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Keirathi
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sinani206: you are being called in for questioning about your links tot he mafia syndicate. You shall be subject to a thorough Lie Detector Test. Remember, only answer using a simple Yes or No. Question 1: On April 07 2013 05:22 sinani206 wrote: VE are you going to take this game seriously or not? Because if you aren't, I have no qualms with lynching you. Is this the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? "Yes" Question 2: On April 07 2013 14:48 sinani206 wrote: VisceraEyes: I was leaning scum before and he hasn't really done anything to change my mind besides participating a little bit more. To be on the safe side, I'll say null with a red tinge. Was this a scumslip? In that you had to play it safe because you didn't want to look bad after you knew VE would flip scum? "No." Question 3: On April 08 2013 06:46 sinani206 wrote: gonzaw are you going to claim exactly what your role is? Was this an attempt to rolefish so that your scumbuddy, Mr. Artanis the Assassin, could kill gonzaw? "No." Question 4: On April 10 2013 11:43 sinani206 wrote: K this numbered shit is dumb. I could see MZ just as having messed up, but that was a really, REALLY stupid nuke. With a double lynch, I guess we could kill him and someone else, but I'd prefer to actually try to kill scum. This quote seems to indicate that you KNOW that one Mr. Meapak_Ziphh is town, rather than just suspect. Is that true? "No." Question 5: On April 10 2013 11:49 sinani206 wrote: Not really worth the anti-nuke, tbh. This seems to indicate at the time that you felt that Mr. Austin wasn't worth saving, despite the green check. Is that because you are scum and therefore scared of Mr. Austin? "No". Very well, sinani206. Sit tight. We'll have the results soon. ![[image loading]](http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/07-10-10images/lie_detection_02.jpg) BEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOP Well, well, well. Looks like we have some results. So how do you think you did Mr. Sinani? "I am telling the truth." We'll see about that. Let's take a look at your chart, eh? ![[image loading]](https://antipolygraph.org/graphics/chart-sample-01.jpg) Steady, rhymic pulse. Normal perspiration. All-in-all, it does look like you are telling the truth. Very well, my Sinani, you may go. Thanks for your time. VERDICT: INNOCENT (Yes, that means he's town) + Show Spoiler [Explanation] + Sorry, all this was just RP for funsies. The Lie Detector isn't really a Lie Detector at all. It's just a day DT check, with a few conditionals. It could only be used on the person leading the vote count, and it could only be used if that person had at least 5 votes. I decided to check sinani since he's borderline unreadable, and doing it now gives the thread plenty of time to discuss an alternate candidate if he is town. If he's scum, then awesome. ##Unvote: sinani206 | ||
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ObviousOne strongandbig Sharrant Vivax Any lynch outside of these 4 today is a waste, IMO. I'm leaning towards Sharrant and Vivax right now. | ||
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We know that VE was NRA, and Artanis was Assassin. It would make a lot of sense for scum to come in and vote VE, who wasn't doing anything, to try to save their assassin since it's one of the stronger roles in the game and some direct KP. That in itself is not enough reason for a vote, but its an interesting perspective on the possibility of a bus. | ||
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On April 11 2013 08:34 Mocsta wrote: Kei What do u make of snb and his fake invention post? Do u think he gave u the lie detector? Is that action in itself enough to consider him town? I don't think so personally I doubt very seriously that Inventor fell to #7 in the draft. I think S&B was just having fun. | ||
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On April 11 2013 08:29 geript wrote: Again... 'confirmed' scum Caller (2-3-4 same as S&B), VE (10), Artanis (11). I think Austin, Sn0 and RO are very interesting. I highly doubt at this point that scum paired up on numbers. Again: do you think that I am scum? | ||
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EBWOP: And anyways, that makes your plan fall apart. If I am scum and calling Austin town, then that means that Austin and I both picked 8 together as scum. Stop it with your conspiracy theories. Austin is (most likely) town because of my check. Sn0 is most likely town because of austin's check and my analysis of him before the check was made public. | ||
