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On May 07 2013 13:43 yamato77 wrote:
Have you figured out why I think Palmar is scum over you yet?
I bet you haven't. I bet you're not even reading my posts today, because it's in there, and it's obvious.
captain waffle saying his reads and filter are obvious. My god you are amazing. i am sure if i called virtually every player in the game at some point mafia I would have the most obvious filter. Lynch everyone and you win. Just do it in a random number generated order, or whichever name i happened to see first on a page as i skim and i will snag a red. Its so brilliant my narrative skills tells me its 100% foolproof.
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On May 07 2013 13:46 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 13:43 yamato77 wrote:
Have you figured out why I think Palmar is scum over you yet?
I bet you haven't. I bet you're not even reading my posts today, because it's in there, and it's obvious. captain waffle saying his reads and filter are obvious. My god you are amazing. i am sure if i called virtually every player in the game at some point mafia I would have the most obvious filter. Lynch everyone and you win. Just do it in a random number generated order, or whichever name i happened to see first on a page as i skim and i will snag a red. Its so brilliant my narrative skills tells me its 100% foolproof. So you're not reading the thread? I guess I'll point it out to you, since you can't manage.
i just mocked your entire filter. Perhaps you should read it. You have advocated
Number generated lynches
Creative narrative on why people are red
Called virtually every one mafia at least once or twice (waffling)
You also mention you have skimmed.
For someone who keeps yelling at people to read, maybe you should read your own "active" filter. you brag about your activity enough you should remember what you say
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On May 07 2013 13:48 getmoript wrote:
Can you two please quit bitching back and forth? BC if you want to prove that yamato is scum, then aim your posts at not yamato. Yamato quit responding to BC. The back and forth is worthless.
Dude. I have made posts as to why hes scum. Ace has, VE has, Palmar has.
More people ontop of that have. Read his fucking filter. Look at how he waffles back and forth, he never solidly pushes anything. He actively defends scum and is almost always on the thread sentiment lynches. He 180s his reads for no reason, he makes up wifom situations to justify reads. He actively blames the shit behavior he has done ON OTHER PLAYERS. He is as guilty as ace for pushing the lynch onto sylencia. He flamed VE for it when VE wanted to lynch shiaopi.
The guy has actively done everything possible to save mafia and kill townies to the best of his ability all damn game while managing to dodge all blame for it. Bravo for him. Read his filter and tell me he doesn't come off horribly. Hes got 23 pages of it its not that long of a read.
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On May 07 2013 13:51 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 13:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 13:46 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 13:43 yamato77 wrote:
Have you figured out why I think Palmar is scum over you yet?
I bet you haven't. I bet you're not even reading my posts today, because it's in there, and it's obvious. captain waffle saying his reads and filter are obvious. My god you are amazing. i am sure if i called virtually every player in the game at some point mafia I would have the most obvious filter. Lynch everyone and you win. Just do it in a random number generated order, or whichever name i happened to see first on a page as i skim and i will snag a red. Its so brilliant my narrative skills tells me its 100% foolproof. So you're not reading the thread? I guess I'll point it out to you, since you can't manage. i just mocked your entire filter. Perhaps you should read it. You have advocated Number generated lynches Creative narrative on why people are red Called virtually every one mafia at least once or twice (waffling) You also mention you have skimmed. For someone who keeps yelling at people to read, maybe you should read your own "active" filter. you brag about your activity enough you should remember what you say Read the posts, and the quotes. It explains my entire play today, which you apparently can't understand.
If mafia was a game based only on single days and not cumulative then maybe i could believe your play today. Given that if you look at it compared to the rest of your play it screams scum. you should know this.
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On May 07 2013 13:58 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 13:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 13:51 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 13:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 13:46 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 13:43 yamato77 wrote:
Have you figured out why I think Palmar is scum over you yet?
