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yamato77
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On May 06 2013 17:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If he fakes a green check, he's claiming insane so he's going to have to actually make up alignments as he goes along, if any of them flip and aren't what they're supposed to be then it'll implicate him. We can choose for him whom we want him to check. If he's red, we know we can disregard the entire check. The problem is, he knows everyone's alignment. So he can just keep "checking" townies to stay alive. I'd rather just lynch him. | ||
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yamato77
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On May 06 2013 17:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: We can choose for him whom he has to check. If he refuses, we lynch him. In what scenario do you think a scum Palmar is going to lie about his check/sanity in an obvious enough way to get caught? This, in no way, helps us figure out Palmar's true alignment. | ||
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yamato77
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This plan is bad. We should just lynch Palmar. | ||
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What kind of cop cares so little about figuring out his sanity in a game like this that he not only claims after one check, but also FORGETS TO SEND IN A CHECK after having not even confirmed his own sanity? Palmar is not this bad at mafia. | ||
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But hey, who does that nowadays, right? | ||
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He's the only person besides Hopeless, and perhaps you, that I would consider mafia. | ||
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On May 07 2013 01:54 Palmar wrote: hey yamato, explain why you want to lynch me please. I've been talking about reasons I don't like you this game for days. | ||
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On May 07 2013 01:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He claims to have an information role. I wish for him to live another day to acquire said information. ...this is scummy how? Because the information it supposedly gains us is only useful if he's town, and it's not even necessarily that useful in the first place. | ||
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On May 07 2013 01:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also if I'm scum with Palmar why the hell would I want you off the table when Hopeless flips town? So you look good when everyone else decides to lynch me? | ||
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On May 07 2013 02:01 Palmar wrote: I've gone back about 5 days in your filter and literally the only reasoning is that you expect me to use my role in a certain fashion and I don't do that. Do you think that makes me scum? I expect you to not be the second worst cop I've ever seen, yes. | ||
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On May 07 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yes, and there's no downside to letting him live for a day more to have a practically confirmed BC in case he IS town. When Palmar flips and he flips green BC is in a whole lotta shit. If we confirm he's insane and not paranoid and he flips cop then we might not actually end up killing BC, saving us a potential mislynch. Fair point, but I won't let you get lynched. I'll have to mull it over. I guess I'm fine with killing off Hopeless today, but something feels off about the lynch. I don't like how everyone has now invented desire to lynch Hopeless. | ||
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No longer do I have faith in you being town. Your cop claim is alignment null AT BEST, and so is the rest of your play. At worst, it's pretty fucking scummy. You checked OO, supposedly to confirm your own sanity, and then VE, I suppose in the same pursuit? It seems convenient that you checked VE the night he gets shot by mafia. But as I said before, you've constructed a possible narrative to you not being mafia; you're just bad at cop. Why should I believe you? I have no reason to trust the word of Palmar this game. | ||
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On May 07 2013 03:53 Palmar wrote: "I don't think you've done anything like mafia would do, or acted like mafia, but you're probably mafia anyway" I don't even know how to argue with this. No, it means you haven't given me any reason to think you're town, and lategame, that's a fucking gigantic problem. In the games I have played with you when you lived past night 1, I could easily read you as town. Most day 1's I can read you as town. I haven't had a solid town read on you the entire game. That's a problem, Palmar. It's enough for me to want to hang you this late in the game. | ||
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On May 07 2013 03:32 TheRavensName wrote: Perhaps when someone is actually a threat and likely to get protection. Vivax just lead a mislynch, which made protection quite unlikely. i don't see why Mafia would throw away their only gauranteed night of double shooting with how much of their team was afk/under suspicion. Just because someone was wrong about the lynch they led on day 1 does not make them a bad shot. Vivax was an unexpected NK, but I don't think anyone was suspicious of him whatsoever. It's important for scum to keep people like Vivax dead. If town is listening to someone, even if that person is wrong at that time, you should kill them. You never let town form a cohesive group. That's what the Vivax/Rayn/OO NKs were all about. No one suspected them, and they were listened to, to a certain extent. | ||
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