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On April 12 2013 11:27 Mocsta wrote: Someone martyred recently, cant remember who though
anyone recall if scum or town did it? Who cares.
Sharrant is not whoever it was that did it. It's an irrelevant point.
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I don't think RO is scum.
The whole RO vs VE thing didn't feel like a double bus.
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gg austin. I'm sad you died
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Why are you not reading Mocsta?
S&B claimed Detective (which also happened to be what Sharrant tried to get). I claimed NKVD.
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So, if we want to coordinate night actions:
S&B check geript. Vivax check Mocsta I'll check Vivax Mocsta check...RO? Shelvocke? BM Shoot S&B. Sn0 make whatever sounds the best. Although I recommend something to reveal one (some?) or the hidden flips if possible.
Reason for not checking Meapak: if BM shoots S&B and dies, then S&B is telling the truth and is a town DT. Therefore he has a green check on MZ.
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On April 12 2013 12:39 geript wrote: Kei, Yamato should be on that list somewhere Yea, probably. Not exactly sure where. I'll think about it some more.
On April 12 2013 12:40 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 12:37 geript wrote:On April 12 2013 12:31 yamato77 wrote: The plan from here is simple:
Check/Shoot/Lynch BM Check/Shoot/Lynch Mocsta
GG You tried to grab justice vig right? Why BM then? JV could have been one of Rayn or Palmar. And BM somehow knew that they were the JV and that he could claim it safely?
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On April 12 2013 13:06 geript wrote: Kei, you like daytime justice vig gun idea? No, its bad.
Giving away town players for free is terrible.
Why do you think I put JV in my "Do Not Pick" list.
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The thing about BM's claim, like I've already said multiple times, is that is self-fulfilling. Either S&B dies tomorrow and flips scum, BM dies tomorrow and flips town JV, or both are still alive and we have probable cause to lynch BM.
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Also, this is part of the reason I wanted sn0 to invent the Autopsy thing.
I don't think rayn picked JV in slot 2. Very, very unlikely, imo. Emperor is a possibility, or something else entirely.
Palmar: his insistence on his part in the VE lynch makes me think emperor. JV is a possibility though.
The point of the item is to check the corpse of rayn for his role. If he's anything other than emperor, then we know that Palmar was emperor, which means that BM has to be JV because yam also tried to pick it. Or that yam is lying and is something else entirely.
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On April 12 2013 14:30 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 14:26 Keirathi wrote: Also, this is part of the reason I wanted sn0 to invent the Autopsy thing.
I don't think rayn picked JV in slot 2. Very, very unlikely, imo. Emperor is a possibility, or something else entirely.
Palmar: his insistence on his part in the VE lynch makes me think emperor. JV is a possibility though.
The point of the item is to check the corpse of rayn for his role. If he's anything other than emperor, then we know that Palmar was emperor, which means that BM has to be JV because yam also tried to pick it. Or that yam is lying and is something else entirely. I agree on the palmar tell for emperor, which was the consensus back on Day2. Kei, this seems to be a convoluted way to just burn a check on JV. Why burn an invention? Because it helps to solve the game?
The whole situation surrounding BM is the most confusing part of the game at this point and it doesn't seem like BM is going to be very cooperative.
Some kind of list check, or more cop checks, or role checks, or anything that helps to figure the game out is fine too. But I don't know if I'll be alive tomorrow to direct people with proper use of the inventions, and judging by half of the posts today, people are too caught up with calling each other idiots or being "right" rather than making smart, logical decisions.
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On April 12 2013 14:56 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 07:59 Keirathi wrote:
VERDICT: INNOCENT
(Yes, that means he's town)
[Explanation]Sorry, all this was just RP for funsies. The Lie Detector isn't really a Lie Detector at all. It's just a day DT check, with a few conditionals. It could only be used on the person leading the vote count, and it could only be used if that person had at least 5 votes. I decided to check sinani since he's borderline unreadable, and doing it now gives the thread plenty of time to discuss an alternate candidate if he is town. If he's scum, then awesome.
day "DT" check. That implies role + alignment, is this correct? No, it was just alignment.
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On April 12 2013 15:45 Bill Murray wrote: Why the fuck are you all talking about my role at night which has KP? I'm not vigging until we have confirmation about who is scum. I'm not dying and creating an earlier LYLO/MYLO when there are like 12 town players left. I wish the host would keep the list updated. I slept the day away, so ObviousOne flipping scum changed my mood a lot, considering I've been neglecting my responsibilities as a man... and I WILL be looking into him... but if mafia weren't going to kill me tonight, WHICH I WAS TRYING FOR, you all are fucking that all up. I mean, when someone doesn't want the thread SHIT UP with their role, which I HAVEN'T CLAIMED OTHER THAN IN ACRONYM, That should be UP TO THEM, Don't you all think?!?!?! .................... No.
