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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:09 GMT
#621
On March 27 2013 08:08 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Corazon, the day I'm afraid to call someone like you mafia is the day I give up mafia.


THEN CALL ME MAFIA


You're turning this into an unnecessary dichotomy. Just because someone is questioning you doesn't mean you're at the top of their scum-radar. For example, I'm questioning you, and you haven't been saying "HAPA Y U NO CALL ME SCUM."
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:11 GMT
#623
On March 27 2013 08:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 27 2013 08:08 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 27 2013 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Corazon, the day I'm afraid to call someone like you mafia is the day I give up mafia.


THEN CALL ME MAFIA


You're turning this into an unnecessary dichotomy. Just because someone is questioning you doesn't mean you're at the top of their scum-radar. For example, I'm questioning you, and you haven't been saying "HAPA Y U NO CALL ME SCUM."


Because Marv's done this in every game I've played with him.


Ok so there's some history behind this. So can we please just answer his question and move on? It'll take like 2 minutes. Please.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:15 GMT
#627
On March 27 2013 08:12 cDgCorazon wrote:
I did answer his question. I said I didn't read his post before I read yours. How many times do I have to say it?


Yeah but that explanation doesn't make very much sense. You explicitly responded to his post and criticized his rationale:

On March 27 2013 01:18 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On March 27 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 01:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy crap Corazon is failing hard to even read my filter.


I read your filter and all you've done is attack 6 people, all of which have been under pressure from others. I read your filter bro. Get some better defense.


The fact is that rayn has brought new things to the table too; his analysis/vote of OO's second post, or Oats' apparent contradiction with the prplhz/Dandel cases - and indeed something came of this.

Being active, suspicious of many people, and aggressively questioning are not what I think of as mafia characteristics.


He's not being suspicious of many people, he's jumping around from read to read hoping that it makes him look like he is scumhunting. The only read that he has discussed more than a sentence is his read on OO, which was the popular person to attack at the time. He also called me prp's scum buddy 5 minutes into the game and then started lurking when I called him on that read.

He's making a whole bunch of bs reads and only scratching the surface with the arguments that he has made. It's all smoke and mirrors to look like he is scumhunting when in fact he is only creating chaos.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:19 GMT
#630
I'm pointing out that your "answer" to marv makes no sense.

Your explanation is that you didn't read marv's post before you replied to mine, correct? But that explanation is inconsistent with your behavior in the thread.

7 hours ago, you post this, explicitly responding to marv's logic.
On March 27 2013 01:18 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 01:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy crap Corazon is failing hard to even read my filter.


I read your filter and all you've done is attack 6 people, all of which have been under pressure from others. I read your filter bro. Get some better defense.


The fact is that rayn has brought new things to the table too; his analysis/vote of OO's second post, or Oats' apparent contradiction with the prplhz/Dandel cases - and indeed something came of this.

Being active, suspicious of many people, and aggressively questioning are not what I think of as mafia characteristics.


He's not being suspicious of many people, he's jumping around from read to read hoping that it makes him look like he is scumhunting. The only read that he has discussed more than a sentence is his read on OO, which was the popular person to attack at the time. He also called me prp's scum buddy 5 minutes into the game and then started lurking when I called him on that read.

He's making a whole bunch of bs reads and only scratching the surface with the arguments that he has made. It's all smoke and mirrors to look like he is scumhunting when in fact he is only creating chaos.


Then hours later, you reply to me.

Your explanation doesn't make sense. Why does it not make sense? Am I missing something here?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:25 GMT
#635
On March 27 2013 08:23 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm confused because you guys have asked me to respond to one post and have gone on to link me to or quote three different posts.

So if I answered the post I was asked to answer, why is this a big deal?


Cora. Come on.

Yes I asked you to respond to marv's post. However, your response is nonsensical. So I'm faced with a response that's contradicted by your behavior in the thread, and there are two options I can believe:

1) You are scum, got caught in a lie, and you forgot what you posted earlier in your filter.
2) You are town and are confused.

So talk to me and help me figure out which one it is. Because as I've pointed out, your story is inconsistent.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:27 GMT
#639
On March 27 2013 08:26 cDgCorazon wrote:
@ Hapa: Ok, so how about I re-respond to the original post you called nonsensical and we can get over this silly crap?


