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On April 10 2013 09:24 nobodywonder wrote: what leads fishgle, who are you thinking scum? im mad at you. god, these are the sins of being a lurker day 1... oh why didn't i post then... well, obviously jarjar, for appearing suddenly with accusations towards jrkirby. We should probably follow through and lynch jarjar, i think. then there's matching votes. Like Warent said, there is most likely scum voting for the lynch. So if we can look at who voted for both jampi and jrkirby, we might get some info. i'll read through and try to get some more info. also, my comment on obzy may have been a bit brash. I'm probably being overly paranoid. I was looking at all the day1 lynchers, and of obzy moloch and smancer, i couldn't really point out any scum. And i guess i'm still afraid that obzy is still leading me into terrible votes. All game he's been stating "i think you're a townie, fish" etc, like he's purposefully buttering me up. I'll explain my 'obzy might be scum' a little more in depth if you'd like, but for now i'll drop it, though. it was a rather silly statement. | ||
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obzy, yesterday i was going to tell you that night is a bad time to claim doctor (i had a long post written out explaining why it was bad xD), but i didn't want to sound like an ass. I agree, i don't think there's any way that they're going to let you live now. I think warent is trying to mislead us all by telling us to vote for one of the 4 guys who did the mislynch day 1. I think that day1 all of us that voted for a mislynch (me, obsy, moloch, smancer) are town. We just voted badly, mafia didn't even need to associate itself with the kill, and is now trying to push a lynch on us. So with this in mind, and looking at the votes: The saraf kill makes more logical sense. Scum was trying to set us up for a jarjar kill day 2. [jarjar's votes were (3) Saraf jrkirby, jampidampi] But then jarjar finally stopped lurking and made a giant post against jrkirby. Look how quickly nobodywonder jumped out of the woodwork to join in on that lynch. Mafia thought that we would still be going after jarjar if jrkirby got mislynched (which we aren't, too much, even though we should be) and allowed jrkirby to die. So... possibly Warent + nobodywonder + rainbows/raven scumteam? It sounds kind of sketchy but with how well we have been killing ourselves off this game it might be possible that mafia has been mostly uninvolved directly with the kills. Does that make any sense? | ||
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Anyway, I'm glad we're veering away from a no-lynch. Either way we do it, we can't afford to get a single lynch wrong from now on, so the only thing that happens after the nightkill is that rainbows will (probably) die, and then what? The only info we'd gain from that is that mafia thinks it's a good idea to kill a blue. Fuck, we already know that. so... yea. A no-lynch is bad. For me, the scum team is probably NW, TRN, and warent, as i stated before, i think. I'm just hoping that rainbows isn't pulling a fake claim. Warent makes the same terrible defense that rainbows was trying to pull earlier, in "Who are my scum buddies?" Which once again doesn't prove you innocent. All it shows is that the mafia is smart enough to not directly associate itself with other mafia inside the thread. I think smancer's post about jarjar and nobodywonder being eerily similar, with the same votes. But since i doubt mafia would be dumb enough to associate that closely, i think only one of them is scum. Rainbows made a good point about Warent defending TRN, and TRN defending NW, which puts more evidence on that case. I'm a bit wary of everyone being so eager to lynch warent though. Nobodywonder and jarjar jumping in and voting nonchalantly like that, it might be a sign that warent is actually town? And sorry rainbows. I don't think i'll be putting down a vote yet. It's just not my style.  to appease you though FoS: Nobodywonder | ||
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it seems i've been focusing on only half the players this whole game, sorry about that. I sorta just follow the big picture and keep a lot of things to myself, unless i feel they're important. I think you and jarjar look somewhat equally scummy, for similar reasons. I already outlined your part. But as for jarjar, him coming in and creating a large post against jrkirby is extremely suspicious. The reason i'm not voting for him is it feels like a set up by the mafia. The first 3 town to die were the 3 that voted for jarjar. Other than that, it's hard to say much about him. He seems to be speaking logically but there's still not enough in his filter to decide how I feel about him. And right now is a rather shaky time to be voting out lurkers. Smancer, i've been reading town most of the game. If I were to make a case against him i'd probably point out how he pushed for the lynches, which all turned out bad. But i can't really state that straightfaced, seeing as i've been mostly agreeing with him the whole game, and also voted for the mislynches. argument for him: He's stated some good, focused points, and pushed for more info, which i consider townie behavior. And he's decently active, which is another positive trait. Not only that, but he seems to be the only other person wary of a mislynch right now. If we get this wrong, we lose, and he understands that. so ya. No suspicion on him, atm. Moloch is rather interesting. I feel like most of the game he's been playing similarly to me. This quote of his i liked It kind of feels like I've wasted time wrecking other people's arguments rather than building my own. It shows that he's got a good level of skepticism and isn't letting himself be mislead too easily. I don't know what to make of all his statistical analysis of no-lynch vs yes-lynch, but even he seems to be unsure of his own stance on that. Probably town? tbh, i don't like saying "this guys town" or "this guy's scum" unless i'm rather sure of it. It's also why I don't vote early either. There's still the possibility that rainbows is fake claiming (our cop died day 1, so no one ever checked), it's possible that smancer is just really good at looking like a townie while leading all the mislynches, etc etc. can anyone bring up a good argument for either moloch or smancer being scum? There's been a couple posts about them, but mostly they've been unperturbed. I'm assuming that it's because in general most people agree with me that they're townies? | ||
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Warent your whole case is ridiculous. You, TRN, and NW are scum. You've been defending them the whole game, TRN has unsuccessfully tried to get the Vigilante lynched (but you havent worried too much because you have a roleblocker anyway). You're trying to get either rainbows or jarjar lynched. I've already pointed out how obvious it is that mafia set-up JarJar to be killed. And Rainbows is the vigilante, ffs. ##Vote: Warent On April 13 2013 00:26 Rainbows wrote: If the 3 scum are all between JJD / Smancer / NW / Moloch, well played. I'm scared of this, myself xD | ||
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Your defense of Smancer is "Smancer defended me, so he can't be scum". "TRN is not scum otherwise he would have voted for me" - it seems to me scum has been getting mis-lynches off the whole game with little direct effort. Why would he jump in now, since you already have enough votes anyway. Plus, he's your scum buddy, so... I've already told you why I'm not voting for jarjar, even if he does look scummy. It looks like a set-up. As for nobodywonder, sorry you're right, you haven't ever directly defended him. But he's as likely to be scum as jarjar is. Just as you are questioning why I'm choosing NW over jarjar, i'm curious as to why you do the opposite. I think warent is scum, guys. But if you guys insist, i'll vote for a no-lynch. It's a stupid idea, tho. The only way we'll have chance of winning this is if we kill off their roleblocker so that rainbows can get his nightkill off. | ||
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JarJarDrinks (3) Saraf, jrkirby, jampidampi - first 3 to die | ||
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On April 13 2013 08:41 Warent wrote: Or perhaps the easy explanation? They were on the right track. possibly. But the doubt is enough for me to not vote for him. annnd you're right i should be equally cautious towards voting for you. But i think a no-lynch is giving away any chance of winning :S | ||
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##Vote: No lynch | ||
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^^look at dat desperate scum xD + Show Spoiler + oh shit, my vote didn't count | ||
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##Vote: JarJarDrinks | ||
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