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On March 28 2013 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:17 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:05 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:00 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 04:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 04:52 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
EBWOP:
##Unvote
##Vote: Keirathi And why do YOU think I am scum. Sheeping marv is not a "reason". Give me a reason. Why the fixation for reasons? Basically cause you pushed prp for almost the whole of day 1, really hard, shutting down everyone who defended him then after like 3 posts from prp, and town sentiment shifting, you give up. What. Also the most important point, clearly, is that you have a 3 page filter. A 3 PAGE FILTER. I pushed prplhz for the whole of day 1? What the hell? I was on Grack for the first 24 hours. Is that the only thing you can say?? What about marv's 'concerns'? I already replied to marv. By saying nothing incriminating and being all nice, same with mine. Kinda, by objecting to a non-relevant part of my reasoning. Where is the post with your reads that you were promising? I wasn't objecting to the non-relevant part of your reasoning. I was objecting to the only part of your reasoning that was actually coherent. "What is with your obsession with reasons?" and "You have a 3 page filter." are not valid reasons at all, and not worth responding to. Anyways, I'm really not feeling the sinani push.
My preferred lynch today would be Smurf. The way he was just so absolutely sure that prplhz was town when Hapa and I were both arguing the opposite really feels like he knows alignments already.
If Smurf isn't happening, I am really unsure past that. I would consolidate to Nisani to secure a lynch, but i don't feel super strong about it either. He could be scum, but mostly he's just a lurker to me. Marv is being useless, Palmar has like 10 scumreads but isn't pushing any of them or doing anything. S&B: Where the hell is he in all this? I could get behind lynching him too. I was pretty sure prp was town so I dont see your point about smurf. Why did you focus on the facts that I was wrong about and not my main point? Its nitpicking and discredit's my point without addressing the main issue which is your really fucking quick unvote in line with thread sentiment.
So: Keep my vote on prplhz when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum.
Unvote him when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum.
Gotcha.
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Fuck all the goddamn sheep.
Seriously.
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On March 28 2013 05:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:22 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:17 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:05 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:00 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 04:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 04:52 Keirathi wrote:
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And why do YOU think I am scum. Sheeping marv is not a "reason". Give me a reason. Why the fixation for reasons? Basically cause you pushed prp for almost the whole of day 1, really hard, shutting down everyone who defended him then after like 3 posts from prp, and town sentiment shifting, you give up. What. Also the most important point, clearly, is that you have a 3 page filter. A 3 PAGE FILTER. I pushed prplhz for the whole of day 1? What the hell? I was on Grack for the first 24 hours. Is that the only thing you can say?? What about marv's 'concerns'? I already replied to marv. By saying nothing incriminating and being all nice, same with mine. Kinda, by objecting to a non-relevant part of my reasoning. Where is the post with your reads that you were promising? I wasn't objecting to the non-relevant part of your reasoning. I was objecting to the only part of your reasoning that was actually coherent. "What is with your obsession with reasons?" and "You have a 3 page filter." are not valid reasons at all, and not worth responding to. Anyways, I'm really not feeling the sinani push.
My preferred lynch today would be Smurf. The way he was just so absolutely sure that prplhz was town when Hapa and I were both arguing the opposite really feels like he knows alignments already.
If Smurf isn't happening, I am really unsure past that. I would consolidate to Nisani to secure a lynch, but i don't feel super strong about it either. He could be scum, but mostly he's just a lurker to me. Marv is being useless, Palmar has like 10 scumreads but isn't pushing any of them or doing anything. S&B: Where the hell is he in all this? I could get behind lynching him too. I was pretty sure prp was town so I dont see your point about smurf. Why did you focus on the facts that I was wrong about and not my main point? Its nitpicking and discredit's my point without addressing the main issue which is your really fucking quick unvote in line with thread sentiment. So: Keep my vote on prplhz when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum. Unvote him when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum. Gotcha. So you call out Prp, he changes. And you are happy. ??? Your initial push wanted to get him lynched, not wanted him to change his play. Why wouldnt he as scum change his play? DUDE YOU HAVE NO READS. AND YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT WITH PRP. DUUUDE.