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On April 11 2013 08:50 Vivax wrote: Imo the invention is fake or has been created by scum, and the result is unreliable. From the OP: You can't give yourself anything, and you must tell me how your invention works so I can PM the other player (you cannot trick them to how the invention works). So you can choose not to believe me if you want, but the check is legit. On April 11 2013 08:50 Vivax wrote: The inventor's choice to give it to keirathi rather than someone like geript who played a huge role during D1's lynches makes it questionable. + Show Spoiler + Lie detectors don't exist, they're just used by psychologists to trick people. On another note, there's nothing stopping Keirathi from fakeclaiming a correct (?) DT check on the almost dead austin, and it happened right around the time where MZ shot the nuke. Keirathi actually claimed at this time 11:24 and this time 11:26, and MZ shot during 11:27. Do you see any purpose in Keirathi not playing like a smart cop and blowing up his cover to say austin is town, rather than wait to see if he's even getting lynched during the day? I don't, I think there's a decent chance this might be scum powerplay. Yes, it is possible that I am making a powerplay in conjunction with sinani and Meapak. Honestly anyone who isn't looking at my play critically is just not putting in their due dilligence; I was wrong about artanis, and indecisive about VE. I've played quite poorly in that regard. My check and claim on austin was not a poor decision though. I made it quite clear that austin was my top suspect towards the end of the night. If I came in and started defending austin after the day post, it would have been effectively the same thing as a claim. And besides, austin is a major thread presence, and I wanted people to be able to look at his thoughts and opinions as genuine. | ||
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On April 11 2013 10:01 geript wrote: we should make this a single lynch by everyone putting one vote on Austin Why? | ||
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On April 11 2013 10:53 geript wrote: Sharrant not likely scum. Shelvocke not likely scum. OO not likely scum. MZ is a big ?? Best lynch of those 4. Why not OO? You seem to be overly reliant on this "scum didn't double pick" heuristic. OO didn't double pick with anyone as far as I can tell. Earlier you said "There are likely exactly 2 scum within the people who picked 1-5", which includes OO, except you never talked about him again. | ||
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On April 11 2013 11:06 geript wrote: Caller and Sinani pushed OO iirc as an alternate lynch D1. Why do you care who sinani pushed? | ||
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On April 11 2013 11:25 Vivax wrote: Wait why was Caller scum? Sorry but it seems like I missed something and reading thread 2 hard. Bill Murray claimed Justice Vig, and that he shot Caller last night. BM is still alive today, and Caller is dead. Yamato claimed that he tried to pick JV too, but got vanilla. | ||
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On April 11 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote: ninja'ed by geript. i am being misrepresented here. i don't want to quote the person who I'm talking about in between pages 129 and now, however Wait, are you saying you aren't Justice Vig? | ||
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There are a few weird things in his filter: On April 06 2013 00:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: For the record I'm not a fan of anybody with kp just blowing shit up as they please, however what I'm saying is that hitting a townie as a vig by itself is not enough to just kill someone. People are stupid and townies make mistakes. Obviously scum can say they made a mistake but if they're scum then that vig shot won't be the only thing they've done wrong. Why did he tell people not to just blow shit up, then proceed to blow shit up without any discussion? However, the rest of the post isn't alignment indicative. On April 07 2013 09:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: VE: holy crap how many times have I seen VE mislynched for doing almost exactly the same thing. His more recent posts about not caring about the game are like textbook VE. Yes I will concede, there is a very good case on him, but you all need to understand my own personal history with VE: I've been that guy who railroaded a d1 lynch against town VE before and I can tell you, it's really easy. idk what it is about VE but he's like the biggest lynch bait currently playing. . An odd defense of VE in hindsight, but I can see a townie making this post too. Minorly scummy. And the strangest thing is his reaction to Shelvocke "shooting" him. He seemed quite repentant after the nuke, but once Shelvocke used the ##Shoot: Meapak, MZ seemed to be...almost happy that he was dying. On April 10 2013 12:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh good shevlocke gonna put me out of my misery Why? Demoralized scum after 2 (or 3 or 4) of his teammates are dead? Or town who just realized he dun goofed and felt bad? Then there are