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check rayn calling kush town to someone... "agreeing" that he's town
On April 22 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
-snip-
Not sure if retarded..... or kush.... Same thing really. This was bound to happen, but kush gets a townread from me for it.
On April 22 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Agreed.
How about we lynch the guy who claimed miller?
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.
he's responding to rayn here and coaxing the thread in two different ways
seems to be they're doing good cop, bad cop
scumbuddying
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On April 22 2013 01:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
I could lynch BM or a lurker or something. Everyone talking is sounding more or less town to me.
parroting an earlier thread sentiment
says the word sounding as if he could know they are not "more or less" town
really ambiguous wording
fos ve
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On April 28 2013 06:53 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 06:45 Bill Murray wrote:On April 28 2013 06:40 Sharrant wrote:On April 28 2013 06:40 yamato77 wrote:On April 28 2013 06:37 Sharrant wrote:On April 28 2013 06:35 yamato77 wrote:
Vick Ace for obvious on clarity
proceed to win game
GG What are you even saying? Vigi Ace for obvibus on Clarity And here's where you tell me that's a joke, right? Right? 1) i figured that's what he was saying 2) i dont think he's joking 3) ignore him; he's a vi No, can't ignore him. Need to know if he's joking or not. It's very important. Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 06:45 Bill Murray wrote:yo On April 22 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 22 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.
That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this. What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one? Vivax could you answer this? I don't think there can be two self-aware millers. Don't see much point in discussing that atm, why does it concern you at this point? BM didn't even answer yet. Because the OP clearly states there can be multiple number of same roles, so discussing if there are one or more self-aware millers in stupid in the first place. Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched. ##Vote: Bill Murray anyone remember this post? all i said was "sheverus shnape" i didnt claim ANYTHING town vivax is wanting to question me scum rayn is wanting to push a mislynch on a vet FoS rayn On April 22 2013 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 22 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.
That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this. What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one? Vivax could you answer this? I don't think there can be two self-aware millers. Don't see much point in discussing that atm, why does it concern you at this point? BM didn't even answer yet. What concerns me about you on this is the following: You state that there is no reason to discuss this atm, yet you are giving BM an out in the first place by discussing the matter and saying this kinda stuff: he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ).And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape. Why are you so eager to give BM the "right" answers if you want him to expalin himself? attacks vivax when i dont need an out due to the wording, hell, the LETTERING being an obvious joke...... trying to make an associative tell and chainlynch on d1.... scummy scummy scum On April 22 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them. I think that ship sailed already. this interaction with another scumspect of mine, kush, makes him look awful im saying kush, rayn, and WoS are maf how many are left? brb once i find if WoS chimed in on this I'm honestly not seeing Kush as mafia, I've played with him before, and he's a very stream of consciousness player. His first posts gave me such a town read on him I really don't think he's mafia. I'll look into him again before the night's out, but I don't see it at this point. I think you should take a glance at Stutters. If I could flip anyone right now it would be him. I am almost 100% on him being mafia after Clarity's flip, though if Shiao flips scum I'd be null on him, I think. I'm not sure how I would feel about flipping Rayn this early. I will think about it more, that he was on Clarity's wagon is enough for me to not want him dead at this point, but I'll read over his entry onto the wagon and what was going on before that.
anyone else you want me to look into? i have a bit of time right now... I'm trying to find WoS and if he had a reaction to it, but I want it in context... I guess i'm gonna have to filter dive so i can quit spamming about something associative
kush is starting to lean more towards the null area for me, and i'm going to take your word on it, and backtrack on what i've been posting
rayn's reaction isn't town, though, or he doesn't know how to play as town
his actions towards me have no town sentiment
if kush is mafia, though, i'll tell you what... look into palmar. palmar's only scummy thing in the thread relates to kush, so if kush is lynched, and flips maf, palmar goes from a solid town read to a wavering one for me. like, i would lynch him in lylo if kush is maf
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On April 22 2013 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
HEURISTIC
Ok hai guise I'm awake. Bill Murray has gone and done a very interesting thing and I'm not so sure I understand his line of thinking in millerclaiming so early. Waiting on dat Palmar explanation.
CC you're so town-looking this early you've gotta be scum. Jes' sayin'.
Also Getmoript I didn't realize you guys were hydra-ing. Is it Geript/Mocsta? If so I think my earlier comment about you finding me scummy every game still pretty much applies since you both do it, really.