Yes, I am happy that he started playing better. I don't want to mislynch townies. What are you even asking?
Basically you're saying that I should have 100% confident reads, and never re-evaluate or change my mind no matter what happens later. Yea okay, bro. You play mafia like that if you want to.
1) I have had reads. Quit being bad.
2) More than that, prplhz at the time wasn't invested in town affairs. Can you say that about me?
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On March 28 2013 05:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:27 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:22 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:17 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:05 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:00 Keirathi wrote:
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I pushed prplhz for the whole of day 1? What the hell?
I was on Grack for the first 24 hours. Is that the only thing you can say?? What about marv's 'concerns'? I already replied to marv. By saying nothing incriminating and being all nice, same with mine. Kinda, by objecting to a non-relevant part of my reasoning. Where is the post with your reads that you were promising? I wasn't objecting to the non-relevant part of your reasoning. I was objecting to the only part of your reasoning that was actually coherent. "What is with your obsession with reasons?" and "You have a 3 page filter." are not valid reasons at all, and not worth responding to. Anyways, I'm really not feeling the sinani push.
My preferred lynch today would be Smurf. The way he was just so absolutely sure that prplhz was town when Hapa and I were both arguing the opposite really feels like he knows alignments already.
If Smurf isn't happening, I am really unsure past that. I would consolidate to Nisani to secure a lynch, but i don't feel super strong about it either. He could be scum, but mostly he's just a lurker to me. Marv is being useless, Palmar has like 10 scumreads but isn't pushing any of them or doing anything. S&B: Where the hell is he in all this? I could get behind lynching him too. I was pretty sure prp was town so I dont see your point about smurf. Why did you focus on the facts that I was wrong about and not my main point? Its nitpicking and discredit's my point without addressing the main issue which is your really fucking quick unvote in line with thread sentiment. So: Keep my vote on prplhz when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum. Unvote him when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum. Gotcha. So you call out Prp, he changes. And you are happy. ??? Your initial push wanted to get him lynched, not wanted him to change his play. Why wouldnt he as scum change his play? DUDE YOU HAVE NO READS. AND YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT WITH PRP. DUUUDE. Yes, I am happy that he started playing better. I don't want to mislynch townies. What are you even asking? Basically you're saying that I should have 100% confident reads, and never re-evaluate or change my mind no matter what happens later. Yea okay, bro. You play mafia like that if you want to. 1) I have had reads. Quit being bad. 2) More than that, prplhz at the time wasn't invested in town affairs. Can you say that about me? 1) What are those 'reads', you seem really uncertain about the upcoming lynch 2)Why are you challenging me to prove that you werent invested when that is a very subjective thing. This whole post feels off. I dont know. :/
Yes, it's subjective. I want your subjective opinion: do you think I have been emotionally uninvested in this game? It's a simple yes or no question. Hell, you played in Duel. Do you think my play this game matches my play from Duel?
Basically I want to know exactly why you think I am scum. I can't argue with "this post feels off" and bullshit like that.
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On March 28 2013 05:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:36 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:27 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:22 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:17 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 05:05 Keirathi wrote:
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I already replied to marv. By saying nothing incriminating and being all nice, same with mine. Kinda, by objecting to a non-relevant part of my reasoning. Where is the post with your reads that you were promising? I wasn't objecting to the non-relevant part of your reasoning. I was objecting to the only part of your reasoning that was actually coherent. "What is with your obsession with reasons?" and "You have a 3 page filter." are not valid reasons at all, and not worth responding to. Anyways, I'm really not feeling the sinani push.
My preferred lynch today would be Smurf. The way he was just so absolutely sure that prplhz was town when Hapa and I were both arguing the opposite really feels like he knows alignments already.
