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On April 27 2013 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I would attest that he's already responded insanely badly. As would I, however its also selfish as I want to have the night period one I can actually talk if required. If we end it now, I can only ensure being around for 4-5 hours of it at most and thats pushing it alot. | ||
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On April 27 2013 05:55 Ace wrote: ShiaoPi's crime looks like sheeping Palmar to vote for you  He probably hasn't caught up because he has no time, but how is that more guilty than Clarity's case that Sharrant made? BTW I'm clearly willing to switch, but I want to get your reasonings correct. Because some of the people hopping on the wagon might be sheeping you. If they don't even understand your reasons for voting and sheeped that looks bad on them. He said he was caught up Ace. | ||
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On April 27 2013 06:08 Ace wrote: I mentioned it because Palmar was also trying to get you lynched but it was partly sarcasm. I understand the point of ShiaoPi not reading the thread - I'm asking how does that make him more guilty than Clarity? Remember Clarity hasn't even shown up since Sharrant blasted him. Wouldn't Shiao's reappearance and terrible reason to jump on a bandwagon before vanishing again be more damning than someone who just isn't playing? Mafia just lost someone to modkills and I find it unlikely they would let another member of their team do so. Shiao is doing the exact minimum from what I can see to dodge modkills while not actually adding anything to the thread. | ||
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On April 27 2013 07:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Ace why are you focusing on the wagons? Why not outlying voters? I recognize i am not ace. However I would hazard a guess its this. By focusing on the wagons and clearing them of the mafia on them you end up with a list of confirmed or semi confirmed players as town. IE it does two things at once. | ||
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On April 27 2013 07:08 yamato77 wrote: BC, what do you say to my response? Since you're obviously here, reading. still mulling it over. I am happy I waited to let you respond rather than trying to lynch you while you were gone however. | ||
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On April 27 2013 07:12 yamato77 wrote: I'm no longer accusing BC of anything. I'm just saying, this voting analysis of wagons is inconclusive at best. Mafia vote for mafia, town vote for town, and his list of "confirmed" players may not even be accurate, lol. I honestly don't like confirming people via voting wagons unless we have a list check dt. I was answering the question asked (although to ace) because it was something that I wanted a potential viewing of how I see it out there in case he answers differently. I would say the most damning thing against shiaopi at this point in time is his angry post calling out tube. People who would be most angry specifically at tube is a mafia imo although thats an insane stretch and even i realize that | ||
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Also TRN, stutters and sylencia would make good checks/vig targets. | ||
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On April 28 2013 07:22 TheRavensName wrote: So why shoot me? Remember the modkilled scum tried to look active and kill me, and if you looked you would know I can't be scum. My question: Why has no one really addressed WoS yet? he just claimed self aware miller but didn't counter claim before, and looked through the thread again Everyone has said WoS is scummy and yet no one except a very few amount of us have even tried to make a case against him. I said shoot him. | ||
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Why wouldn't you kill him? WoS at that moment was in no danger to being auto killed IMO and he claimed self aware miller. We already had this talk day 1. I believe my stance is straight forward. Although I can think of a few reasons not to | ||
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Stutters. He replaced for DrH. DrH made 0 posts and since stutters replaced in he has made basically none as well. He has promised detailed posts that have not come and he defended clarity and attempted to push lynch towards shiao. Without Shiaos flip I cannot say if this was a 100% scum move. However given the flip of clarity + the activity level of stutters and his lack of real involvement while around makes me say scum. Artanis[xp]. This guy is intriguing. He has since joining the game replacing drazak done a lot of defending VE, made a lot of excuses of "lazy and haven't read up on x players, or filtered my main scum reads" Aside from not being overly helpful in terms of pushing the lynch along or even voting at all. The conversations he has had in thread are very superficial and easily left unnoticed as if hes attempting to be appear active without being active. hopeless1nder. He has done absolutely nothing this game. His biggest reads are "sharrant is scum" who if i recall properly was one of the first people to heavily push clarity, when his biggest reason for sharrant is scum is based on one specific read he has. He also ignored clarity almost completely as someone to talk about because of his read on sharrant. Given that clarity was also talked about by Ace, VE, and the like it should be at least something he mentions when he votes. Yamato. I have stated many things about this guy. I am not the only person who has called him out for his performance. Anyone who finds this suspicious or odd of me should more be asking "why does bc still have this guy as a scum read" when the answer is very clear in his filter. Sylencia. To many weird posts. I can't explain them in the least and they just have a feeling of "off" On April 27 2013 10:05 Sylencia wrote: Clarity hasn't been here for 