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On April 22 2013 08:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Despite the fact that this was originally specifically addressed to marv, the fact remains you wrote that list post and I'd like to know what your thoughts on Palmar are.
He's making sense and thus more likely to be town. If he doesn't die by night 2 I'll look into that read further. I just see very little point in trying to get a read on a player who I have little actual experience with and never had a very serious read on either way, seems to have a history of variable activity, and is likely to be a target of an NK if town. If he dies, then I'll dive him. If he doesn't, then I'll likely try to lynch him. It's not worth the effort and so long as he's making sense I don't see a point in not sheeping him.
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The first game I played in here was with Sylencia IIRC and he/she was afk for most of it.
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On April 22 2013 08:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Your post makes sense but it seems to be a little conflicted. Calling him town is a read, and yet in the same post you say you don't see a point in trying to get a read on him. Why bother calling him town if you're so unsure of yourself?
I said I wasn't interested in lynching into him. There's a difference between saying I'm not interested in lynching him today and calling him town, dear.
You also say you don't see a point in not sheeping him; do you agree with his assessment of BM's pseudo-claim?
Other than + Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 01:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim. No, that's stupid. self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it. In a setup where their existence and numbers are known they should claim. In this setup they really shouldn't. Your responsibility as a self-aware miller in a set-up like this. Ideally we policy lynch miller claims on day one. But I want to think on it because there are a ton of stupid people around who might think it's a good idea to claim miller. You being a good example. Will explain more when I have a keyboard.
On April 22 2013 08:45 Palmar wrote:
So why does that make him most likely town?
Because as scum in The Game the first thing I did after checking my pm was get into the QT and start posting there and try to figure out something to coordinate to do, how to act, who to not attack, have posts edited etc. I think new scum are far more likely to try and post from a position of comfort.
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Dear Yamato,
In hydra we were on a similar page for much of day 1. In PYP it was easy to discern your alignment in the picking phase. It's nearing 24 hours in and I have no read on you. What changed?
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You aren't posting either. What are we supposed to make of that? You said in hydra iirc that as scum you're blatantly obvious as scum. If you're town why not engage us? Everything you've posted so far is blah and you're 'pressure' on your 'targets' is non-existent. Why those four?
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On April 22 2013 12:58 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:57 getmoript wrote:
You aren't posting either. What are we supposed to make of that? You said in hydra iirc that as scum you're blatantly obvious as scum. If you're town why not engage us? Everything you've posted so far is blah and you're 'pressure' on your 'targets' is non-existent. Why those four? If I'm not obviscum, then don't worry about it.
Why shouldn't I? The simplest answer for not posting or pressuring anyone right now is that you don't want to become obviscum.
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Right with you WoS. I've got a cardiac test tomorrow, what do you have?
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Can't you guys just stop and think for a second. You both could be scum you know.
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Yamato can you walk me through why you're suspicious of Oats?
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Oats since you're here, why do you want to lynch yamato?
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Ok, so why don't you want to lynch him now?
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What about the VE case made you exactly think that?
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So Clarity, are you seriously flat out admitting to not reading the thread and making a case off of a random filter?
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On April 23 2013 11:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 11:42 getmoript wrote:
What about the VE case made you exactly think that? That it exists mostly? Also FEELS like town yamato case.
Here's my problem with both of you. The typical 'vet' heuristic is that people that share reads with you are likely to be town. You two in fact seem to share a great many reads + Show Spoiler +On April 23 2013 10:18 Oatsmaster wrote:4) DoctorHelvetica: Replacment incoming 13) Ace: scum scum scum KILL WITH FIRE(no reason, someone has to be scum though) 14) Tube: Replacement 15) Drazak: Useless (null) 16) Clarity_nl: Replacement 17) Mr. Cheesecake: Protown=scummy, hasnt chimed in on yamato/oats so yeah leaning scum 19) Yamato77: Dont know, feels like scum yamato, case on VE says otherwise  . Scum yamato doesnt post cases like that AFAIK 20) ShiaoPi: Scum where you go bro? Lurker lurker lurker. Actually when you look back at the yamato vs me, scum dont post during stuff like that I have seen outside max 1 or 2 players 23) Sylencia: NULL NULL NULL lurker 24) BloodyCobbler:KILL WITH FIRE IF HE LIVES DAY 2. 25) VisceraEyes: I have no fucking clue, but killing VE is fun On April 23 2013 04:27 yamato77 wrote:
For the record, I would also lynch Oats for being a snarky ass on the sidelines and not actually being involved like I know town Oats to be.
