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VE how did you like my case?
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On May 02 2013 01:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar what say you? I won't be here to manipulate/reason with if you're town so now's the time sir.
mine is better but yours is ok.
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checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid
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yamato's play has been different from for example the game he hydra'd with geript. But at the same time my initial impression was just "different" but not "scummy".
but then again if he's just gonna afk we might as well murder him.
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On May 02 2013 06:40 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 06:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 06:27 Ace wrote:
We lynch Palmar Good reasoning. I'm pretty sure Palmar isn't on the block for today unless you can come up with something that puts him above everyone else we've been talking about. At least lazy as fuck paranoid cop fits with how he's been playing all game, as unhelpful as it is. You on the other hand are completely different from how you've been playing just a few days ago. Were you roleblocked? Or did you conveniently forget to mention it again? I've got a job but my activity hasn't died. I've been around. And yes OF COURSE I was roleblocked. Palmar gets lynched because his claim was shoddy to begin with. "I'm lazy" isn't a valid defense lol. He wanted to lynch BC and didn't even take into account he could be paranoid. Get rid of him.
Still want to lynch BC. I checked him cause I thought he was scum.
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Someone needs to write an actual case on me if you want to try to lynch me.
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I'm going to sleep. Please don't lynch me in the next 24 hours. You may not realize it yet, but I'm actually town. And I don't like losing so I want time to construct a good amount of final thoughts on this game before I die.
So just hold your horses until I go to sleep tomorrow night, then you can lynch me if you want to.
Even if you think I'm scum it's strictly the wrong play to not let me share all my thoughts, since you might find a "slip" to who is my "teammate" in it.
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so wait, we just confirmed Ace as 3p?
gj yamato you're boss.
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On May 03 2013 01:13 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Stutters, thoughts on BC case go.
Yamato: I think it's very likely that it was a 3rd party kill because I don't think Grush was a player that scum really feared. I'll type up a more detailed version soon but I'm not nearly as sold on it as I am on hopeless or even Palmar. I'm having doubts about Palmar but until he delivers on his promised big post I'd rather him over bc.
that's cause you're BC's remaining scumbuddy.
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I didn't promise a case. I just said I wanted to get my thoughts out before I died.
I cba if you're actually not going to kill me. Gonna play some dota instead.
also it's scummy to think I'm scum at this point.
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also, assuming ace is 3p, can someone like explain to me why it's a bad idea to just lynch him so the JK is free to try to counter the mafia nightkill?
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also, since the 3ps are compulsive, and there shouldn't have been 2 kills on night whateveritwas, isn't he almost confirmed? sharrant, explain to me why not?
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On May 03 2013 06:02 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 05:54 yamato77 wrote:On May 03 2013 05:52 Sharrant wrote:On May 03 2013 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:How so yamato? Also wtf Sharrant you accuse me of not reading then you say this? On May 03 2013 05:35 Sharrant wrote:On May 03 2013 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Sharrant you're wrong, there are no scum vigis left; if there were they wasted their shots on Ace or something. There is no way in hell scum would be sitting on vigi shots this late in the game. Ace is 3p, deal with it. I agree we don't lynch him yet. Vote Hopeless and let's end this day because there doesn't seem to be anything left to say. Palmar is useless and this: Whether or not he's third party, it is not good town play to lynch him. He still may be town, and either way he's one of the stronger analysts in the game. I'd rather have the counsel of a man who knows he is doomed to lose, than potentially kill a townie AND waste time not killing mafia when Ace is already a completely solved situation. is dumb. Have you not noticed Ace's considerable lack of contribution since being RBed every night? He has no desire to help town anymore because he knows he's caught. Your constant hard defenses of him in the face of overwhelming evidence troubles me, Sharrant. It seems like you've lost your way somewhere in this game. ##Vote: Hopeless1der How are you failing at reading so hard? If a scum vigi shot on night 2 it would be exactly the same as if a serial poisoner acted on night one. Please keep up. Lynching him hurts town right now.I hate