Nah forget it. You don't understand any of this, and that means you're probably town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:29 GMT
#641
So marv, this conversation is for all purposes over. View on Cora?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:38 GMT
#647
On March 27 2013 08:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok, I've finally sorted this out. I thought that Hapa was linking this post:

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
Eh, if you really want closure on that rayn... you overreacted (serious or otherwise) to prplhz at the start, so I wanted to see how you'd react to something else that was ostensibly unreasonable. You acted in a sane, normal manner, and that's all there was to see. I don't know if that thing means anything in particular for your alignment, but it's why I did it. I didn't pursue you further because I wasn't interested in pursuing you in the first place.


When in fact he was linking the one above it. I didn't read the post I just quoted until Hapa showed it to me.
There's the confusion. Glad we figured this out.


We didn't really figure it out ya know. I just kinda gave up.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 03:24 GMT
#720
Yeah I want to lynch prplzh. Been thinking about Grack, but apparently he's promising to return with some reads, so we'll see where that goes.

It's been ~30 hours, and I haven't gotten a hint that prplzh cares about the game. His filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256&user=126438

Prplzh lone "contribution" has been a complete sheep-vote on Grack. Other than that, he's been soft-pushing a bunch of players:

Asks an irrelevant question to Sinani, soft-pushes Nisani, and implies suspicion on InsertSmurfHere all in one post.
On March 27 2013 05:09 prplhz wrote:
@sinani206 Why haven't you been playing mafia for ages and what made you suddenly come back to this game?

@Acrofales What you think about Palmar? What did Nisani201 say to make you think that he is scum? Just a line or two, I'm not a big fan of huge posts. And yes, I did read your filter so please bear with me if there was something I didn't understand and say it one more time

@InsertSmurfHere
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On March 26 2013 23:38 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
[...]
Prplhz I have seen be lurky early as town, but by the end of day 1 I expect to know his alignment. He's good enough as town to put forth effort justifying his suspicions.
[...]

That can't be true unless you're like ... no, that can't be true.


Soft-pushes Palmar, despite the fact that Palmar is championing his top scumread (Grack)
On March 27 2013 05:33 prplhz wrote:
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On March 27 2013 05:30 Nisani201 wrote:
The initial case on Grack was bad, it was based off of his reactions to certain things, which weren't really scummy. He didn't do anything scummy after that. As I said earlier, the only reason people are voting for him is because of Palmar.

Aren't you worried that Palmar is making bad cases and people are just sheeping them? It kinda seems like you think it's a bad thing but you're perfectly fine with it.


Soft-pushes Sinani...
On March 27 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote:
@Nisani201 How do you feel about that sinani206 guy?

On March 27 2013 06:30 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 06:28 sinani206 wrote:
On March 27 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote:
@Nisani201 How do you feel about that sinani206 guy?

...then backs off...
Question for you: what's your problem with me?

What makes you think I have a problem with you?


...And most recently, Acro:
On March 27 2013 11:19 prplhz wrote:
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On March 27 2013 11:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody is going to vote OO/Oats/Smurf either way whatever i say. And Grack has not dona anythig useful. I would be okay switching into one of those three or Nisani/prplhz, but nobody is going to listen to me anyways so what the hell. Better to trust people i trust are town then.

lol see what the hell is this. I thought he was town but nobody is going to listen to me so now I'll just vote for town.

Some people do that when they get frustrated. I think he's frustrated and that's why he's doing it.

@Palmar Why is Acrofales town?

On March 27 2013 11:29 prplhz wrote:
If anybody else knows why Acrofales is town I'm also interested in their answers.


##Vote Prplzh
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 03:33 GMT
#725
Acro, I think that part of marv's OO read looks fine.

The point is that OO was exceptionally lurky and scared in Hydra Mini. His play is not like that this game. Looking at his game in Fruity, it's a tad more active, and more similar to this game.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 03:34 GMT
#726
And someone needs to comment on mah prplzh case:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256&currentpage=36#720
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 03:40 GMT
#728
Nah I can see Grack actually being a busy/rusty townie. I can't see Prplhz being this dis-engaged as town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 03:44 GMT
#730
On March 27 2013 12:41 Nisani201 wrote:
I don't understand why we're still taking about this meta stuff. Just because OO’s play style is different in this game than another doesn't make him scum. In fact, it means absolutely nothing.