If Smurf isn't happening, I am really unsure past that. I would consolidate to Nisani to secure a lynch, but i don't feel super strong about it either. He could be scum, but mostly he's just a lurker to me. Marv is being useless, Palmar has like 10 scumreads but isn't pushing any of them or doing anything. S&B: Where the hell is he in all this? I could get behind lynching him too. I was pretty sure prp was town so I dont see your point about smurf. Why did you focus on the facts that I was wrong about and not my main point? Its nitpicking and discredit's my point without addressing the main issue which is your really fucking quick unvote in line with thread sentiment. So: Keep my vote on prplhz when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum. Unvote him when he stops doing everything I called him out for = scum. Gotcha. So you call out Prp, he changes. And you are happy. ??? Your initial push wanted to get him lynched, not wanted him to change his play. Why wouldnt he as scum change his play? DUDE YOU HAVE NO READS. AND YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT WITH PRP. DUUUDE. Yes, I am happy that he started playing better. I don't want to mislynch townies. What are you even asking? Basically you're saying that I should have 100% confident reads, and never re-evaluate or change my mind no matter what happens later. Yea okay, bro. You play mafia like that if you want to. 1) I have had reads. Quit being bad. 2) More than that, prplhz at the time wasn't invested in town affairs. Can you say that about me? 1) What are those 'reads', you seem really uncertain about the upcoming lynch 2)Why are you challenging me to prove that you werent invested when that is a very subjective thing. This whole post feels off. I dont know. :/ Yes, it's subjective. I want your subjective opinion: do you think I have been emotionally uninvested in this game? It's a simple yes or no question. Hell, you played in Duel. Do you think my play this game matches my play from Duel? Basically I want to know exactly why you think I am scum. I can't argue with "this post feels off" and bullshit like that. You said yourself you got really depressed when you rolled scum in Duel and saw the explosion in posts and had very little time. I dont think its an accurate representation of your scum play and that you are bringing it up, its concerning/scummy. Also it seems like you are challenging me to go and say you are uninvested. Like 'HEY IM SO INVESTED, IM TOWN YOU IDIOT' which I dont feel is a townie response to the pressure.
Because I do feel like I've been invested in this game. I'm not saying that 100% makes me town, but you were comparing how I'm playing to what I was accusing prplhz of earlier, and I don't think I am exhibiting a single one of the characteristics that I attributed to him early in the game.
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Okay a fucking challenge. Because I'm tired of all the goddamn sheep who just start throwing my name around:
If you think I am scum, or might be scum, or whatever: come here and have a conversation with me. Try to figure me out. Think for yourself for a change.
Let's go.
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On March 28 2013 06:01 Palmar wrote:
This is like the most uncertain I've been on day 1 in like ever.
Keirathi I'll talk to you. Tell me who should be hanging instead of you. afaik your vote is on me.
No, my vote is not on you and never has been.
Smurf should be hanging. He was way, way, way too confident that prplhz was town based off of 6 total posts.
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On March 28 2013 06:03 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:01 Palmar wrote:
This is like the most uncertain I've been on day 1 in like ever.
Keirathi I'll talk to you. Tell me who should be hanging instead of you. afaik your vote is on me. No, my vote is not on you and never has been. Smurf should be hanging. He was way, way, way too confident that prplhz was town based off of 6 total posts.
EBWOP: Oh wait, It was on you for like an horu earlier in the day. I forgot about your random ass post about Grack 
That was like 36 hours ago though.
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On March 28 2013 06:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:03 Keirathi wrote:On March 28 2013 06:01 Palmar wrote:
This is like the most uncertain I've been on day 1 in like ever.
Keirathi I'll talk to you. Tell me who should be hanging instead of you. afaik your vote is on me. No, my vote is not on you and never has been. Smurf should be hanging. He was way, way, way too confident that prplhz was town based off of 6 total posts. Actually it has been, but my bad. smurf is certainly a possibility, I don't think we can lynch him today, but he has some pretty strange things about him. Can you give us a read on every player in case you die. long/short/whatever.
1) I don't plan on dying today.
and 2) I will closer to the deadline. I want people in here discussing things with me, not to spend all of my time writing up a last post.