playing follow the cop, it's just boring. I'm waffling on lynching Hopeless right now, going to try and figure out if I want to lynch Yamato more or less. On May 03 2013 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Sharrant you're wrong, there are no scum vigis left; if there were they wasted their shots on Ace or something. There is no way in hell scum would be sitting on vigi shots this late in the game. Ace is 3p, deal with it. I agree we don't lynch him yet.Vote Hopeless and let's end this day because there doesn't seem to be anything left to say. Palmar is useless and this: Whether or not he's third party, it is not good town play to lynch him. He still may be town, and either way he's one of the stronger analysts in the game. I'd rather have the counsel of a man who knows he is doomed to lose, than potentially kill a townie AND waste time not killing mafia when Ace is already a completely solved situation. is dumb. Have you not noticed Ace's considerable lack of contribution since being RBed every night? He has no desire to help town anymore because he knows he's caught. Your constant hard defenses of him in the face of overwhelming evidence troubles me, Sharrant. It seems like you've lost your way somewhere in this game. ##Vote: Hopeless1der Because I clearly explained where the vigi (if the scum have another vigi) had fired, and you were saying that the scum wouldn't have withheld their shot. It made no sense in the context of the conversation. It's completely out of place. I said it's possible scum could have fired on n2 if they had a second vigi, killing grush, and it would appear just the same as if a third party had done it. You responded with "Sharrant you're wrong, there are no scum vigis left; if there were they wasted their shots on Ace or something. There is no way in hell scum would be sitting on vigi shots this late in the game. Ace is 3p, deal with it. I agree we don't lynch him yet." I find it highly unlike that a mafia shot was used on Grush. As do I, but the whole reason we're having this conversation is because Palmar sait that Ace is confirmed as third party, however unlikely mafia shooting Grush is, only mafia know for certain whether Ace is third party or not. Thus it is very important. And yeah, WoS, I just felt it needed to be reminded to everyone else again. Only the first bit was about you, the rest was to everyone else. Patience and repetition. Hey, Palmar, what checks did you do, and what results did you receive? You checked BC (RB'ed), BC (guilty), VE (guilty) is there one I'm missing?
I was roleblocked n1
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oh wait, you missed obviousone
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grush and reyn because they were towny as fuck.
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On May 02 2013 10:14 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 09:37 ObviousOne wrote:
Listen to Scumcast 3, really actually listen to it don't just play it in the background. Palmar talks about D1 lynches. It totally fits with everything he said in the cast. Oats was a good D1 lynch even though Oats was town. You cannot apologize for lynching town D1, and since you are usually going to hit town you have to make it a GOOD D1 lynch. A GOOD D1 lynch gives you information without lynching for information. You have people take sides, you see who flies in the face of logic, reason, how people escape the noose. Accept the fact that D1 lynches tend to hit town, accept that he understands and embraces this, and use the information constructively. His slip isn't a scum slip, it's his actual mindset. If that was the case, he would have said so as his reasonings. he would say " I explained why, your going to hit town just accept it unless yo uget lucky Go listen to the podcast again.." He said for reasons not explained, if he had time to do a cop check first, that would be one thing. But I want to know what those unexplained reasons are, Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 10:06 Palmar wrote:On April 29 2013 05:47 TheRavensName wrote:
He also mentioned that "oh oats was always gonna flip town. I didn't really care much for reasons best left unexplained. " Even a scum would at least kind of care right? The reasons best left unexplained have now been explained. I was actively trying to be useless/awful without sabotaging town. I usually say it's a terrible idea to change your play when you roll blue... but my normal play gets me shot night 1 almost every damn game, so I decided to give it a shot. This was not a satisfactory answer.
Well it's the true answer, do you want me to go make up reasons to make you happy?
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On May 03 2013 06:06 Sharrant wrote:So you've had 3 guilty checks so far, yes? One on one confirmed town, one on a cop checked town, and one on BC, yes?
yep
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I don't want to kill hopeless?
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Like I can't remember exactly what happened, but back on day 1 hopeless came in looking somewhat scummy, then got into an argument with someone and I came away thinking he was likely town.
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On May 03 2013 06:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
Palmar->BC->Yamato-> (Ace)
I'm not scum buddy.
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