72 hours now .. in which case I'd much rather go for the kill on Shiao today. I won't be around for much today (though I guess you could argue I haven't been around too much), since I'm going to be at a LAN tournament, but I'll try sneak a peek at the topic whenever I can. ##Vote ShiaoPi This for one is very weird to me. I say this because the reasoning to push the lynch onto Shiao is just weird. We don't know if he will get modkilled so pushing the lynch off to someone else is imo scummy. I also view it as a defense move of clarity. This alone is not enough for me to say scum however when I looked through his filter and found On April 25 2013 01:28 Sylencia wrote: CC - Kush Town Voted Getmoript due to wishy washyness Unvoted due to incident. Leaned towards oats based on effort. Wants to lynch ShiaoPi Sharrent Town read Note: Mentions being town billions of times WaveOfShadow: VE Town Read Voted Getmoript due to answer dodging Unvoted due to incident. Becomes a bit suspicious of VE due to lack of posting. Sharrant town read Suspicious of ShiaoPi due to attack on Sharrant Reinforced Sharrant town read grush: bandwagons yamato suspects gigyas due to bandwagon. a lot of off topic comments Note: I'm suspicious of grush here for his hypocritical reasoning: Yet his bandwagon: When asked about whether he would vote Yamato. Tube: ??? Drazak: Has posted, but has never returned since. Giygas: Suspected Oats due to attitude and lack of posts. Hopeless not suspected as scum Sharrant town read Would've supported yamato lynch if hammertime. Sylencia: Semi-suspected TRN due to the rayn defense provided Suspects Rayn due to inconsistent statements about miller lynch / scum suspicion of BM Wagoned on Oats due to lack of town contribution from Oats. VisceraEyes: Early on uneasy about Palmar. Voted getmoript for bad case against yamato (?) Suspected yamato due to "Oh well you know my posting was INTENTIONALLY bad". types of posts voted BM due to his response to BC (quote is below) Note: I don't see what is so bad about this post in general, apparently it comes off as antagonistic. Switches to yamato a few hours later without ever mentioning BM again, despite already getting a response from him and being responded to with a request for an explanation. Says he can get behind an Oats lynch. Only now does he decide to actually read yamato's filter. (Vote was originally pure omgus) switches to oats for original suspicion of oats (2 points above) Note: Reading the filter and looking at some of the points in context such as the argument for BM has made me feel rather suspicious towards VE. Now, I will continue going through everyone's filters for their suspicions and other points tomorrow if I am still alive (public holiday hooray), but from what I have seen as of so far, I would like opinions on VE and grush (am I missing something about grush gameplay here?) Also, I fully know well that filter dive posts doesn't show anything about alignment, so no need to mention that too thx This is a summary post. It is a very fucked up way to play and imo does not help at all in the slightest. It summarizes some peoples play at that point in the game. The thing that stands out most to me however is that he chose tube. Why would you add a player who has not posted at all as a player to summarize? Given the awkwardness of its structure / how it says nothing new at all I feel it + the previous post I quoted are pretty damning. WaveofShadow. This guy has been discussed a bunch already. I feel he has to be dealt with because of his claim. The only way I am comfortable with him not dying is if he seriously steps up and plays solidly and gives me a reason to think of him as a miller and not confirmed scum. | ||
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On April 29 2013 02:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: BC, do you think being lazy makes me scum? Yes. Not being caught up on the thread while actively stating reads (although with weak reasoning) is incredibly shady. That is time that could have been spent reading and forming more solid reads or taking more information into account for a read. | ||
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On April 29 2013 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Reading 40+ pages and analyzing them takes longer than reading along with current thread events. The latter is also more fun. I've always said that I hate big games, and this game was already underway for 60+ pages by the time I replaced in. This has nothing to do with alignment, just with my personality. Perhaps. Issue is that you replaced in at page 72. Which was almost exactly 4 days ago. I recognize there is a ton of content to read, however catching up I don't think would be the hardest thing in the world over that period of time. | ||
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On April 29 2013 03:13 VisceraEyes wrote: BC WHY does everyone read Palmar as town? Srs I can't figure it out. No one seems to know why he's town, but no one wants to lynch him even though it's going on D3 and he's been completely useless. He even tried to derail the Clarity lynch ONTO ME early in D2, yet is trying to take credit for being "right"? WTF I honestly cant figure out if hes third or mafia. I think hes a better vig than lynch atm | ||
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On April 29 2013 08:50 Palmar wrote: Oh there will be a case. But first I need allies. So far I have Artanis[xp]. If you need allies you aren't intending on making a real case. You are intending one of said allies does the work for you, I flip town, and you blame them. Come on Palmar. If you thought I was mafia and you town you would have already begun making said case. Instead you are pestering people to see if you have enough people already willing to vote for me to avoid having to do any work. The more you keep going on this charade of "finding people" the more confirmed you are as not town. | ||
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