I bet you haven't. I bet you're not even reading my posts today, because it's in there, and it's obvious. captain waffle saying his reads and filter are obvious. My god you are amazing. i am sure if i called virtually every player in the game at some point mafia I would have the most obvious filter. Lynch everyone and you win. Just do it in a random number generated order, or whichever name i happened to see first on a page as i skim and i will snag a red. Its so brilliant my narrative skills tells me its 100% foolproof. So you're not reading the thread? I guess I'll point it out to you, since you can't manage. i just mocked your entire filter. Perhaps you should read it. You have advocated Number generated lynches Creative narrative on why people are red Called virtually every one mafia at least once or twice (waffling) You also mention you have skimmed. For someone who keeps yelling at people to read, maybe you should read your own "active" filter. you brag about your activity enough you should remember what you say Read the posts, and the quotes. It explains my entire play today, which you apparently can't understand. If mafia was a game based only on single days and not cumulative then maybe i could believe your play today. Given that if you look at it compared to the rest of your play it screams scum. you should know this. It does to you, because you're biased. If you don't understand that concept, you're in denial. You keep appealing to authority when Ace was 3P, VE can't read me, and Palmar is mafia. You sure are good at this game, buddy.
Yea im just as good as you
You know when you called me mafia, ve mafia, ace mafia, palmar mafia, shiaopi and clarity town / obvious misslynches, Vivax mafia when so far he had really good day 1 reads, said oats should be lynched then auto swapped away when VE who you called mafia jumped on the wagon, Rayn mafia, CC mafia, say you dont want to lynch hopeless now hes like your #1 read over the guy you tunneled all game, sylencia mafia, etc...
here I will give you a quote from your own filter you should stand by
On April 23 2013 07:36 yamato77 wrote:
Man, my play sucks this game.
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On May 07 2013 14:03 Sharrant wrote:
BC, I think the point Geript was trying to make (I was tempted to say it to, but I noticed he said it first) is that right now you seem pretty antagonistic towardsYamato.I don't think anyone is capable of pushing the lynch off him today, he could claim jailer and the lynch wouldn't budge, I guarantee.
I'm glad to see such zeal from you on this case, but he's going to die. This should be the time to ask him questions that you think you would help lead you to the remaining mafia (if he flips scum) or might shed light on other players (town). Now I severely doubt the last situation holds any weight for you, but the first certainly should.
You haven't seen me get into a full annoyance before. The guy is being an ass and antagonistic, and hes been shitting on players better than him all game. Even if I end up being horribly wrong, I respect people and he calls them bad, etc... when they have done more this game and overall and are far better players.
I still believe hopeless is mafia. The only situation I can see mafia winning at this point is some insanely desperate move. In this case yamato bussing the last member of his team like a boss. If yamato dies, its unlikely hopeless dies for awhile and thus mafia can win, or vice versa.
He has already shied away from me before trying to get him to be open about his reads, then he threatens to out blues, etc...
If hes mafia nothing he will give us at this point is beneficial. People who are still not sure of him need to read his damn filter or every case brought up on him.
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On May 07 2013 14:08 getmoript wrote:
The point that I was trying to make was that he was trying to prove to yamato that he's scum, but that's worthless. The back and forth just isn't going anywhere and isn't helping. So yah, questions should move a different direction.
read this back and forth, go read pyp3 and then come back and realize my alignment is now confirmed.
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On May 07 2013 14:10 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 14:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 14:03 Sharrant wrote:
BC, I think the point Geript was trying to make (I was tempted to say it to, but I noticed he said it first) is that right now you seem pretty antagonistic towardsYamato.I don't think anyone is capable of pushing the lynch off him today, he could claim jailer and the lynch wouldn't budge, I guarantee.
I'm glad to see such zeal from you on this case, but he's going to die. This should be the time to ask him questions that you think you would help lead you to the remaining mafia (if he flips scum) or might shed light on other players (town). Now I severely doubt the last situation holds any weight for you, but the first certainly should. You haven't seen me get into a full annoyance before. The guy is being an ass and antagonistic, and hes been shitting on players better than him all game. Even if I end up being horribly wrong, I respect people and he calls them bad, etc... when they have done more this game and overall and are far better players. I still believe hopeless is mafia. The only situation I can see mafia winning at this point is some insanely desperate move. In this case yamato bussing the last member of his team like a boss. If yamato dies, its unlikely hopeless dies for awhile and thus mafia can win, or vice versa. He has already shied away from me before trying to get him to be open about his reads, then he threatens to out blues, etc... If hes mafia nothing he will give us at this point is beneficial. People who are still not sure of him need to read his damn filter or every case brought up on him. I'VE BEEN OPEN ABOUT MY READS THE WHOLE GAME AND YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME FOR IT! DO YOU EVEN READ THE SHIT YOU TYPE?
youve been wrong the whole fucking game
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On May 07 2013 14:11 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 14:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 14:10 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 14:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 14:03 Sharrant wrote:
BC, I think the point Geript was trying to make (I was tempted to say it to, but I noticed he said it first) is that right now you seem pretty antagonistic towardsYamato.I don't think anyone is capable of pushing the lynch off him today, he could claim jailer and the lynch wouldn't budge, I guarantee.