Um...real talk don't have much by way of reads yet, but VE looks to be town to me. Let the Day 1 shitfest continue and let's all learn something fun! Remember to swish and flick!
actually this makes palmar look TERRIBLE if WoS is scum!!!
Could easily be Palmar+WoS+Kush if rayn is town and kush is scum... can there be 4 left? they can all be scum
WoS doesn't come in disputing or ccing at all... he's scum
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Town regime:
Bill Murray
Ace
Palmar
BloodyCobbler
Sharrant
Probably town, not 100% in order:
Grush57
Mr. Cheesecake
TheRavensName
Artanis[Xp]
getmoript
ObviousOne
Grush57
Policy lynches:
Yamato77
Hopeless1der
Stutters695
ShiaoPi
GiygaS
Scum in here:
raynpelikoneet
Kushm4sta
Sylencia
VisceraEyes
WaveofShadow
I want to leave rayn for now. I also want to leave kush. I want to lynch VE, Sylencia, or WoS... preferably VE or WoS, as Sylencia is more of a gutread
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ok i figured 5 scum, but i hadnt really read through all the roles, as there could be any in any amount, so i wasn't seeing a real point to it until we had some claims and i could coordinate with others
what is the likelihood we have a 3rd party or two? ... that sucks, but it is a distinct possibility.
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On April 28 2013 07:20 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:16 yamato77 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:05 Sharrant wrote:
Yamato, do you have any desire whatsoever to lynch Ace? Lots of desire, very serious. Will talk at length later, not at home. Viging me is fine, since I will flip town and people will stop being dumb about what I say anyway. I'm excited about this, I want to read it, because right now this reads to me as a scum claim from you. Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:15 grush57 wrote:
i meant that whoever the sk or sp shoots will get killed no matter what.
there was 2kp.
1 guy got shot.
if palmar got rbed the shot wouldnt go throw because a 3rd party + mafia would be 3kp.
so whoever roleblocked palmar do it again. The serial poisoner wouldn't show up until night 2's end though, right? Or are notifications given when a player is poisoned?
OMG ESP
LOL
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On April 28 2013 07:22 grush57 wrote:
oh thats true, I don't know if they get notified.
But certainly someone would claim if notified correct?
grush are u a basilisk bro?
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i gotta read the end of page 119, and 120
im going to put in time reading before we have our next lynch, and see how i adjust my list... In between the early 80s and 100 I need to go over, for sure, and I need to read from my "miller claim" to when I appeared next, there. I don't know the exact pages
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On April 28 2013 07:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BM why is BC obvtown and VE scum?
BC isnt "obvtown" i had him "fairly strong townread" at that positioning
even where Palmar is I question it, and see minor associative tells
Ace is the only person I in no way would push a lynch on
I suppose it's really less a lynch of "scummy" to "not scummy" and more of "i could get the town, and I, to lynch less" and "i could get the town, and I, to lynch more, being beneficial towards"
...rayn's wall. will post my thoughts.
rayn looks town or hardcore bussing in agreeing with me ...gotta put him maybe more than "leaning town"..I would have him above obviousone but not above BC by any means... BTW BC, I am an emotional player... for that, I apologize.
BC and Ace are untouchable at this point. So is Palmar, but more lynch-dependent for me. I'm not saying lynch + to get information, because that leads to negativity in the town the next day.
I am saying lynch whoever. Lynch kush because of him and rayn having complete opposite solid stances on my "claim"... that at least has the semblance of a 50:50, which town needs. By no means would that be a "chainlynch", because I would bet kush or rayn are scum over that encounter... which was really just me making fun of sevie's name... I didn't even know he was miller at the time, and haven't, in any way, read over what role name is what character to the point that I remember this character is this role I remember there is a jack, vig, ferinze is a parity cop... silly centaur.... parity cop... whatever. It's irrelevant.
Going to catch up.
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On April 28 2013 07:22 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 06:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mafia down to 1 kp for factional kp no?
Also TRN, stutters and sylencia would make good checks/vig targets.
So why shoot me? Remember the modkilled scum tried to look active and kill me, and if you looked you would know I can't be scum. My question: Why has no one really addressed WoS yet? he just claimed self aware miller but didn't counter claim before, and looked through the thread again Everyone has said WoS is scummy and yet no one except a very few amount of us have even tried to make a case against him.
TRN looks terrible for this
Is he not reading?