I agree that prplhz has been flying under the radar and he could be scum. I want to hear other's thoughts on it though.


Well it's not that he's just flying under the radar. It's that he's soft-pushing suspicion on every player he can lay his eyes on whilst having no original contributions to the thread.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 03:48 GMT
#734
Like this post is scummy as fuck, and you all should instantly lynch prplzh for it:

On March 27 2013 05:33 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 05:30 Nisani201 wrote:
The initial case on Grack was bad, it was based off of his reactions to certain things, which weren't really scummy. He didn't do anything scummy after that. As I said earlier, the only reason people are voting for him is because of Palmar.

Aren't you worried that Palmar is making bad cases and people are just sheeping them? It kinda seems like you think it's a bad thing but you're perfectly fine with it.


"Hey Nisani, I see you're not suspicious of Palmar, so why don't I convince you otherwise?"

Mind-blowing considering that he's sheeping Palmar with his Grack vote.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 03:58 GMT
#739
People need to stop being idiots and vote for Prplhz.

I challenge you to figure out how this quote comes from a townie:
On March 27 2013 05:33 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 05:30 Nisani201 wrote:
The initial case on Grack was bad, it was based off of his reactions to certain things, which weren't really scummy. He didn't do anything scummy after that. As I said earlier, the only reason people are voting for him is because of Palmar.

Aren't you worried that Palmar is making bad cases and people are just sheeping them? It kinda seems like you think it's a bad thing but you're perfectly fine with it.


Prplhz sheeped Palmar on his Grack case. He should find him town.
Therefore, he passively suggests to Nisani that Nisani should find Palmar more suspicious? Yeah no.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 04:07 GMT
#741
And I'm looking at you Kei. How on earth can you tunnel prplzh for like ever, call him a "scummy slime", read this quote, then still keep your vote on Grack?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 04:12 GMT
#744
On March 27 2013 13:10 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 13:07 Hapahauli wrote:
And I'm looking at you Kei. How on earth can you tunnel prplzh for like ever, call him a "scummy slime", read this quote, then still keep your vote on Grack?

Tunnel him forever? What the fuck?

And quit trying to bully me into a vote. I'll switch my vote when I'm satisfied with Grack's contributions.


Meh I confused your filter.

But damn man, what part of Grack's filter is scummy than that quote?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 04:17 GMT
#747
On March 27 2013 13:13 ObviousOne wrote:
Some feed back on my choice words against Rayn would be nice right now. People who are here? Any feedback would be appreciated.


A lot of what you posted against Rayn is explained by him being an active, paranoid townie.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 04:34 GMT
#749
It reads more as frustration than anything sinister to me.

Aaaaanyway I'll let him speak for himself. My sole objective right now is to get prplhz lynched - thoughts on him?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 05:00 GMT
#752
On March 27 2013 13:40 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 12:58 Hapahauli wrote:
People need to stop being idiots and vote for Prplhz.

I challenge you to figure out how this quote comes from a townie:
On March 27 2013 05:33 prplhz wrote:
On March 27 2013 05:30 Nisani201 wrote:
The initial case on Grack was bad, it was based off of his reactions to certain things, which weren't really scummy. He didn't do anything scummy after that. As I said earlier, the only reason people are voting for him is because of Palmar.

Aren't you worried that Palmar is making bad cases and people are just sheeping them? It kinda seems like you think it's a bad thing but you're perfectly fine with it.


Prplhz sheeped Palmar on his Grack case. He should find him town.
Therefore, he passively suggests to Nisani that Nisani should find Palmar more suspicious? Yeah no.

I thought it was really weird that Nisani201 thought that Palmar's case on Grackaroni was bullshit yet he didn't seem to think that Palmar was scum. Palmar is a guy who you can rely on having good reads for good reason but Nisani201 just dismissed the read without trying at all to put any pressure on Palmar and I found that weird so I poked him.


Why would you encourage pressure against a guy you should think is town?

Added to your general "lack-of-giving-a-shit" and multiple soft-pushes of players in the thread, u scum brah.
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