I'm glad to see such zeal from you on this case, but he's going to die. This should be the time to ask him questions that you think you would help lead you to the remaining mafia (if he flips scum) or might shed light on other players (town). Now I severely doubt the last situation holds any weight for you, but the first certainly should. You haven't seen me get into a full annoyance before. The guy is being an ass and antagonistic, and hes been shitting on players better than him all game. Even if I end up being horribly wrong, I respect people and he calls them bad, etc... when they have done more this game and overall and are far better players. I still believe hopeless is mafia. The only situation I can see mafia winning at this point is some insanely desperate move. In this case yamato bussing the last member of his team like a boss. If yamato dies, its unlikely hopeless dies for awhile and thus mafia can win, or vice versa. He has already shied away from me before trying to get him to be open about his reads, then he threatens to out blues, etc... If hes mafia nothing he will give us at this point is beneficial. People who are still not sure of him need to read his damn filter or every case brought up on him. I'VE BEEN OPEN ABOUT MY READS THE WHOLE GAME AND YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME FOR IT! DO YOU EVEN READ THE SHIT YOU TYPE? youve been wrong the whole fucking game So have you. Good fucking game.
Yes
Ve town
Ace 3p
clarity mafia
shiao mafia
Yep im wrong.
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On May 07 2013 16:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Oh what I did want to bring up was that Yamato claimed to know who he thought the JK was. There's no reason for him to bring that up if he's scum, it felt like a genuine passing comment, and one I don't think he would've made if he were scum. Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 03:02 yamato77 wrote:
Oh, and I'm certain that there is a town JK, and I'm fairly sure I know who he is. /working 4realz
why? This is null to scum tell. Town has no real reason to look for the jk. Figuring out who it is they might do, but have no reason for ever saying so in thread as merely saying it could lead to mafia going "shit breadcrumbs are there"
only a mafia has reason to say it. Then if they dont hit said jk you can pull the "obviously im not mafia cause i know who the jk is"
seriously this is a terrible reason to defend someone artanis
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On May 07 2013 16:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 16:28 yamato77 wrote:
Any comment on today's bullshit, Artanis? BC tunneling you, not much surprise there. Don't actually have much time atm, will comment more after work. Will policy lynch anyone that hammers you before I get the chance to comment.
Also I am not the only one who wants him lynched. Sharrant, myself, Palmar theravensname.
obviously we can't all be tunneling.
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just finished catching up on the thread now. Sorry for inactivity was at the gfs since tuesday and only accessed my phone to check TL once in that time.
I was masoned by TRN this cycle.
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On May 10 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can we list off TRN's Mason targets in order just so I have a little contextx when filter diving?
Palmar, yamato, me, BC, who else and on which nights?
I asked him for this info in the mason qt. Still waiting on a response.
I think it went, Palmar, yamato, you, sharrant, me
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Also, Filter diving at the moment, Kush looks exceptionally horrible at the moment.
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On May 08 2013 22:26 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If we're going to policy lynch anyone it'll be you, kush. yeah i deserve it no doubt, but at least the policy lynch on palmar has a chance of hitting scum here is the lynch order imo 1 hopeless 2 palmar (half policy lynch because he annoys me/half scum lynch) 3 BC
On May 08 2013 08:20 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 07:08 kushm4sta wrote:
it was lolz to kill him though because yamato was the towniest person in this game.
On May 08 2013 00:58 kushm4sta wrote:
we can lynch bc tomorrow when yamato flips town
On May 07 2013 13:02 kushm4sta wrote:
i think town is making a huge mistake lynching yamato
(inb4 omg town in 3rd person scumslip1!!!!)
but I dont mind it actually because I am so horny for flips. It's like when you haven't had sex in 2 years and you will have sex with anyone just to have it. exactly like that.
