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Lynchs: D1 Oats D2 Clarity D3 Sylencia D4 Shiao D5 Ace D6 Yamato D7 Kush NKs N1 Vivax + ??? (likely Ace) N2 Grush + Rayn N3 MrCC N4 VE N5 OO N6 Sharrant N7 TRN Roleblocks: N1 Palmar + BC N2 Ace + ??? (likely Ace) N3 Ace + VE N4 Ace ??? N5 BC?? N6 ??? Palmar checks: N1: BC--roleblocked N2: BC--red N3: VE--red N4: none N5: WoS--red N6: Geript--red N7: ??? + Show Spoiler [Palmar pushes] + D1: Oats/Geript/VE+ Show Spoiler + On April 22 2013 09:27 Palmar wrote: VE is to me one of the easiest people to read in this game. Not worried enough about him to spend time wondering about stuff like that. D2: VE / Clarity sheep for no reason D3: BC challenge thing with roleclaim / Sylencia D4: obv Shiao D5: Ace for 3p + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2013 06:02 Sharrant wrote: As do I, but the whole reason we're having this conversation is because Palmar sait that Ace is confirmed as third party, however unlikely mafia shooting Grush is, only mafia know for certain whether Ace is third party or not. Thus it is very important. And yeah, WoS, I just felt it needed to be reminded to everyone else again. Only the first bit was about you, the rest was to everyone else. Patience and repetition. Hey, Palmar, what checks did you do, and what results did you receive? You checked BC (RB'ed), BC (guilty), VE (guilty) is there one I'm missing? D6: BC yet again after calling him likely town / Yamato D7: Getmoript Basically if you read the filter, all Palmtree has been doing all game is flat out calling people scum for no reason whatsoever. He refuses to actually produce any sort of analysis and continually talks about how much shit he's done. If someone calls him scum, then he calls them scum and his name has way more weight behind it for no reason. He's been intentionally useless all game long and as of D8 HAS YET TO LEAD A LYNCH ON SCUM!!!. I have a real hard time believing that Palmar is absolutely this bad. In fact, with the exception of Clarity everyone who is dead who he's called scum was green and he didn't do shit at all to push Clarity. Looking at the NKs, I can't see a reason for scum to not kill Palmar on N5 in line with the rest of the cops unless they already knew that that he was paranoid which of course is impossible considering his 2 results to that point. On top of that, as best we can know BOTH SCUM AND TOWN seem to have roleblocked Ace on N2; because of Ace's response to Palmar's claimed "taking a hit" I think Ace actually took a hit N1 which lead to scum RBing him on N2. Plus, throughout the series of Palmar's pushes against more vet players he completely avoids pushing Ace entirely. Palmar must be scum; why else would he be alive at this point? | ||
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On May 16 2013 08:42 Palmar wrote: Calling my "sheep" on clarity having no reason is a gross misrepresentation Geript. Hell, there were confirmed townies who sheeped MY reasons for lynching Clarity. [spioler] On April 27 2013 18:58 Palmar wrote: [/spoiler]Still think VE is the best lynch. But I do agree with a clarity lynch. I still don't understand how he entered the thread "catching up" and then had a fully fledged case within an hour. There was additionally no interest in pushing that lynch any harder. There is literally not a single "sharrant" in his filter after the case. It just doesn't feel natural. He didn't ask Sharrant anything to try to determine his alignment, no "hey sharrant, explain this" or "what do you think about this". Just a straight up case with no build-up and no follow-up. Which basically tells me his heart wasn't really in it. So with that I'm switching my vote to Clarity. Lessgo. This is the most I saw you write on him and comes after pushing VE for a while. I don't consider that amazing especially since those numerous 'confirmed townies' were 2 CC and Kush. Now who's lying since wasn't it Vivax and BM who brought Clarity to the forefront? | ||
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On May 16 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote: Also, just so I have your metrics clear. Am I correct in my understanding that it's scummy for me not to have lead a lynch on scum by day 8, but not scummy for you? It's scummy that I haven't been shot, but not you? It's scummy that "I refuse to give analysis" but the fact that I probably have twice the amount you have, but that's ok? I just want us to be on the same page for the discussion. Are these three things all true? No, I admitted that there's no good reason for BC, you or me to be alive. And yes, I hold a good player to a higher standard than myself. Can you explain why you've been so wrong Emperor Palmtree? | ||
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On May 16 2013 09:53 Palmar wrote: Do you stand by your assessment that I have done no analysis or refused to give reasoning this game? Is this opinion of yours based on extensive read of my filter? Your reasoning for voting for people has pretty consistently been that they called you scum aside from clarity and that was well after clarity was already going to happen. You've failed to produce analysis which actually has lead to a scum lynch. So yah. | ||
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On May 16 2013 10:24 Palmar wrote: @Geript, can you please give your reasons as to why you thought Kush was scum. You hammered him without much analysis at all, even after I asked people to relax. I didn't care. I had a town read on him from earlier in the game; people didn't buy my reasoning on you clearly. So if I wanted to lynch you then I figured he'd have to go first. How is it that all of the town reads you've gotten right seem to die just afterwards: Vivax town D1 died N1 Rayn sheep died N2 Grush died N2 although likely by Ace CC dead N3 Sharrant dead N5 Artanis dead N6 Stutters/BM got mod killed But like every guy you've called town except for two Ace/Shiao died And yah, you called Shiao town too iirc. Yet, if you're so good at spotting other town why have you been kept around especially when you claimed cop D3 and by you own admission could've been insane; yet you just 'assumed' that you're paranoid. | ||
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On May 17 2013 07:05 Palmar wrote: Please modkill the people who abused the fucking time after the hammer was made to make themselves look town Lol | ||
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side note: claiming paranoid cop on D3 makes sense to try to kill a possible SK or quit a losing effort Technically he could be sane if I'm a framer and framed BC N2 then VE N3 but that would make him sane or paranoid which would still mean an autokill practically. Plus, that would be a super odd setup with 2 framers and 2 millers. | ||
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