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On April 06 2013 03:44 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 03:40 yamato77 wrote: I told you why I want to kill him, why do you seem resistant? Is there some redeeming quality to Meapak that makes him not the best choice for lynch tomorrow?
For one, OO has posted about 3x as much stuff as MZ so far. I liked this post from his: Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On April 05 2013 10:10 gonzaw wrote:On April 05 2013 06:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On April 05 2013 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: 3 scum reads:
Caller, RO, Oats. Why On April 05 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote: this whole discussion is stupid until we get the drafting list btw yes Gonzaw would you mind telling me what you think of oats, artanis, sharrant, and decondou? Would like to hear someone else's thoughts. Yo how about YOU tell me what you think of them? You can't force the wise man to do your bidding, he forces you to do his, and then enlightens you or punishes you accordingly  I have to agree with yamato on Oats. Makes little sense for scum Oats to "intentionally disrupt" town like this in the drafting phase for no reason (if he's scum), rather than doing so when it matters to them: The Day phase. No reason to call him scum right now, wait until the game actually "matters" to state so. So you 5 guys are you sending the 1-5 draft choices? If so it may be better to claim so you don't clash between each other, and so you can convince other people not to take those as well (I already changed my number). I guess it's too late though, meh. I initially had a pretty bad feeling about oats, however he's just been too loud for me to think he's scum at this point. I'm rather suspicious of artanis, I actually wanted an opinion on sharrant because I have him as a complete null, and decondou was a red herring which I threw out on a whim. In hindsight you'd be too smart to go for it as scum anyway  currently I have rayn as probable town since I've learned that the most annoying people tend to be town. That being said, I also really don't think RO is scummy. Also for the record, I'm not trying to force a wise man to do my bidding, just wanna check in with someone who completely played me before :D I like some of his reactions and interactions with other players. He seems to not "try" (i.e post giant walls of text discussing shit), but it does feel he cares when he posts, which I think he wouldn't at this stage as scum (and would play more like Palmar/VE/maybe decuondo for now). ObviousOne has passed the "Fluff and Filler!" 101 class with honors, and seems to continue to excel in the course Example of fluff: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766¤tpage=32#628Example of out of place attempt to scumhunt which seems "obviously" pointless pressure the more you think about it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766¤tpage=35#695 That's literally the only post in his filter where he even tries to talk about reads and yet it amounts to nothing more than a list post.
IDK, I guess some people are literally not trying this game at all. OO is not worth going after, though.
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Geript is obviously not mafia if you've been reading the game at all.
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On April 06 2013 09:17 Bill Murray wrote: I want to pick a defensive role, since mafia are unlikely to pick them, but if I overlap with someone, I'll be a townie ;/ Just pick one. If you don't get it, at least you can be sure someone was smart enough to pick it already.
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There's no good reason to think Caller is mafia right now, either.
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I will say, I want to see more from this VE/RO exchange.
I feel like at least one is mafia.
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The only argument there is, if he's town, why did scum LET him get first pick, when anyone could have blocked him and still had a reasonable chance to be high in the picks.
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I'll post when I damn well feel like it.
Right now there is only so much to achieve.
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The correct analysis of the BM/Palmar situation is that BM is essentially alignment-null from his current posting, given that his spamminess and lack of explanation for his reads could come from scum or town, and only a real look into his meta could define the difference.
Palmar's analysis is a point against Palmar, because while he attempts to include meta, it is half-assed and not representative of both BM's town and scum games. Palmar lacks effort in this game, as I've said before, but it making a conscious effort to post SOMETHING, but the stuff he is posting is not meaningful at all. It only serves to give the appearance that he's active and interested, which I don't think town Palmar would even care to appear.
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Palmar's comment on VE, even if VE is scum, is also no reason to think him town. It's a passing comment made that follows thread sentiment. In no way is Palmar taking that read of VE seriously.
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On April 07 2013 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 02:13 yamato77 wrote: The correct analysis of the BM/Palmar situation is that BM is essentially alignment-null from his current posting, given that his spamminess and lack of explanation for his reads could come from scum or town, and only a real look into his meta could define the difference.
Palmar's analysis is a point against Palmar, because while he attempts to include meta, it is half-assed and not representative of both BM's town and scum games. Palmar lacks effort in this game, as I've said before, but it making a conscious effort to post SOMETHING, but the stuff he is posting is not meaningful at all. It only serves to give the appearance that he's active and interested, which I don't think town Palmar would even care to appear. I hate when people piggyback my scumread but dont credit me. I HATE IT. 1) Stop spamming. You're capable of playing better than this, so do it.
2) I'm not reading your posts.
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Vivax, what do you think of people's accusations that you are mafia?
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I wanna kill Palmar.
##Vote Palmar
Anyone who disagrees with me is scum.
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Palmar is also putting up a front.
He wants you to believe he doesn't care and is reading the game, but is obviously making an effort to post, even if his posts say absolutely nothing.
Town Palmar trolls or scumhunts. This Palmar is doing neither. Let's kill him.
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Does town Palmar try to look involved at all if he doesn't care about the game?
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He spams
I'm avoiding talking about the spammers right now since we have so many.
Not good lynches, IMO.
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On April 07 2013 12:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:15 yamato77 wrote: Does town Palmar try to look involved at all if he doesn't care about the game? Things to look into before voting him on that basis! Especially whether he was active in pre-games of past PYPs! You fail to understand what I'm saying.
Town Palmar doesn't give fucks, sure, but he doesn't make a point of telling the thread multiple times that he doesn't give a fuck.
He's better than any of you guys' lynchbait options.
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You'll impress me with this rayn thing if you manage to show how it's similar to his scum games.
As of right now, I'm just putting him in an "ignore" category. I don't feel like his random spam and stupid comments are alignment indicative.
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On April 07 2013 12:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmar never had a plan. He lied to make people talk and that's alignment null. Palmar bad lynch today. I must have missed this.
What did Palmar lie about, exactly?
I'm talking about the cognitive dissonance between what he says and what he's doing.
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