% sure what's going on here since I thought I made everything I did explicitly clear but I'll try again.

Can you point out who do you want to lynch and why?
If it's still Oats can you point out why "being a distraction" is good enough reason to lynch someone? Why not lynch mafia instead?
Why did you say sciberbia was a really bad lynch at the time he was getting votes and right after you say "he is 3rd lynch condidate today"?


I'd down for lynching marv and increasingly getting interested in a Palmar lynch. I've addressed marv up above, and Palmar has accusations all over the place. Literally just looking for an excuse to start a wagon on a whim. I don't think he's taking the game seriously. The way this day has gone, there have been several wagons all over the place with only one being serious enough to result in a lynch (WoS). Looking at the atmosphere of the thread I'd expect a player of Palmar's caliber to try and consolidate wagons and move the game forward - not start new ones.

To the bolded, I was talking about marv being the 3rd lynch candidate today while saying sciberbia is a bad lynch.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 22:59 GMT
#1107
On April 08 2013 07:49 marvellosity wrote:
Where do I keep claiming I'm good at this game?

I said I'm wrong less than DP and that's about all I can remember.

Can you provide examples please, Ace?

you're right marv, that's just me being silly and seeing something that isn't there. My bad.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2013 23:01 GMT
#1108
On April 08 2013 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ace:
Do you think it's possible both marv and Palmar are scum?


of course. I don't see why not.

@DP: Is the case on Axle boiling down to we need to lynch anybody, and he isn't here? That's the vibe I'm getting from skimming.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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