You claimed that Caller dying means that he was scum. We're in a position now where there are either 1 or 2 scum left alive, but we can't know which because you aren't claiming your role. Also, yamato claimed to have picked Justice Vig. If you aren't JV, then you withholding that information is YET ANOTHER player that we know nothing about.
Everyone else who is town (and probably someone who is scum, too) was willing to claim. Why are you being so uncooperative? You are directly hindering town.
Also, why are you worried about dying? We have 5 claimed cops, an inventor, and an America! I don't think you're in any danger of dying even if you claim.
Stop hindering town.
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EBWOP: actually, I'll make it simple. Either you claim before night ends, or you get lynched tomorrow.
Your only claim to townieness was that we all thought you were justice vig because of how sure you were that Caller was scum.
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Pretty sure 3p isn't possible.
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On April 12 2013 16:33 Bill Murray wrote: my rolename changed a little, to injustice vig, but i didnt see anything different about the text until now in terms of the highlighted. considering the CPR doctor didn't change, and only Assassin GF did, you all should view this as a null tell. If you are going to lynch me, I'd rather take my chances trying to kill scum tonight, so tell me now. If I ask you nicely, will you pretty please shoot S&B?
1) I think there's a decent chance that he is scum.
2) If he's not, then your death (mostly) clears 3 people.
3) Your death gives us a ton of information if S&B does happen to be town. If we see your role flip and know for sure that you are JV, then WE know that caller was scum and we'll know better what we're looking for.
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On April 13 2013 01:35 geript wrote: Best plan here:
S&B check Yamato Vivax check Mocsta Keirathi check S&B Mocsta check... RO or Vivax if you want. BM Shoot Vivax or S&B (pref for Vivax) Sn0 make a KP invention and hand it out to obvious town. We want a stack of KP in case we get to the endgame.
I'm the most likely to die of the cops if one of us does die. And whoever is checking S&B is the most important check, because it not only clears S&B, but it also soft-clears MZ and whoever S&B checks tonight. So me checking S&B is bad form.
S&B check yamato Vivax check Mocsta I'll check geript Mocsta check Vivax BM Shoot S&B
Sn0: make an item to give us more information, not KP. We don't need KP at all.
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On April 13 2013 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote: Wat about shelvocke?
PS: M_Z is hard confirmed green unless godfather because SnB/M_Z is too many scum (assuming one is BM/Caller) and they both have roles that aren't traitor. Maybe I'll check Shelvocke instead.
Also, it should be noted that any red check should be lynched tomorrow, no questions asked. If that person ends up not flipping scum, that means that RO is using framing and therefor is scum. Lynch him the next day.
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On April 13 2013 02:05 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 02:00 Keirathi wrote:On April 13 2013 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote: Wat about shelvocke?
PS: M_Z is hard confirmed green unless godfather because SnB/M_Z is too many scum (assuming one is BM/Caller) and they both have roles that aren't traitor. Maybe I'll check Shelvocke instead. Also, it should be noted that any red check should be lynched tomorrow, no questions asked. If that person ends up not flipping scum, that means that RO is using framing and therefor is scum. Lynch him the next day. Well, red checks can also mean the checker is scum but that is fine because we know who he is as well. This game is so nigh-unloseable that I want to invent KP just to speed it up. KP is the "faster" option. But really, its almost always better to play it safe.
Right now its either 12-1, or 11-2. Assuming scum still has an active KP role to use (which might not be the case), at most 3 people should die tonight. Which gives us 2 more lynches and nights (at least) before LYLO. No need to get hasty, especially when we apparently have so many investigation roles. Every extra KP used at this point just makes us that much more likely to lose because people are impatient.
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On April 13 2013 02:08 geript wrote: Why do you idiots think I even could be scum? Do you think that Artanis case vs me and my case vs VE was a weird triple bus situation? You people are dumb beyond measure. I honestly stopped caring about the "bus" situation when apparently Caller is scum.
Your play the entirety of day 2 was anti-town. You've been insisting that people treat you as confirmed town. You seem to care more about your "confirmed" townieness than you do about anything else in the game. It's fucking weird. I don't really think you are scum, but it would surprise me much less than some other people being scum solely because of your attitude and play day 2.
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