I just said the exact bolded
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rayn you're being illogical over "townie counter wagons" and such
i've been in a game as scum
top 3 wagons were all scum
it happens
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"Sharrant's Clarity case"
a lot of that was taken from my pressuring, and my case, honestly
I pushed it before Sharrant
Noone was interested in who was a better lynch over you, ace... and ve?... no. i KNEW who was a better lynch, and not because I have a rolelist
Ace and I have had discussion of ___ role and ___ role for mafia, and which are better to lynch, but that was on d1 relating to yamato and oats. I am null on ShiaoPi, largely, but would okay lynching him. I am not really keen on lynching someone I don't have a read on................... So I definitely cared more than you
I cared because I take full credit for Clarity being lynched, and if you don't agree with that, you don't know what you're talking about, Rayn.
Your Sylencia read is probably right, but self-preservation is largely null. He is right about Yamato/Oats being the 2 prevalent counterwagons d1. D2 I tried to get wagons on people other than Clarity, so that hurts my "credit" for "sticking with it"... but it wasn't "sharrants case" it was "sharrants defense, and countercase"
Sharrant had to DEFEND himself because it was CLARITY'S CASE.
I pressured Clarity over his weak, fabricated case, weaseling him into lying the way town-VE tries to do... haven't seen VE doing that.
VE + Sylencia for me are 1) meta on VE as VE, and 2) meta on sylencia for mafish behavior. I don't know how he plays, though, so for me it is largely gut. I don't believe you're right about the voting, or lying. Those are rookie mistakes anyone can make... I could make them as town. They are, to reiterate, largely null.
OK now he's saying he wouldn't like WoS shot, and is soft-defending him. Humorous, considering.
the end of rayn's wall has me unwavering again. I'm still leaning scum on him... I'm going to finish this wall up, but after that, I will probably be largely ignoring him
he's appealing to sense of authority lumping himself in with Ace, and casting doubt on VE
This makes me want to lynch VE less than Rayn, although I want to lynch them both eventually
I would rather go after WoS right now for that miller claim... especially with no counterclaim... TRN... I have brought this up TWICE, now... why did you parrot me?
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On April 28 2013 08:51 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 08:46 Bill Murray wrote:On April 28 2013 07:22 TheRavensName wrote:On April 28 2013 06:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mafia down to 1 kp for factional kp no?
Also TRN, stutters and sylencia would make good checks/vig targets.
So why shoot me? Remember the modkilled scum tried to look active and kill me, and if you looked you would know I can't be scum. My question: Why has no one really addressed WoS yet? he just claimed self aware miller but didn't counter claim before, and looked through the thread again Everyone has said WoS is scummy and yet no one except a very few amount of us have even tried to make a case against him. TRN looks terrible for this Is he not reading? I just said the exact bolded But it hasn't been a subject of real thread discussion which is what I mean. Your falling in where I said hes been mentioned but nothing has really been done about it. i mean technically Ray and I were pushing him too for quite a bit and nothing has happened.
"your" you mean "you're"
Dude, I JUST brought it up RIGHT BEFORE you posted this
Are you reading?
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On April 28 2013 06:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
BM surprisingly I just filter dove WoS and I do agree with you a bit. I would say his most damning bit is the not wanting to change over to clarity for a lynch. However if shiao flips mafia as well then WoS imo would be more in the clear than not.
i could kiss you right now
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On April 28 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 08:48 Bill Murray wrote:
rayn you're being illogical over "townie counter wagons" and such
i've been in a game as scum
top 3 wagons were all scum
it happens I know it happens, but it's unlike. If VE is town then i would without a doubt lynch yamato. You are also being illogical: Show nested quote +rayn looks town or hardcore bussing in agreeing with me ...gotta put him maybe more than "leaning town"..
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Lynch kush because of him and rayn having complete opposite solid stances on my "claim"... that at least has the semblance of a 50:50, which town needs. By no means would that be a "chainlynch", because I would bet kush or rayn are scum over that encounter... I don't see how having different opinion on something like that is a scumtell and why one of us has to be scum. Kush has been making very little sense but my opinion of him is that he usually does not make much sense. And i can see how he reaches his conclusions in D1 (in a weird way - agreed on that).
.. flip flopping isn't being illogical
town flip flop more than scum
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TRN BC also said shoot him... like twice... Ace said why you have to.... it's obvious
It really makes me see why me making a joke about a random character's name who I didn't know the exact role for is funny
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On April 28 2013 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah and WoS also claimed miller, that makes him a shot #1.
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OK last post for me... and I'm going to take a break... I don't want to spam up the thread...
Rayn, how come you said he's "shot number one" but you don't have him listed as scum? (wos)
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