On May 06 2013 10:28 kushm4sta wrote:
Can we lynch bc now though? I wanna see a flip.
These are just some of his posts he makes this game about shit. There is no justification on why to lynch who he wants and they are really not in any way I can see it town. He wants to lynch people for flips? Its actively not giving a shit about player alignment, just getting lynches over with and the flips done. Says someone is 100% townie? still votes for them because why not? Then tries to get someone lynched because of push made for that lynch. No way in hell can the guy be town off that. However there is more
On May 02 2013 05:42 kushm4sta wrote:
I want to lynch yamato because he soft defended shiaopi and clarity. too much of a coincidence imo. i already posted the quote 2 times.
plus there are a ton of other reasons other people have posted.
yamato...lurker doesn't make you scum. Town easily can lurk for a million different reasons and I was doing it myself for the middle part of this game.
Your case against hopeless..i do not find it convincing in the least.
Keep in mind this is 8 days ago, however. He calls yamato scum for soft defending (he calls yamato town for no reason a few days later) he also says he doesn't agree with the hopeless case, but hes been pushing hopeless for days.
Lets keep going shall we
On May 01 2013 08:30 kushm4sta wrote:
i wish the player list was updated so i knew who is even still in the game
Not even reading the game. Not the only instance of a post like this
On April 25 2013 14:52 kushm4sta wrote:hi ace. you aren't town this game so i'm not listening to your suggestions and nor should anyone else. VE is town. He is town from his first post in the game. Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
THANKS FOR MAKING ME HAVE TO READ THE DAMNED OP BH THAT WAS COOL OF YOU NOT
Sup guys I'm here and I'm very town. So whazzup? only town would complain about having to read the op (because the role names weren't colored) I am gonna vote for shiaopi. I don't want to go for clarity because now Ace is pushing it. A very similar thing happened yesterday. Yamato was the popular lynch, then Ace pushed Oats, claiming the case on Oats was really good (even though in retrospect it sucked).
On April 26 2013 07:17 kushm4sta wrote:
Hmmm I agree with VE and BC that Palmar is useless and scummy. Only thing that gives me reservations is his roleblock but now that BC says he was roleblocked, that opens up new possibilities.
Palmar's tunnel on VE makes ZERO sense and Palmar is unwilling to explain.
##vote palmar
On April 27 2013 13:47 kushm4sta wrote:
so who we lynching now? palmar still or what?
On April 27 2013 22:18 kushm4sta wrote:
just read dome shit in the thread. palmer lynch looks really bad.
clarity lynch looks good.
unvote
vote clarity
On April 28 2013 06:47 kushm4sta wrote:
palmar convinced me to vote clarity!
In the span of 5 posts he says he wont vote clarity because ace is pushing it. He says he finds palmar useless and scummy and that he wants to lynch palmar. He then realizes clarity wagon is picking up, jumps on board and says "palmar lynch looks bad, clarity looks good and palmar convinced me to vote clarity"
His top scum read who he wants to kill and a guy he says isn't town this game say "lets kill clarity" and he just jumps on board with no explanation whatsoever. This is something a mafia would do if his teammate is dying to buy cred. Townie has no reason to behave like this.
On April 30 2013 09:37 kushm4sta wrote:
I will not vote for shiaopi or cc ever. I think they are both town.
On April 30 2013 10:11 kushm4sta wrote:
eh ill vote shiao if he got a red check
See this?
He outright says he will not vote to lynch shiaopi ever, or cc (flipped town) then says will only vote shiaopi if there is a dt check. Why would a townie require a dt check to lynch mafia? If a case is good enough its good enough. More importantly, he suspected yamato in this post
On May 01 2013 10:56 kushm4sta wrote:yamato your one claim to towniness is pushing shiaopi d2. But the other wagon was clarity. So in reality you were just picking between 2 scum. scum literally had to bus. Also that quote from earlier in which you explicitly soft defend 2 known scum. here it is again: Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 00:35 yamato77 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The reason I'm running through all this is that I'm not particularly happy with any of the lynches that most of town is talking about. VE of yesterday feels somewhat town. I feel like more time would only bury scum VE or give chance to solidify a town read on VE. There's absolutely no rush for his lynch to be finalized.