Ace is lynchable because his reasoning for throwing suspicion on me is ass and he's been posting bullshit the entire game.
BC is nullish, despite my earlier proclamation. He could have made that post as either alignment. More information is necessary to lynch him.
CC is too quiet to be town CC. His "tunnel me" charade is a copycat from Nomination where he replaced in day 1. His shitty null reads are also indicative of him being mafia; town CC calls people mafia and gives no fucks about being wrong.
And VE is mafia because his reasoning for being suspicious of me is ass, just like Ace. Only VE is even worse because he should know better. Unfortunately, however, a VE that blindly follows thread sentiment is a scum VE. Lynch him.
However, it isn't until now that you seem to be interested in not voting him despite essentially calling him town earlier you still vote for him. At least he thinks you're scum which somewhat justifies his vote, but your vote seems to be purely survival. Explain how you justify voting for someone who you think is town and shares many of your reads.
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So you voted for a town read when you got mad. Are you serious? I can't even keep a straight face right now considering how fucking hilarious of an excuse that is.
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It is a big deal. Like a huge deal. I've been pissed before, but never have I thought for voting for a town read. That's just unfathomable. Even when I'm mad I case up and vote for people who I think are scum. Flat out admitting that even when you voted for him you thought he was town is just. There's just not words for it.
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On April 23 2013 10:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because fast lynching me, I flip town. So like Ego mafia where you dudes fast lynched Ace, no info no nothing bro.
##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato
On April 23 2013 10:18 Oatsmaster wrote:19) Yamato77: Dont know, feels like scum yamato, case on VE says otherwise . Scum yamato doesnt post cases like that AFAIK
14 minutes in between these two posts. For being 'mad' you sure did clear your head really quickly enough to think that he's town but not enough to unvote for him. Many of your reads are mirrors of his (VE, BC, Ace) and you are agreeing that he's not scum but none of that warrants unvoting him?
On April 23 2013 11:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
VE, do you wanna lynch Yamato or me? Im confused.
You clearly don't seem to be not interested in a Yamato lynch here. In fact, you're more than happy to direct your scum read VE towards a Yamato vote. + Show Spoiler +Seriously? Do you really think you'd be able to bully scum to vote elsewhere especially a vet like VE?
On April 23 2013 11:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im town, yamato is town. Who is scum?
##Unvote
Oh wait, no you're not. Now he's firmly town. The excuse that we're supposed to believe is that you were mad and voted for a then scumread only to unvote when prompted?
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On April 23 2013 14:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Geript. Why do you think I 180ed then? Dont you think it wouldve been in my best interests as scum to try and get really spammy yamato lynched? What is the scum objective of me trying to get people to think of alternative targets rather than yamato? Show nested quote +Seriously? Do you really think you'd be able to bully scum to vote elsewhere especially a vet like VE?
Explain this? I bully scum, means Im not scum? Or what? Scumslip? Or what?
1. I don't care about the 180; I care about voting for a townread On April 23 2013 09:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Yamato is really bleh, but I never played in a game with him as scum and this feels like Boardwalk lategame.
and On April 23 2013 09:48 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah, Oats' return is not impressive.
On April 23 2013 09:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
sorry for not writing a 5 page post THAT THIS DUDE IS SCUM.
Can we lynch Ace? I would like to keep his streak of getting mislynched in like almost every game.(scumslip :o)
However the fact that you seem to 180 in the direction of whoever you're talking to/about you 'change' your mind to match their viewpoint at the time is odd. Hell you don't even realize your vote is on Yamato an untenable position until I bring it up. That's pure survival mentality and obvious scum. You seemed more than willing to get yamato lynched when talking to VE but were willing to join yamato's wagon of justice on ace. The wagon on yamato looks like it had come and gone and you were next on the block. I think shifting people back to yamato would've been tougher than shifting them elsewhere.
On April 23 2013 14:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Explain this? I bully scum, means Im not scum? Or what? Scumslip? Or what?
At that time you were all down for a Scum VE lynch. At the time you were ALSO trying to shift VE's vote onto someone else. You can't tell me it's not weird as shit. Your actions tell me that you know that VE is town but that you aren't willing to say that.
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As for Clarity. Holy Shit. I'll have to look into that more when I get back from clinical. I swear this game is like bizarro world.
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