On April 14 2013 04:49 Keirathi wrote:
RO can't frame himself.

But the better question is, who is he using his frames on? Just not using them? Why not at least throw one on his teammate BillMurray? I mean, no one said we were checking BM; I kinda just made that decision at the last minute because BM wasn't cooperating and said he was "fishing for reactions".

RO being scum is not impossible, but RO being scum AND framer seems quite unlikely.

oh i didnt realize that he couldnt frame himself.

well who do you think we should lynch today?

It's a toss up between you and Vivax, with you leading right now.

So, who do YOU want to lynch today? You haven't said. Well, I guess you said that we should lynch dandel, but only because you think he is framer. What about his play? What about anyone else?

On April 14 2013 13:42 geript wrote:
I don't understand why Keirathi is getting a free pass here. He himself said multiple times IIRC that BM's role would reveal itself regardless and had no need for investigation. There was literally 0 reason to check him. Checking Micsta, Vivax, RO or S&B were his best options clearly. I really wish I had thought more and tossed it at Keirathi instead. Why is he not being looked at whatsoever?

I'll explain. Yes, his role was self-confirming if he was town AND he was compulsive, or if he was town and not compulsive but agreed to shoot a specific target for us and "take one for the team". If he wasn't using his ability in any way we could track, then how was he self-confirming?

He claimed that he wasn't compulsive anymore. I dunno about you, but I don't think that's entirely out of the realm of possibilities for a theme bonus. And if he's not compulsive, then him being alive doesn't mean anything. He would have just been this big question mark until someone checked him or we just lynched him anyways. Better to be sure, IMO.

As for the bolded: you have no idea how much I wish you had to.

you asked me who i want to lynch. i'm not sure.

based on the outing of VE as nra member, i think geript is town. based on role choice I think oatsmaster is town. Sinani, mocsta, and yamato all have green checks. vivax, you and me are all DTs and i still believe that lynching a DT doesn't make sense when we could be checking each other and others. That leaves Shelvocke and RO. So I want to lynch one of them.

i think it's actually pretty likely shelvocke is a traitor, especially if it's actually Ace. My point about him not knowing that DT was already taken was apparently incorrect, and that was the only reason I wasn't considering him the most likely traitor.

So at the moment I think I most want to lynch Shelvocke.

But I still wouldn't object to killing RO either.

anyway ##unvote
##vote: shelvocke

strongandbig

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April 14 2013 22:24 GMT

#3565

On April 15 2013 07:08 Restraining Order wrote:
The most important lynch today is snb.

Dunno if sinani is even here to make it a doublelynch, so you should consider moving your vote to him.

Actually, I just noticed we should probably not even double-lynch, since Oats is fully cruising for modkill.

Let's lynch snb only.

why not check me

this is pretty stupid

strongandbig

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April 14 2013 22:25 GMT

#3566

On April 15 2013 04:02 Keirathi wrote:
Lynching for a traitor is dumb. We dont' know that there's a traitor or not.

Lynch for scum. If we kill 5, and the game is still going, THEN worry about it.

we also don't know if there are 4 or 5 scum left

imo it's just as likely that there's a traitor left as it is that there's a scum left

strongandbig

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April 14 2013 22:26 GMT

#3567

like before we start lynching into our DTs we should at least make sure we've checked everyone

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 00:07 GMT

#3580

On April 15 2013 09:05 Mocsta wrote:
I dont think oats is getting modkilled.

He made a post about 28hrs ago.

I cant believe we are in such a situation.

Geript is fixated on Keirathi

Oats is missing in action

Yam does nothing, but expects everyone to sheep him

SnB/Vivax are just butt fucking each other

Shevlocke my good I just want to lynch him for doing nothing ALL game.

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Just do SnB at this point in the game, he stil wants to lynch Shelvocke

and wants RO gone, when i already explained that VE/art trying to nail RO early game, indicates RO is confirmed town.

Ppl get confused witht he use of 'bus".. bus is intention to lynch... whereas ppl are actually thinking of 'distancing"

you dont understand the word "confirmed"

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 01:39 GMT

#3595

alright, whatever. if you guys manage to somehow fuck this up i'ma be super pissed off.

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:14 GMT

#3597

i thought deadline was by now... is it not for another 40 minutes?

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:21 GMT

#3599

okay.

when i flip town what are you gonna do next?

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:33 GMT

#3602

i already went into that. checks tonight should be on oatsmaster, RO, and me. (but you guys are being stupid).

I think you all are morons for lynching me; sure, if you guess correctly and i'm scum, then we can end the game a bit faster, but the safe way for town to play is to keep all the dts alive until we can check everyone. the fact that all you impulsive morons (geript, mocsta, vivax, etc) don't see this makes perfect sense to me, but the fact that keirathi doesn't see the sense in this worries me.

scum is staying in the game despite the fact that we have three DTs. That's what makes me think there may be a traitor left. Which leads me to a question for BC:
if the only anti-town player remaining is a traitor, do they inherit the scum factional KP?
I expect the answer to this question to be "no" but it should be asked anyway.
I don't think there can be another player who has a "godfather bonus" in addition to a normal role. That would just be beyond ridiculous; far too much meddling in the roles imo. Already the change in the dreamflower role strikes me as kind of ridiculous and not something I thought BC would do, but that's a matter for post game discussion.

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:34 GMT

#3603

On April 15 2013 11:25 geript wrote:
Eg who are your top 3 scum reads in order and why

like, i'm not gonna go back and read the thread and make cases now. whoever the last scum is, they've clearly done a good job of blending in if i'm getting lynched. Unless the setup is even more twisted from what we were led to believe, the best way to win this game is using mechanics.

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:56 GMT

#3627

you guys are all idiots. seriously.

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:56 GMT

#3630

for one thing, sinani's rigging the vote anyway. he could esaily change things.

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:58 GMT

#3633

yeah geript really makes the game un fun

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 02:58 GMT

#3634

On April 15 2013 11:57 Mocsta wrote:
im playing sc2. gimme a fucking break snb

u done nothing all game, and now act all high n mighty

what ive done all game is not be a retard

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 03:00 GMT

#3639

On April 15 2013 11:59 Restraining Order wrote:

Show nested quote +

no you have not. not at all.

no u

strongandbig

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April 15 2013 04:14 GMT

#3681

you all are retards

SnB OUT

also why isnt my flip green

strongandbig

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April 18 2013 04:43 GMT

#4072

On April 18 2013 12:52 gonzaw wrote:
Dammit BC why did you have to babysit scum all over the role picking phase?

Should have made the information about the "character bonus" thing public (like "Gangster"="More KP stuff for role X Y and Z", etc)
I had no idea Gangster DIDNT have any synergy with Jack (considering it has 2 KP), or what synergy other roles had (like BM's for instance, which was the most important one)

yeah this was kind of ridiculous, scum had so much more information about the setup than town did... but it's a pyp game ->open setup :/