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How abouts we lynch sinani instead. His filter is 1 page + 2 posts, everybody can afford to go through it.
His interactions with gonzaw's claim are really bad (like, extremely scum-motivated), and he demonstrates that he is actually reading yet he fails to write more than 1 line except an easy bandwagon on to S&B when his lynch looked popular.
PS: Shevlocke really looks like a bad lynch to me. His posts look like he is reading and thinking about the game, and they look pretty insightful. I want to give him a chance N1/D2 to achieve something. I think I'd lynch VE before him.
Either way, I'm off to find the voting topic. Since it seems customary to do this here as well,
##Vote: sinani206
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On April 09 2013 01:09 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 01:07 Sn0_Man wrote: How abouts we lynch sinani instead. His filter is 1 page + 2 posts, everybody can afford to go through it.
His interactions with gonzaw's claim are really bad (like, extremely scum-motivated), and he demonstrates that he is actually reading yet he fails to write more than 1 line except an easy bandwagon on to S&B when his lynch looked popular.
PS: Shevlocke really looks like a bad lynch to me. His posts look like he is reading and thinking about the game, and they look pretty insightful. I want to give him a chance N1/D2 to achieve something. I think I'd lynch VE before him.
Either way, I'm off to find the voting topic. Since it seems customary to do this here as well,
##Vote: sinani206 hey sn0_man can you explain why you picked [3][5]? Hey Caller can you explain why you are shitting up the thread for no reason?
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How does caller get away with bullshit like that?
I picked 1,1, he knows it, I've outed it to the thread before and during the game. This frustrates me...
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If anybody bothered to read the NRA role description they would see that it states the visitor dies at the end of the cycle so gonzaw 100% couldn't have died that way (although I see that most of us have already come to that conclusion anyway).
PS: geript's "I'm VT, didn't get NRA" claim definitely makes sense as scum in a lot of different circumstances (including him lying). It does NOT make him scum, but it also shouldn't count for any town cred.
@geript why did you choose NRA?
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On April 09 2013 02:33 austinmcc wrote: (1) What interactions with Gonzaw were scum-motivated? (2) Which posts look like Shelvocke is reading and thinking the game? Which are insightful?
(1) He has made 3 total posts since gonzaw's claim. First, he asks gonzaw to kill Bill Murray, a subject of no discussion that wouldn't really shed any light on the game. It isn't who he is voting for and his only justification is "I have no meta on him but I think he is scummy" (thats his second post). His third is basically asking gonzaw to full roleclaim (which, in light of scum clearly having an assassin, is extremely scummy. Nothing from him since then.
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(2) I dunno, his filter?
If you are really needy, just read his last post:
On April 08 2013 17:18 Shelvocke wrote: I think yamato shot gonzaw. I can't prove it, but it's the explanation that makes best sense to me right now going by people's reactions. I'm not entirely sure if he's the kind of person who would do that as town, but just skimming through the last normalish town game of his (Town Aint Big Mafia), I think it's entirely possible. Going to sleep on this, but that's where I'm at right now.
Even if he is insane and or making stuff up, its fairly clear that he is reading and thinking the game and is thus contributing quite a bit more than Sinani (and VE, to be honest). I'd rather have him in the game Day 2 than either of the other 2. He was trying to figure out what person shot gonzaw when really nobody else was thinking that way.
Really, my argument isn't that Shelvocke isn't scum, its that he is a better player to have in the thread come day 2 than sinani or VE based off of play so far. My scum-identification rate is really bad.
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On April 09 2013 02:53 strongandbig wrote: hey sno-man a few pages back sharrant and i each shared our reads on obviousone. wanna join the "trying to be less lurky" party? poop us out a read on obviousone
"Hey Sn0 give us a read on every person in the thread" no fuck you I don't like big games.
I think Sinani is the best lynch today and there is my vote. Other people I don't like (but don't expect to lynch either) include oatsmaster and to an extent bill murray.
I joined this PYP because its PYP so hopefully some interesting stuff happens tonight. I'm more interested in cool roles and interactions and that stuff and less interested in the traditional mafia scumhunt. I've played all my games with an eye towards solving stuff (with logic and blue roles) rather than having good reads on people.
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On April 09 2013 03:04 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 02:58 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 09 2013 02:53 strongandbig wrote: hey sno-man a few pages back sharrant and i each shared our reads on obviousone. wanna join the "trying to be less lurky" party? poop us out a read on obviousone "Hey Sn0 give us a read on every person in the thread" no fuck you I don't like big games. I think Sinani is the best lynch today and there is my vote. Other people I don't like (but don't expect to lynch either) include oatsmaster and to an extent bill murray. I joined this PYP because its PYP so hopefully some interesting stuff happens tonight. I'm more interested in cool roles and interactions and that stuff and less interested in the traditional mafia scumhunt. I've played all my games with an eye towards solving stuff (with logic and blue roles) rather than having good reads on people. I found newbies 37 and 38. Have you been in any other games?
36 and maybe 35? I was definitely in 36. I've only played newbies and I played a string of them.
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On April 09 2013 03:06 strongandbig wrote: you can't just say 'fuck you im not going to play'
Thats absolutely not what I said but w/e.
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Yeah the thread did conclude that like 2 pages after it happened, which showed that more than a few people didn't even read the role we were discussing. There were definitely people postulating that it was NRA.
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He looks useless this game, but from what I could tell the heart of all the arguments against him are meta arguments, which I can't comment on because I've never played a game with him nor have I read one sufficiently to have any meta on him.
I have a pretty null read on him, but I'll say that he is a better lynch than artanis (who has not cleared himself but who has at least put up a real defense) and a better lynch than many other people simply because of the amount of discussion surrounding him (aka it would be an informative lynch as compared to, say, a shevlocke lynch which I don't see as producing much valuable information by flipping). Which is why as I've said I may vote VE if it comes to that. Right now I want people to lynch Sinani though so I'm in no rush to vote VE.
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Wait, did day end early or was I just completely wrong as to what time things were happening?
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On April 09 2013 04:19 geript wrote: Off the top of my head the people I want to look at are: yamato, caller, shelvocke, austinmcc, bill murray, sinani
Caller?
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So showtime was also used as far as I can tell because thats the only thing that ends days instantly that I could find. Unless caller got a character bonus somehow?
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On April 09 2013 04:29 Caller wrote: no, voterigger didnt do anything, if there is one
i did end the day, but since there was double lynch both of them wouldve died anyways
How do you know voterigger didn't make the double lynch?
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Where is that list of numbers I'm now curious to see if we can figure out a scum picking strategy based off of the VE and Artanis flips.
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On April 09 2013 04:32 Restraining Order wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:29 Caller wrote: no, voterigger didnt do anything, if there is one
i did end the day, but since there was double lynch both of them wouldve died anyways Where did the doublelynch come from then?
He thinks emperor
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Yeah, direct claiming is a mistake IMO but whats done is done. Fishing for direct claims also looks scummy to me :/
If we had an emperor they had to choose to double lynch BEFORE the day started (read the role). However, they also get to choose the day 1 lynch (this part wasn't worded quite as clearly, it may be an "additional" lynch?). I'd say it sounds like a town vote-rigger but I could be wrong.
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EBWOP: what i mean is, it sounds like what happened was a town vote-rigger submitted a double lynch request today, although IMO its kinda early for that to happen. Ah well.
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See, this is why I wanted to play PYP.
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