Shaio is easy to mislynch, as evidenced by the suspicion on him in day 2 of British Empire 1, also an instant lynch where he was lurkish, and eventually replaced. The worst part of his filter is the hammer sequence, but even that could be explained by overly eager town who got caught up in the game emotionally.
Clarity is always inactive, and him being fixated on Sharrant is not alignment indicative. His case is objectively something that scum like to do, but in the context of the game, I can see a town Clarity who had a late start feeling the need to get his thoughts about the game on the table, even if they weren't about the main lynch candidates. The fact that he basically has no other reads in the game is a point in his favor, but just like VE, we can afford to play a waiting game with him, seeing as we have unlimited time.
At the very least, we need real discussion about the alignments of Ace/BC/Palmar before we move forward with any lynch. Ace is the most town out of the three, and BC the least, in my eyes. I'd say a long day is in order, and town need to consolidate pressure upon just a few people so that we can determine their alignments more clearly. that's why i want to lynch you now
You know what? A guy who is completely hypocritical by suspecting someone for the same behaviour you are guilty of is something I rarely see in the hands of town. This is something mafia does as its an "easy" reason to suspect someone as it looks like a scum slip. If you are not guilty of the same behaviour I can see someone using it as a reason to lynch you, but given that kush is guilty of defending / outright saying he wouldn't vote for the two confirmed mafia for reasons and then finding an excuse to vote for clarity (following his top scum read / voting for a person another of someone he called not town) is fishy, and only saying he will vote for another if a dt check is on the guy is also weird as hell.
He actively says he doesn't find yamatos case on hopeless convincing he also openly says
On May 02 2013 05:44 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry to double post, but I want to add something about hopeless..
every single game i played with the guy, I wanted to lynch him. He always looks like this.
this says nothing about hopeless alignment, only about how kush likes lynching him.
However when you realize that he has been pushing yamato as scum all game, and actively says he disagrees with yamato's case/read and then just says "Hopeless always looks like this" saying his behaviour is not alignment indicator. Given that then him saying he thought hopeless was scum all game (hypocritical given that he didn't want to lynch this high end scum suspect, nor does he ever push it before this point) I would say he is likely mafia. He jumps on thread sentiment like mad and never pushes his own views. Guy cannot be town.
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and off to work i go, be back in like 6-7 hours
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On May 10 2013 06:07 kushm4sta wrote:dat triple post Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 05:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
He jumps on thread sentiment like mad and never pushes his own views. Guy cannot be town. Funny, because I am town and you probably know that. As I have explained many times before, I was not reading in the middle of game at all. I was very aware that my opinion was uninformed and incredibly shitty. I had no idea what was going on with prs, roleblocks, masons, etc. So it only made sense for me to jump on thread sentiment.
No it didnt. If you aren't reading the damn thread, say you havent read it and throw your vote completely elsewhere so it doesn't hurt town in any way. A mafia benefits from this line of thinking, no town should be guilty of it.
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On May 10 2013 11:39 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
No it didnt. If you aren't reading the damn thread, say you havent read it and throw your vote completely elsewhere so it doesn't hurt town in any way. A mafia benefits from this line of thinking, no town should be guilty of it. It doesn't hurt town to sheep the correct wagon. ALSO you say no town should be guilty of it, but you are experienced and you know that town often is guilty of it. I dont understand how my suboptimal play translates into me being scum. Your case against me was just pointing out how bad I am basically.
Incorrect. You proved to be hypocritical, you 180 your opinions for no reason, you want to lynch people just for flips and not to kill scum.
If you honestly do this as town, never fucking play again.
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On May 10 2013 11:57 kushm4sta wrote:
if you are town you are bad at finding scum. which you aren't so you aren't.
make a case yo.
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On May 11 2013 02:45 Palmar wrote:
The reason didn't push clarity was that at the time I didn't want to be a big factor in town, I was trying to survive to get some checks. If I push and lynch clarity day 1 I would definitely get shot. Now I still think I did get shot and that sharrant saved me, but that's another story.
I have an issue with this specifically Palmar. You said you didn't want to be a big factor and wanted to survive, yet by claiming your first check on me knowing sanities aren't confirmed you made yourself "big factor" in the town. I know you thought/think I am mafia, but given the potential chance for you to be bungling up a lynch + wanting to survive for multiple checks it seems odd that you'd insta claim the way you did.
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