the things that point towards town: On April 08 2013 01:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Gonzaw <3 I had forgotten about Artanis/hadn't felt like I had enough evidence to go after him. That part that really rang a bell for me was that He's made a few posts that are like three paragraphs long so they look like a solid post but in fact don't say anything... my dear old friend CWC (contributing without contributing) doing work. I'd like more people to comment on my shevlocke case which, while I feel it is weaker than the artanis case, is my number two suspect. I also feel that vivax is scummy, however he's like number three on my list. Two people I want opinions on are Strongandbig and sharrant. Not sure what to make of either of them atm. This is one of his weaker "townie" posts. He calls Artanis his top read because of how good gonzaw's case is, but still trying to get opinions on other people and not trying very hard to push Artanis. On April 08 2013 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I actually am starting to feel this might be the case. My previous read on VE was based on the activity level and contributions at the time I had read the thread. Now it's been uncharacteristically long since I've seen him in the thread and like Palmar says, VE is more likely to be scum when he isn't here as much. VE I'm gonna need some good quality reads out of you as well as some serious contribution or I'm gonna start thinking you don't care. And if you don't care then you're scum. On April 08 2013 13:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: we can wifom what scum want us to think by the gonzaw kill from here till kingdom come but we won't get anywhere. Ultimately we need to stick with artanis as he has been consistently scummy and pushed by a now confirmed townie. @Yamato. I'm really tired with you calling me scum and never backing it up, come up with some reasons or shut up. The first post on its own is kind of meh, but combined with the second post, this is where I get most of my townie read on MZ. Between VE being NRA but doing absolutely nothing, and Artanis being Assassin and getting a gonzaw kill and starting to participate more, I truly think scum were probably pushing for VE over Artanis. I just think an active assassin was probably stronger than NRA, especially since VE had already been partly outed by geript even before gonzaw was killed. Look at how hard the wagon starts swinging to VE once Caller says that he is killing Artanis. I just think that it's unlikely that a scum MZ would be pushing a scum Artanis over a scum VE in this specific situation. I honestly think its more likely that he is town than scum. | ||
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On April 11 2013 14:01 yamato77 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&user=286833 ALSO That link there is a fresh mafia filter from our friendly neighborhood Oatsmaster. Who thinks it's full of good information about his scum meta? I DO! Might be worth lynching him with Meapak. Meh, Oats is Recruiting Mason. That's an extremely weak scum pick in this situation, IMO. I'm not interested in lynching Oats. | ||
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On April 11 2013 14:34 Mocsta wrote: Kei The last bit of the mz analysis Where u say scum prefer ve over art for lynch Implicates snb heavily As town he isnt scared to make early cases. E.g. Personality2 with his case 8hrs in on oatsmaster. And he stands by his cases. Here he has done.nothing. And went.aboard at a very opportune time. I realize that it implicates S&B. Notice how I have S&B in my "We should be lynching into these 4 people" list after I checked sinani? :o | ||
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On April 11 2013 14:48 geript wrote: Why check Sinani instead of Sharrant? A couple of intertwined reasons. First, I could only check people who had at least 5 votes, AND they highest number of votes. Arranging it onto Sharrant without explaining the item before I used it would have been difficult. Secondly, Sharrant, while not posting a lot, at least comes around and writes up large posts. He has a decent amount of material to read through to get an opinion about. He answers questions and (seemingly) keeps up with the thread. Sinani, on the other hand....just does whatever the hell it is that sinani does. Most of his filter is a random tunnel on BM. The points that we brought up that made him scummy were never addressed, and the only things pointing towards him being town were WIFOM arguments from scum who have flipped. He was just more unreadable. | ||
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I want to ask you a question. As soon as you reply to this post, I will post the question. You have exactly 2 minutes to answer it, or I will push for your lynch or shot with everything that I have. Please reply when ready. | ||
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