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Okay, I guess I should do this now to give people time to talk about it since it looks like I'm leading the votes now:
cDgCorazon and I are masons
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On March 28 2013 06:09 Palmar wrote:
are you confirmed town masons?
Yes.
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Also fuck every single person who wasn't willing to sit down and discuss things with me.
God, now I understand why marv got so pissed off in LVIII.
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On March 28 2013 06:13 Palmar wrote:
So they're masons that are confirmed town to each other. Can you recruit into your mason circle? hell explain your role in detail now that it's out there anyway
We are just 2 perma-masons. We can talk with each other, but we can't recruit or anything of the sort.
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On March 28 2013 06:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
Marv. The facts speak for themselves.
Nisani was the leading vote getter, and then you decide to make a case on Kei 2 hours before the lynch and vote for him. What else is there to say? For the third time: Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora.
One word: Node.
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On March 28 2013 06:18 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:18 Palmar wrote:
Didn't Grackaroni have some kind of a mason role too, with this "circle of friends" stuff? The exact specifics of the role were not really in the role description but yes, it looked like a mason circle thing that could grow.
The OP specifically mentions an expanding Mason Circle of people of any alignment.
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On March 28 2013 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Nisani
Keir, can you paraphrase what have you talked about in the mason circle? Just a short version.
We haven't really talked about much up until this point. Strategy, how to play as masons, when we should claim, some specifics of our role, etc.
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Between sinani and Nisani, I prefer Nisani. Whatever marv wants to say, this swing onto me full of blatant sheeping and no one willing to think for themselves or even discuss things with me (except Oats) rings of scum motivated.
##Vote Nisani
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On March 28 2013 06:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:28 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 06:27 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 06:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know.
Why did Hapa unvote so fast?
Grr.
Thanks keir for making me confused. >.<
Palmar WE SHOULD LYNCH PALMAR.
or sinani. ##Unvote:
Vote: Sinani You think Palmar is mafia. Palmar wants to kill sinani, not Nisani. Why are you voting for sinani, then? Because Palmar is known to bus? Why should I base my reads on associations to unflipped players? If my primary scumread is voting for a candidate in a choice of 2, I'm fairly likely to think that the other guy is in fact mafia. Palmar has no reason to bus sinani in this instance because Nisani could get lynched. But whatever. Ok marv. I rather be right once and wrong once than wrong twice because I thought that Palmar was scum when in fact he was town. (egoistic i know, trying to emulate marv) Hapa, mind explaining what is scummy about my play?
KALJSKLDALSKDJASKLJDALKSJDKLAS
Hypocritical much? When I asked you this same question, you flipped out on me :o
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On March 28 2013 06:48 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:45 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 06:43 ObviousOne wrote:On March 28 2013 06:42 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 06:40 ObviousOne wrote:On March 28 2013 06:39 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 06:37 ObviousOne wrote:On March 28 2013 06:32 Nisani201 wrote:
I don't really know who else is mafia. I was thinking Cora was suspicious but he's probably not scum.
I'll have to look things over. Guys Guys Lol this is the right person to lynch. Since when the hell are you suspicious of Nisani? Does this not read to you as he's still suspicious of Cora There's no reason, NONE, right now, if you've read the thread, to worry about Cora. Zero. I don't know what you're reading at all. He says he was suspicious of Cora. So he literally brought NOTHING new to the table. And you are okay with this? So you're all over him now and convinced he's scum (despite supporting Sinani/Kei earlier) because all of a sudden he makes one post that brings nothing new to the table? uhhhhh. Not sure what your beef is. It's the right lynch for D1 based on what is possible right now. If you're unhappy about the candidates maybe you should have brought it up, oh, I donno, anytime before the final hours before the lynch. Nisani is the better choice between Sinani and Nisani right now, especially with Keirathi now definitely not getting lynched. That's my updated opinion. They are calling each other scum and any insight we might gain from one on the other is bunk.
Bolded implies that you still want to lynch me. Discuss?
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Can we kill S&B tomorrow?
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