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Keirathi
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On April 11 2013 15:57 geript wrote: Vanilla Townie Okay. I was thinking about my analysis on MZ earlier, and how I think that scum losing an inactive NRA would have been a better outcome than losing an active Assassin. So I was reading through the passage again, and I had thought that you outing VE as NRA came before the gonzaw case. But it came after, which makes me a bit suspicious. I'll think about it while I sleep. G'nite. | ||
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Keirathi
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Yea, no way me+austin+S&B are all alignment cops. I'll go first: NKVD | ||
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They are literally the only people left that I don't have solid reasons why they are town. | ||
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On April 12 2013 01:52 austinmcc wrote: You like vivax for scum? Also on my list...mocsta. Yea, I think Vivax is quite possibly scum. As far as Mocsta....meh. I wouldn't be *SUPER* surprised if he's scum, but I've had a town read on him the entire game. He's playing like I normally see him play as town; loud, abrasive, arguing all the wrong things, but (seemingly) genuinely thinking about the game in his own weird way. | ||
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On April 12 2013 02:02 Vivax wrote: Keirathi spit out a case on me or fuck off, thanks. Don't need you joining the most silent bandwagon in the thread where people say "Vivax scum just because", that's sketchy as shit. It's partly process of elimination, partly the convenient roleclaim, partly your interactions VE, and partly how hard you tried to wheedle sn0's role out of him. I just don't see much in your filter that I directly contribute to town. Maybe you are, maybe you aren't, but like I said, you're one of the last 3 people I don't have solid reasons for thinking that they are town. | ||
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Keirathi
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My problem with your narrative is that I think if scum could have gotten the lynch switched over to VE, then Artanis may have actually looked better today with a scum already flipped. AND they would still have a direct use KP. Maybe Artanis would have still gotten lynched today, but he almost certainly would have gotten another shot off too. I just think it would have been in scum's best interest to start pushing towards VE rather than Artanis. | ||
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On April 12 2013 02:32 austinmcc wrote: I would have been convinced that someone would shoot/check artanis overnight. At the very least, even if someone does something to VE to confirm him being NRA, it means an additional townie kill, whether he gets lynched D2 or not. Someone visiting VE overnight much better for scum than someone visiting Artanis, no matter whether they're visiting with a bullet or a check. The problem is that VE was already outed as quite possibly NRA. No one would have visited him. It would have been beyond dumb. I know that even if VE hadn't been lynched, I sure as hell wouldn't have checked him. For all intents and purposes, he was useless to the scum team with his role outed. And, if someone visited Artanis with a check instead of a shot, then he still has time during the day today to shoot someone. As long as he does it before he gets day-vigged. Geript had already claimed VT, RO had claimed framer, and its possible scum drafted a role cop too. He would have just needed to shoot as soon as the day started, and he was already more useful alive than VE would have been. | ||
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On April 12 2013 02:34 yamato77 wrote: Not to sound too impulsive, but if you want to shoot, make it between him and BM. One of them is almost certainly mafia, I feel, if not both. What the actual fuck? How can BM be scum if he picked JV? Which you also supposedly picked, but got VT? If he flips scum, you 100% die tomorrow for lying. | ||
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On April 12 2013 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote: Anybody who died N1 could be JV... (okay probably not caller) Not decon either. He was either the Janitor like he claimed, or he was scum and knew who the Janitor was. Rayn: unlikely pick at #2. Palmar: maybe. I doubt it, but its a possibility. I honestly think Palmar was Emperor. | ||
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On April 12 2013 02:45 austinmcc wrote: KEIRATHI WHY ARE WE NOT MIND-MELDED ON MOCSTA. AND WHY DID MZ SHOOT ME IN THE FAAAAAAAAAAAACE. :o It was a poor shot, and I was extremely saddened. | ||
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He has a green check. I had a pretty strong town read on him even before the town check. I would bet my left nut that he's town. Stop it. | ||
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Meh, I still just can't think of Mocsta as scum in this game. I just played with scum Mocsta in Hydra, and he doesn't really "feel" the same at all. A slim possibility of scum, but I think he's town. | ||
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On April 12 2013 03:12 Vivax wrote: I don't care about mocsta either way. OO best lynch, he scum tryin to look good with his cases but no interest whatsoever in pursuing what he claims to believe. I basically agree with this. We lynch OO and Sharrant today. Everything that I've talked to OO personally about in the last few weeks has been trying to improve his game to be a better player. You can see the effort towards that front in Red Team. None (or I guess, very little) similar effort here. On April 12 2013 03:15 yamato77 wrote: How the fuck do I know what he picked? I do have a theory that would implicate one or the other, but that would require them both cooperating with the role-claim plan that's not happening. He's been soft-claiming JV since the early part of the day. And if someone else is JV, why didn't they counter the soft claim? Who did they shoot last night? Etc. On April 12 2013 03:17 austinmcc wrote: What do you mean by this, and by your comment about Ego or whatever? If you played differently in Ego than another scum game of yours, that supports the idea that there is no single way that a player plays scum --> i.e. scumMocsta is not necessarily passive mocsta. Also, what is this number of games thing? As best I can tell, mocsta played...one game in between those two at most? It's okay to look at game x but not a game that's two games behind x? It's okay to look at someone's MOST recent scumgame, but not their second most recent? I think what Oats is getting at is that Mocsta's playstyle has evolved a bit the more that he's played. Not just as scum, but the more he plays in general. Although I do agree with you that scum Mocsta is perfectly capable of playing an outspoken/abrasive scum game. I just don't think that THIS is that game. Also: fkn thunderstorms knocking my power out repeatedly while I'm trying to post....FU. | ||
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On April 12 2013 03:22 Vivax wrote: ##Nuke: Player. You must nuke 12 hours or more before day ends. Nukes land at the end of the day. Feel free to launch your first nuke without any warning. I'm pretty sure the bolded part is in there because in some other game, someone used a nuke like 10 seconds into day 1 and people were pretty upset about it. I think that part isn't saying that the nuke is "silent" or "stealth" or whatever, just that you don't have to fear mod action is you use it silly. | ||
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On April 12 2013 03:38 yamato77 wrote: LET'S LYNCH MEAPAK No. | ||
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He's not a threat today. He's not a threat tonight. If he uses his nuke again tomorrow, kill him then. Or hell, someone kill him tonight. He's not a better lynch than OO or Sharrant, though. | ||
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So, if BM is JV, he has to shoot tonight. He'll either hit scum, or die. If he's alive tomorrow with no scum dead, then he's probably scum, and then either one of rayn/palmar was JV and the other was emperor, or yam was lying and is scum too. | ||
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On April 12 2013 05:32 strongandbig wrote: actually you're kind of right - claiming "i'm one of these roles" is pretty scummy since it gives him outs if people claim some of those roles later. He also said he breadcrumbed it. I mean, maybe he breadcrumbed all 3, but it at least gives some credence to the fact that he was thinking about it before the mass-claim plan started. | ||
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